Ray Ray Jersey change permanently?

[TheOriginalCane]

@TouchMoney26 I gotta be honest with you…you have a weird obsession with jerseys and their numbers that have zero impact on the sport itself.

And I love @TouchMoney26 , but he keeps trying to argue every time someone tries to explain the rule to him.

Same with @Calinative

 

[KANE]

tons of teams use other jerseys on special teams because of rules

This!

 

[canes732]

This issue certainly deserves its own thread. I mean, asking a star player to change numbers simply because a new guy’s parents have a useful metal as their last name is riveting.

Star?

 

[tdjones34]

Star?

at least we know uncle Luke's scream name now

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

And I love @TouchMoney26 , but he keeps trying to argue every time someone tries to explain the rule to him.

Same with @Calinative

It's been explained about a dozen times in at least a couple different threads over the last few weeks. Their extreme hate for the tearaway jersey is clouding their reason.

 

[Calinative]

Goddammit, for the millionth time, it is NOT about who is on the field at any given moment.

You are allowed to use the number for ONE offensive player and ONE defensive player. Punt return team is a DEFENSIVE unit on which an OFFENSIVE player (Ray Ray) was playing.

It's the rule. Can we possibly have people STOP trying to outsmart the NCAA rules?

There is nothing I have seen in the NCAA rules that specific numbers for the same UNIT.

The rule says 1. Two players PLAYING THE SAME POSITION may not wear the same number during the game 2. No two players on the same team may participate on the same down wearing identical numbers, and 3. Only two members of the team may be assigned and/or wear the same number.

If you have some other information that says what I just wrote is NOT the actual rule, please provide it.

 

[Calinative]

And I love @TouchMoney26 , but he keeps trying to argue every time someone tries to explain the rule to him.

Same with @Calinative

Provide the rule.

 

[Calinative]

It's been explained about a dozen times in at least a couple different threads over the last few weeks. Their extreme hate for the tearaway jersey is clouding their reason.

Ignore the blue hl, that wasn't me lol

Like I said in the other comment, The rule says 1. Two players PLAYING THE SAME POSITION may not wear the same number during the game 2. No two players on the same team may participate on the same down wearing identical numbers, and 3. Only two members of the team may be assigned and/or wear the same number.

 

[gatorsSUCK!]

He should change to #75. Mario says he is physical, has a strong hand punch, flexible hips that naturally sink when he drive blocks, and is super in pass pro.

 

[SPFRcane]

This issue certainly deserves its own thread. I mean, asking a star player to change numbers simply because a new guy’s parents have a useful metal as their last name is riveting.

Not a star...butvit would be unfair.

 

[Bender]

2. No two players on the same team may participate on the same down wearing identical numbers

Well, there's the explanation you wanted.

Nothing is more stupid than that penalty. It really isn't. They're just doing it to prevent themselves from that stupid penalty.

And I hate the size of that jersey as well, for the record.

 

[Hurracanes]

Ray Ray needs to hit the portal.

 

[Ironmanfootball]

at this point he just belongs in 35. it works out for everybody. Luke deserves his #5 and hand him the keys to start the season with young guns. LFG

The real solution is to find a real punt returner

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Well, there's the explanation you wanted.

Nothing is more stupid than that penalty. It really isn't. They're just doing it to prevent themselves from that stupid penalty.

And I hate the size of that jersey as well, for the record.

I'm going to go through this one last time, and I'm ignoring whiny, ****y Calinative, who is going to fight and **** until the end of time on one of the dumbest subjects known to man.

Bender, you may not be aware of this, being from Germany, so I grant you a reprieve.

The RULES OF FOOTBALL, regardless of the NFL or college differences, have ALWAYS prohibited the use of multiple numbers on the field at the same time. In the olden days, before the use of "names" on jerseys, and lots of different colors, you frequently saw "home white" jerseys and "away gray" jerseys. There wasn't a lot of differentiation, thus the RULES OF FOOTBALL (and many other sports) would specifically prohibit the use of the same jersey numbers at the same time, which was intended to prevent confusion.

What dip****s like Calinative fail to take into account is that there have been two sets of rules and guidelines in place since the beginning of the the sport. As people have overly focused on, there are absolutely rules of PARTICIPATION that state that you may not have two of the same jersey number on the field at the same time (and why the rule specifies "position", only God knows). There are also rules of jersey number assignment that exist separately. For instance, once college football decided to allow the use of jersey number 0, the rule of jersey number assignment was changed to allow jersey number 0, while "Calinative's favorite cut-and-paste" of the participation rules was not changed. And the policy for quite some time has been to issue separate (but identical) jersey numbers to an offensive player and a defensive player.

