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Cool, no reason to drop a guy who can't keep a drive alive when it's critical, but smashes goals just like Kyle Wright and Kirby Freeman. :ohlord:
 
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Williams played better in those two games than Morris did. The thing that stood out was, he was quicker making decisions, he hit receivers sooner and in stride allowing them to make plays that havent been made since the USF game, and he actrually did display a decent arm on the deep ball which surprised me. His limitations are, he is a statue. Maybe his reads aren't as quick against better competition, who knows, but it seems like he sees the field much better than Morris.
 
I think he see's the field better than Morris, and he likes to spread the ball around and he finds Beau.
 
Ryan Williams should have his degree. He can leave to any D1 program after this year and play if he's not happy with his status at UM. That would leave the QB job to Crow, Olsen or Kaaya.
 
arizonacane said:
Ryan Williams should have his degree. He can leave to any D1 program after this year and play if he's not happy with his status at UM. That would leave the QB job to Crow, Olsen or Kaaya.
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Cool story bro... I mean we all know it's gonna be a 3way race next season for the starter spot
 
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Here's the whole deal with the Morris/Williams debate. Morris has 100 times the arm Williams does. When Morris is at his best, he is a much better QB for us. The problem is, he's been an inconsistent trainwreck this year. For whatever reason, his head has been a mess.

Williams doesnt offer you much in the way of "big play" ability, but he does seem like a more careful, consistent type QB. Kind of QB that Wake and UNC usually have. He can dink and dunk his way down the field, and probably run the offense efficiently, and minimize mistakes. I do think he can have some success here, with the talent we have, I can see him being a Dorsey TYPE QB. Not Dorsey necessarily, but a guy who can get the ball to his playmakers, and move the sticks, and put points on the board.

Granted we saw him in limited action, but I saw a kid who seemed to know the offense pretty well, seemed efficient with the ball, and looked like he was executing pretty well. I wouldnt sleep on the kid. I have no doubt that Olsen and Kaaya have more natural talent, but RW will be a Senior, who knows the system well, and can minimize mistakes. Im not sold on Golden throwing a Frosh QB into the fire unless he's really tearing it up and ready.
 
arizonacane said:
Ryan Williams should have his degree. He can leave to any D1 program after this year and play if he's not happy with his status at UM. That would leave the QB job to Crow, Olsen or Kaaya.
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no information, but betting Crow probably will be a transfer candidate.
 
Let's get a look at Williams. Morris should get whatever crap bowl game we get. The seniors have worked hard, put up with crap that was not their making and I have no problem with them getting the reward for that. But I thin it is important to get a look at the QB.
 
mlw352 said:
Can somebody please tell me what makes you think he's any better than morris because if were basing it off usf and savanna state may jesus help you the one year he did start at memphis they went 1-11 stephen hasn't been all world but I wish you guys would stop with the matt cassle syndrome
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Got another question: What makes you think on gameday Morris is any better than Williams.

Fact is, we know what Morris can do. Why in **** can't we find out what Williams can do? It's not like he's going to be erratic or anything and blow the game.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
mlw352 said:
Can somebody please tell me what makes you think he's any better than morris because if were basing it off usf and savanna state may jesus help you the one year he did start at memphis they went 1-11 stephen hasn't been all world but I wish you guys would stop with the matt cassle syndrome
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Got another question: What makes you think on gameday Morris is any better than Williams.

Fact is, we know what Morris can do. Why in **** can't we find out what Williams can do? It's not like he's going to be erratic or anything and blow the game.
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I'm afraid if we give him a chance he will staul drives with inconsistency and lack of pocket presence
 
3FW said:
I'm more convinced than ever that Olsen or Kayaa wil be the QB next year. I doubt Williams even has a shot at this point.
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What makes you think that? Williams has been more accurate than Morris on short and intermediate throws Nd in thinking his leadership can't be any worse.
 
