Running Back: Tucker and Elder

[CandyCane]

Crawford has shown very little.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Clements is Clements. And that's all he's ever going to be. Kid has some moves, but no vision, as someone else already posted. Im also concerned about his health situation and wether he can endure the season. He also doesnt have the size we need for a between the tackles consistent "grinder". He's no Mike James, IMO.

He's actually better between the tackles than Mike James was. That's why he took the short yardage gig from him a couple years ago toward the end of the season.

Sorry I should have clarified that more. What I meant by the Mike James comparison was James durability as a grinder inside the tackles. Im well aware of James' perpetual underachieving here. Ive always thought EC had much better "game breaker" ability than James, the problem is he's not build like James and dont think he can grind it out for a whole season to spell Duke.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Lol this OP said nobody has shown to be real threats then brings up Walter Tucker as the solution lol hilarious

Eduardo Clements and Dallas Crawford are great 2nd and 3rd options at RB.... VT would be glad to have both as starters right about now. Eduardo even though he isnt a 210lb running back runs like a strong power back w/ some shiftiness to him. I think the RB position is fine especially when u throw Gus Edwards in the mix.

Al Golden said that WR depth concerns him which is a valid concern especially if we are going to run spread formations.... I think Corn Elder would be perfect for the slot wr position.

Walter Tucker best position on offense is FB.

The problem with Clements is he has no vision. A battering ram is really all he is good for but can his neck take the punishment. Crawford seems to go down from a slight breeze. Elder has the vision and shiftiness that we need but first came the trial at CB and now talk of moving him to the slot. Why not try him at his natural position? Hopefully we can rely on Gus to give Duke a blow.

I disagree with about everything you just said in regards to Eduardo and Clements....

Eduardo Clements has good enough vision, good balance, and attacks wholes hard. He's good enough to handle his role effectively.

Dallas Crawford has very good balance, shifty as **** and definitely doesnt go down w/ a "slight breeze"

Corn Elder may have more upside at RB then both of those 2 but he aint better then both of them right now at rb... he is too small and would need a redshirt just to gain weight. His natural position is on offense, he's not a natural rb, he's just a natural playmaker. He could excel at WR just like at RB imo. He can also be a very good cornerback... an all around great athlete.


Also Mo Hagens also brings a different dynamic to the rb position b/c he will get the ball this year..... and Gus Edwards is going to be a playmaker. UM doesnt need Corn Elder at RB at all especially after the next class comes in.

I noticed that you said good enough vision to handle his role, which is basically lower his head and get a yard or so. He has a tendency to seek out contact when he could have avoided it.

I totally agree with what you said about Crawford except he does go down easy. Admittedly, I haven't had the opportunity to see much of him this year so maybe that has changed with some strength & conditioning.

I never said Elder should be thrown into the fire. I agree that a redshirt is best for him but I seriously disagree with the comment that he's not a natural rb. You are also counting on a '14 class that hasn't inked yet. While I have even higher hopes for RB in that class, we all know things can change in a heartbeat.

corn isnt a short yardage back on his best day and crawford goes down with a "slight breeze" what give you the slightest clue that corn can break tackles on this level? not his highlight tape where he ran past dudes all day.

These are fair questions. Like I posted earlier, I see Corn as more of a scat back if he goes to RB. I dont think he's a consistent between the tackles runner. With his size right now, and his slight frame, I think CB is a better fit for him.

 

[supacane]

Calm down with this freaking out. If our OL is good as everyone said it should be, we can stick anyone back there and they'll make a way.

 

[fincane]

Crawford has shown very little.

3 total career carries would say he hasn't gotten the chance.

 

[zone3cane]

Crawford has shown very little.

3 total career carries would say he hasn't gotten the chance.

Exactly Crawford "has shown very little" what does that even mean?.... Nate Dortch has shown very little up to this point too. smh wow

This is Crawford's 1st year were he has a real shot at being the 2nd back on the roster.... how about we wait til the season is midway over before we come up w/ comments like that???

 

[Canething]

Good corners are always harder to find than good running backs.

 

[Hurrickaneof83]

Tucker should definitely play rb. That is his best position offense or defense. He will remind ppl of a faster Damien Berry. Great change of pace and crowd igniter.

 

[Gatorhater]

If Corn can become a star at corner our secondary would be even filthiest than it's going tone. That is if we get some safety depth

We always used to have big playmakers on defense. How many pick 6's have we seen the last 4or 5 years. If Corn can play cb, is would be sweet to have the threat of D scores back. Been WAY to long.

