Reclassifications: A Long Term Analysis

[lindend]

The general consensus on CIS is that kids that reclassify often either are busts or don't live up to the hype. However, not a lot of hard evidence. After seeing a post from @Ghandi , @Gi0logy suggested that we create a thread to track this long term and see if the CIS hypothesis can be verified. Please post names of kids that have reclassified and we'll add them to the OP. Also, let me know if we should add any additional data to the table.

It could be that the skill position players can reclassify and live up to expectations while the big uglies need the time to mature. We'll see.

Recruit	Position	Age	Rating before	Rating After	Class	Original Class	NLI	School	Portal entries	Portal School	Consensus
Raycine Guillory Jr	RB		4*		25	26
Jahkeem "Thanos" Stewart	DT		5*		25	26
Malachi Toney	WR	17	4*	TBD	25	26		Miami
Demetres Samuel Jr	CB		4*	4*	25	26		Gators
Armondo Blount	DT		5*	5*	24	25	Miami	Miami			Already getting PT his freshman year
Amaree Williams	DE		4*	?	24	25	FSU	FSU			UM likely would have made him a priority if he remained in the 25 class.
Ryan "Hollywood" Williams	WR		5*	?	24	25	Bama	Bama
Davon Mitchell	TE		5*	4*	24	25	Oklahoma	Oklahoma
Kevyn “Kerm” Humes	CB		4*		24
TJ Capers	DE/LB		5*	4*	23	24	Louisville	Louisville			Reclassified very late in the cycle (July) after an ACL. Much negativity on CIS about him being tweener
Austin Jackson	QB		4*	3*	23	25	Ole Miss	Ole Miss			Apparently old for his class and would've aged out. Had credits to graduate. Reclassified two years! Committed to the Gators then flipped to Ole Miss.
Antoine Jackson	CB		5*	4*	23	24	Miami	ECU			Very good FR year. 2024: in the portal
Desmond Ricks	CB		5*		23		Bama	Bama
Donnel Harris	DE		5*	4*	20		A&M	A&M			Disappointing career and medically retired. Was a lot older than HS competition and undersized for college.
Tony Grimes	CB		5*	4*	20	20	UNC	UNC	2	A&M	Contributed as a FR, started at UNC for a couple of years. Has not lived up to 5* potential. Many on CIS labeled him a bust. 2023: in the portal 2024: in the portal
Mark Walton	RB		4*	4*	15	15	Miami	Miami			Very productive college career. Some legal issues in college and serious legal woes after being drafted by the NFL.

 

[Tony4Canes]

That QB that went to Ole Miss

 

[TrumpyCane]

TrumpyCane believes 247 actually did an article on this a few weeks ago

 

[JamesQuall]

The general consensus on CIS is that kids that reclassify often either are busts or don't live up to the hype. However, not a lot of hard evidence. After seeing a post from @Ghandi , @Gi0logy suggested that we create a thread to track this long term and see if the CIS hypothesis can be verified. Please post names of kids that have reclassified and we'll add them to the OP. Also, let me know if we should add any additional data to the table.

It could be that the skill position players can reclassify and live up to expectations while the big uglies need the time to mature. We'll see.

Recruit	Position	Rating before	Rating After	Year	School	Consensus
Blount	DT	5*	5*	24	FSU (for now)
Ryan "Hollywood" Williams	WR	5*	?	24	Alabama
Antoine Jackson	CB	5*	4*	23	Miami
Donnel Harris	DE	5*	4*	21		Disappointing career.

I don't think Jackson ever attended Miami...

He's playing for ECU so that should be changed.

 

[hollyhood27]

Jt Daniels also

 

[TrumpyCane]

TrumpyCane believes 247 actually did an article on this a few weeks ago

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/is-college-football-recruiting-reclassification-good-or-bad-examining-a-growing-trend-inside-the-sport-218727526/amp/

 

[caneholic88]

I just remember that 5* DL 8&4 got out of GA few years back and he did nada and already portaled out

 

[lindend]

I don't think Jackson ever attended Miami...

He's playing for ECU so that should be changed.

Table updated. The fact that he flaked out and bailed before playing a down is probably something we should track. Sign of immaturity.

 

[canes732]

Purely opinion from me but depends on the position for reclass and I believe DL isn’t one to do it as especially speaking on Blount case. I wouldn’t really expect him to ply next year unless he’s in college for spring ball he really needs to develop his body more. And he doesn’t seem like the type to want to RS so no matter where he goes he may hit the portal next year and really ruin his development

 

[lindend]

I just remember that 5* DL 8&4 got out of GA few years back and he did nada and already portaled out

Overton, he's in the article @TrumpyCane posted.

 

[lindend]

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/is-college-football-recruiting-reclassification-good-or-bad-examining-a-growing-trend-inside-the-sport-218727526/amp/

How could I forget Walton reclassified?

 

[JHallCanes]

What’s the criteria to make this table?

That TE Mitchell that picked Oklahoma over us this summer reclassified I believe?

 

[Suhrthing]

The general consensus on CIS is that kids that reclassify often either are busts or don't live up to the hype. However, not a lot of hard evidence. After seeing a post from @Ghandi , @Gi0logy suggested that we create a thread to track this long term and see if the CIS hypothesis can be verified. Please post names of kids that have reclassified and we'll add them to the OP. Also, let me know if we should add any additional data to the table.

It could be that the skill position players can reclassify and live up to expectations while the big uglies need the time to mature. We'll see.

Recruit	Position	Rating before	Rating After	Year	NLI	School	Consensus
Blount	DT	5*	5*	24	FSU (for now)
Ryan "Hollywood" Williams	WR	5*	?	24	Alabama
Antoine Jackson	CB	5*	4*	23	Miami	ECU
Donnel Harris	DE	5*	4*	21	A&M	A&M	Disappointing career.

**** bro. You are the Rueben Bain of CIS recruiting... relentless.

 

[JamesQuall]

Table updated. The fact that he flaked out and bailed before playing a down is probably something we should track. Sign of immaturity.

I like the idea of keeping track of them though.

My opinion is that they probably "fail" (for a lack of a better word) at a notably higher clip than their peers that play their senior year and then go to college.

 

[moshated305]

A lot of names I've never heard of in that 247 article. Recruiting has always been a bit of crapshoot but reclassifying makes it even more so. Some of those kids just weren't ready and could have used that last year of HS. I would compare it to a player leaving early for draft and then not cutting it as a pro.

 

[lindend]

 

[lindend]

What’s the criteria to make this table?

That TE Mitchell that picked Oklahoma over us this summer reclassified I believe?

Mitchell added. I think he's going to be a monster.

I think I'm going to tweak the criteria and limit the list to players we recruited or at least offered.

 

[lindend]

OP updated.

1. Added Mitchell, Williams and Ricks.
2. Added column for portal school
3. Added links to discussion on each recruit.

 

[JHallCanes]

Mitchell added. I think he's going to be a monster.

I think I'm going to tweak the criteria and limit the list to players we recruited or at least offered.

Makes sense. Cool idea though for sure!

 

[DC3]

TJ Capers for Louisville. He’s a Miami HS kid that should have been in this years class but had the knee injury and enrolled a year early if I remember correctly.