Caneforlife, Nice post. I would of liked for Morris to heal for 3 or 4 weeks and play Ryan with two TE plus hagen at fullback and Duke at RB. Run the power game and use Hagens in short yardage situations and passing game. Williams has good knowledge of the offense and showed he likes to throw to Sandland in the spring. Run Duke use Hagens in short yardage and throw to the TEs and move the chains. No doubt about it he has better touch than Morris and i would bet the farm he has a better football IQ. He is 6'5 and his passes will not be tipped or knocked down as much as Morris. Last, I believe he will not force the ball into double coverage because he knows his arm limitations.
 
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I go back to the we want Stephen morris days instead of jacory be that as it may the ball did move nice but again against crap teams gray crow got into those games I mean come on guys morris hasn't been the best or most consist but he hasnt hindered us in our last two losses Williams to me is nothing to hope to see in a game he's a patchwork player if he's our starter I'm honestly afraid but I may be wrong
 
Im just ready to see Ryan Williams. I suspect he can be productive if coach Coley is willing to design plays that go to Williams' strengths.


As a True freshman at Memphis, Ryan Williams' numbers:


*165 /290
* 57% comp.
*13 TDs
*10 Ints
* 124.9 QB Rating


Those are decent numbers for a true freshman, especially considering how bad that team was. I just think its time to give him a start. @ Pitt would be good.
 
CANE4LIFE said:
Here's the whole deal with the Morris/Williams debate. Morris has 100 times the arm Williams does. When Morris is at his best, he is a much better QB for us. The problem is, he's been an inconsistent trainwreck this year. For whatever reason, his head has been a mess.

Williams doesnt offer you much in the way of "big play" ability, but he does seem like a more careful, consistent type QB. Kind of QB that Wake and UNC usually have. He can dink and dunk his way down the field, and probably run the offense efficiently, and minimize mistakes. I do think he can have some success here, with the talent we have, I can see him being a Dorsey TYPE QB. Not Dorsey necessarily, but a guy who can get the ball to his playmakers, and move the sticks, and put points on the board.

Granted we saw him in limited action, but I saw a kid who seemed to know the offense pretty well, seemed efficient with the ball, and looked like he was executing pretty well. I wouldnt sleep on the kid. I have no doubt that Olsen and Kaaya have more natural talent, but RW will be a Senior, who knows the system well, and can minimize mistakes. Im not sold on Golden throwing a Frosh QB into the fire unless he's really tearing it up and ready.
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I never thought we'd continually say this as Cane fans....but the goal next year is not to win the national championship. Therefore, even though Williams may possibly give us a slightly better chance to win (nothing will convince me that it is more than slight) it may not be the best move. Three different starters over the course of three seasons (4 out of 5) is no recipe for sustained success. It should be Olsen's job to lose unless Kaaya has some freakish ability, which is unlikely as a true freshman.

Starting Williams is the equivalent to another restart, with more Golden excuses, in 2015.
 
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Backup QB is always the most popular player on the team for fans, unless you have an elite QB.

2 different OC, one who is in the NFL now, have seen these guys every single day in practice. That NFL guy seems to know QBs pretty well considering his results when he was at Miami. Both have determined that Morris is clearly better then Williams. In fact both OCs have decided a 75% Morris is better then a 100% Williams. I'm pretty sure this "QB completion" was never very close and clearly isn't right now. It is what it is.

I'll edit this as well to say I don't think its a problem to question coaches, I just don't think benching Morris for Williams even comes up. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about that.
 
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That's ok for 1-11 I guess you can't pay me to believe he's deserving of seeing the feild he's a ok player but I feel like hes a trickett with winston (olsen) situation
 
For the morris apologists, peyton manning has a high ankle sprain on his plant foot, sprained ankle on the other ankle too and a sprained knee all at 37 (for the last 5 weeks). He is only on pace to set the yds passing record, TDs, and QB rating for a season. Blaming poor play on a bum ankle for a pocket passer is b.s. He needs to stop being golden and using excuses.
 
Morris is a cane...I will shake his hand thank him for his time...but he was never more than a back up QB at the end of the day..
 
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