 

[rudebuddha]

Our best way to spelll Duke is to put Crawford or Clements back there, line up 3-4 wide with/without a tight end and and 10 yard slant it 7-8 times in a row and score.
Duke gets his rest whether we run with someone else or pass our way down to score.

 

[courcy75]

Tucker should definitely play rb. That is his best position offense or defense. He will remind ppl of a faster Damien Berry. Great change of pace and crowd igniter.

I've been saying a "Lonnie Pryor" type player since he signed.

 

[rudebuddha]

Tucker should definitely play rb. That is his best position offense or defense. He will remind ppl of a faster Damien Berry. Great change of pace and crowd igniter.

I've been saying a "Lonnie Pryor" type player since he signed.

Instead of a Seminole reference why not just say, an "Alonzo Highsmith" type, or a "Stevie McGuire" type. You could even say a "Mike James" type of player.
This is a Canes site. Just because our OC came over from the dark side doesn't mean we CAN'T reference Canes who were 10 times the player that nole shiithead ever was.

 

[courcy75]

Tucker should definitely play rb. That is his best position offense or defense. He will remind ppl of a faster Damien Berry. Great change of pace and crowd igniter.

I've been saying a "Lonnie Pryor" type player since he signed.

Instead of a Seminole reference why not just say, an "Alonzo Highsmith" type, or a "Stevie McGuire" type. You could even say a "Mike James" type of player.
This is a Canes site. Just because our OC came over from the dark side doesn't mean we CAN'T reference Canes who were 10 times the player that nole shiithead ever was.

Probably because I think he can have an impact similar to Pryor had his senior year. Or maybe it's because I'm not 40 years old and I used the first player that he reminded me of. OR maybe it was because I knew how much it would **** you off?

 

[rudebuddha]

Tucker should definitely play rb. That is his best position offense or defense. He will remind ppl of a faster Damien Berry. Great change of pace and crowd igniter.

I've been saying a "Lonnie Pryor" type player since he signed.

Instead of a Seminole reference why not just say, an "Alonzo Highsmith" type, or a "Stevie McGuire" type. You could even say a "Mike James" type of player.
This is a Canes site. Just because our OC came over from the dark side doesn't mean we CAN'T reference Canes who were 10 times the player that nole shiithead ever was.

Probably because I think he can have an impact similar to Pryor had his senior year. Or maybe it's because I'm not 40 years old and I used the first player that he reminded me of. OR maybe it was because I knew how much it would **** you off?

My bad. I forgot that most of the people on here aren't old enough to vote.
Doesn't **** me off at all. There's a huge difference between being angry and being disgusted.
When you are old enough to shave, pm me and I will give you some pearls.

 

[courcy75]

Tucker should definitely play rb. That is his best position offense or defense. He will remind ppl of a faster Damien Berry. Great change of pace and crowd igniter.

I've been saying a "Lonnie Pryor" type player since he signed.

Instead of a Seminole reference why not just say, an "Alonzo Highsmith" type, or a "Stevie McGuire" type. You could even say a "Mike James" type of player.
This is a Canes site. Just because our OC came over from the dark side doesn't mean we CAN'T reference Canes who were 10 times the player that nole shiithead ever was.

Probably because I think he can have an impact similar to Pryor had his senior year. Or maybe it's because I'm not 40 years old and I used the first player that he reminded me of. OR maybe it was because I knew how much it would **** you off?

My bad. I forgot that most of the people on here aren't old enough to vote.
Doesn't **** me off at all. There's a huge difference between being angry and being disgusted.
When you are old enough to shave, pm me and I will give you some pearls.

Lol lighten up Francis. I use the comparison because he could get carries and run the outside zone that fsu ran out of 2 back gun sets. The days of the battering ram fullback are slowly fading away. Those guys have to be threats to run and catch or you're handicapping yourself. I don't see him as a Najeh Davenport because Najeh was a much more natural back. Just my opinion.

 

[zone3cane]

Walter Tucker best position on offense is FB.

**** this guy gets it

 

[BlackKeysFan]

I think Elder will be a great CB. He should get a look on Special teams to give him some open field opportunities. Tucker, I think he is a FB. I like the LB idea but I'm not sure he's got the mind set to seek and destroy. that kind of size and speed you want the ball in his hands.