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Recruiting under Al Golden

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I’d take it as evaluating and doing the diamond in the rough thing. Versus big game hunting , selling the brand and living the grind recruiting life. He wanted a “ type” too. Rather than just looking for the best , most explosive athletes. He made it way more difficult like he was at say a Temple. Just watch the back in forth with him and Hurlie about the Reeder kid. At that point you’re overthinking this ****, it’s Miami.

I mean he didn’t want D Perryman for the longest , which anyone with a lick of sense knew he was a stud. Thank god for Burrow with that.

Al had a prototype he wanted versus just being a player and a dog on Saturday’s.
 
Udynasty said:
So I was listening to the Wide Right Podcast with Navarron and Bruce Feldman. Fledman was comparing previous coaches to Mario and he mentioned something along the lines of "Golden thought he was still at a mid major" when it came to recruiting.

@DMoney @Cribby @Coach Macho @gogeta4 @Liberty City El

does anyone know what he meant by that? What was Golden doing not doing?
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lots of 3-star slop.
 
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Koke said:
Saw this on Twitter about Manny's recruiting, he would tell kids if they didn't sign with Miami he would get fired lol.

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Koke said:
Saw this on Twitter about Manny's recruiting, he would tell kids if they didn't sign with Miami he would get fired lol.

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That’s funny that ivins said exactly what @Coach Macho said about manny not connecting well with the local coaches. Not surprising cause I think manny was really insecure and not confident in himself. It showed when he only trusted the veterans. Too scared to get help on the scheme also
 
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To some extent, I don’t blame his approach on 2011 and 2012. 2011 was a scramble just to get people in the class...we only had 2 committed when Shannon departed. 2012 came under the shadow of a potential NCAA death penalty.
 
He did a horrendous job in terms of scouting & not making offers to kids who were begging to come to Miami that would then go elsewhere & play great while we would be stuck with kids who had no business being here.

The amount of NFL players locally he missed on was astounding & he constantly recruited players that didn’t fit the system he ran so rather than adjusting the system he tried to force round pegs into square holes & completely wasted the talent of some of the actual good players he did manage to get here, particularly on Defense.

He was also an incredulous recruiter & God awful game-day coach.

The list of players he missed on is a football field’s length long & features names like Amari Cooper, Teddy Bridgewater, Ricardo Louis, Devonta Freeman, Matthew Thomas, Mackensie Alexander, Denver Kirkland, Eddie Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Sony Michel, Isiah McKenzie, Johnnie Dixon, Quinton Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Lamar Jackson, Antonio Callaway & a about a 100 or so others.

Basically, he had no clue wtf he was doing & couldn’t really recruit high caliber players unless they just really really loved Miami & wanted to be here, hence Duke Johnson, Chad Thomas, Mark Walton etc..
 
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Liberty City El said:
He did a horrendous job in terms of scouting & not making offers to kids who were begging to come to Miami that would then go elsewhere & play great while we would be stuck with kids who had no business being here.

The amount of NFL players locally he missed on was astounding & he constantly recruited players that didn’t fit the system he ran so rather than adjusting the system he tried to force round pegs into square wholes & completely wasted the talent of some of the actual good players he did manage to get here, particularly on Defense.

He was also an incredulous recruiter & God awful game-day coach.

The list of players he missed on his a football field’s length long & features names like Amari Cooper, Teddy Bridgewater, Ricardo Louis, Devonta Freeman, Matthew Thomas, Mackensie Alexander, Denver Kirkland, Eddie Jackson, Dalvin Cook, Sony Michel, Isiah McKenzie, Johnnie Dixon, Quinton Flowers, Calvin Ridley, Lamar Jackson, Antonio Callaway & a about a 100 or so others.

Basically, he had no clue wtf he was doing & couldn’t really recruit high caliber players unless they just really really loved Miami & wanted to be here, hence Duke Johnson, Chad Thomas, Mark Walton etc..
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I’ll never forget Luke literally bringing them Devonta Freeman.
 
Thats the sort of detail that I love. Too often we move on and never talk about what happened previously. I’d love to know just why Randy put people in his doghouse like Sam Shields, and seemingly never gave them a chance at redemption. Or why he destroyed relationships with HS coaches. Or the psychological stuff that Golden supposedly engaged in.
 
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The radio said his defense at one point was pretty much all NFL players. I think he recruited well after the fact.
 
305407cane said:
That’s funny that ivins said exactly what @Coach Macho said about manny not connecting well with the local coaches. Not surprising cause I think manny was really insecure and not confident in himself. It showed when he only trusted the veterans. Too scared to get help on the scheme also
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I tried to tell people over a year ago, but most didn't listen. I wish I could tell you more about his personality, but the couple times I saw him he never engaged me. One time he was standing 3 feet in front of me while I was with Rooster, and he looked right at my big a$$ and didn't say anything. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I guess he was waiting for me to drop to my knees and put his croqueta in my mouth, I don't know. But I'm standing with the 4-star RB you're recruiting, so if anything you need to be on my salsiccia. 🤌🏻

He was a weird dude and I truthfully think he had insecurity and/or ego problems.
 
Koke said:
Saw this on Twitter about Manny's recruiting, he would tell kids if they didn't sign with Miami he would get fired lol.

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But slurp……sorry, old habits….”fans of his” wanted this dude to stay? When he’s sanging Billboard’s Top 100 hit single “Baby Please Don’t Go, Imma Get Fired” to recruits?? FML; that’s what $8 milli pays for, huh?
 
Udynasty said:
So I was listening to the Wide Right Podcast with Navarron and Bruce Feldman. Fledman was comparing previous coaches to Mario and he mentioned something along the lines of "Golden thought he was still at a mid major" when it came to recruiting.

@DMoney @Cribby @Coach Macho @gogeta4 @Liberty City El

does anyone know what he meant by that? What was Golden doing not doing?
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Well when Al was named the new coach they went out and saved that top 3 class coming in ie Jacory Travis and Ramon. Then when spring ball starts the whole Shapiro ****e started up, so he was recruiting with one hand behind his back for the next couple of years. Some posters seem to forget that. He could of ****ed off but stayed.
 
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