By way of explanation, this is not an issue in the NFL because of the 53-man roster limitation. But with schools like Nebraska, which has long prided itself on a walk-on system that often put nearly 150 players on their roster (but no longer allowed under the new 2025 rules), the issuance of double numbers to offense and defense allows for the use of up to 200 jerseys.

From a practical standpoint, then, you move on to how things work, administratively. If a defensive player is already on the field, and the punt returner comes into the game, then historically, by the rules of football (which most Americans not named "Calinative" understand to refer to both the enacted statutory rules and the unwritten rules, similar to what you see in baseball) you put a replacement jersey on the player who comes into the game for one play, which you would not have to do for a punt returner who is already a defender and already on the field.

Now, you can protest that these rules and practices are "stupid". But the reality is that it is administratively impossible for the coaches and the officials to do a statistical sampling process on EVERY PLAY to compare EVERY JERSEY NUMBER against every other jersey number. The stupidity of the "same position" language in the rule seemingly would "allow" a linebacker and defensive back to wear the same number, so long as they are not on the field at the same time, but this is also ridiculous. And yet nobody every attempts such a stupid concept, as it would be a situation that you would need to monitor for 80 or 100 plays a game, always checking to make sure you don't send your linebacker and defensive back onto the field at the same time. But that's a tangent.

Regardless of whether you think it's a stupid rule to prevent multiple versions of the same number on the field at the same time, those rules have been in place for as long as football. And from a practical standpoint, the rule would be impossible to administer if there weren't practical rules of administration.

And because we have a handful of ****y ***** who continue to complain about the very practical rules and guidelines of football that necessitate this discussion (not to mention the ongoing catering to the vanity of players who all want to wear certain jersey numbers), I took the following picture when I was down on the field at the Pop Tarts Bowl...

And you'll see the same exact thing on 133 other Division I-A sidelines...

 

[atlcane72]

for real! Just makes no sense.. little **** like that makes you wonder how it could be possible. No other team in the country does it. (Esp when we have clark not on the field at the same time)

Clark was definitely on punt return

 

[Bender]

I'm going to go through this one last time, and I'm ignoring whiny, ****y Calinative, who is going to fight and **** until the end of time on one of the dumbest subjects known to man.

Bender, you may not be aware of this, being from Germany, so I grant you a reprieve.

The RULES OF FOOTBALL, regardless of the NFL or college differences, have ALWAYS prohibited the use of multiple numbers on the field at the same time. In the olden days, before the use of "names" on jerseys, and lots of different colors, you frequently saw "home white" jerseys and "away gray" jerseys. There wasn't a lot of differentiation, thus the RULES OF FOOTBALL (and many other sports) would specifically prohibit the use of the same jersey numbers at the same time, which was intended to prevent confusion.

What dip****s like Calinative fail to take into account is that there have been two sets of rules and guidelines in place since the beginning of the the sport. As people have overly focused on, there are absolutely rules of PARTICIPATION that state that you may not have two of the same jersey number on the field at the same time (and why the rule specifies "position", only God knows). There are also rules of jersey number assignment that exist separately. For instance, once college football decided to allow the use of jersey number 0, the rule of jersey number assignment was changed to allow jersey number 0, while "Calinative's favorite cut-and-paste" of the participation rules was not changed. And the policy for quite some time has been to issue separate (but identical) jersey numbers to an offensive player and a defensive player.

By way of explanation, this is not an issue in the NFL because of the 53-man roster limitation. But with schools like Nebraska, which has long prided itself on a walk-on system that often put nearly 150 players on their roster (but no longer allowed under the new 2025 rules), the issuance of double numbers to offense and defense allows for the use of up to 200 jerseys.

From a practical standpoint, then, you move on to how things work, administratively. If a defensive player is already on the field, and the punt returner comes into the game, then historically, by the rules of football (which most Americans not named "Calinative" understand to refer to both the enacted statutory rules and the unwritten rules, similar to what you see in baseball) you put a replacement jersey on the player who comes into the game for one play, which you would not have to do for a punt returner who is already a defender and already on the field.

Now, you can protest that these rules and practices are "stupid". But the reality is that it is administratively impossible for the coaches and the officials to do a statistical sampling process on EVERY PLAY to compare EVERY JERSEY NUMBER against every other jersey number. The stupidity of the "same position" language in the rule seemingly would "allow" a linebacker and defensive back to wear the same number, so long as they are not on the field at the same time, but this is also ridiculous. And yet nobody every attempts such a stupid concept, as it would be a situation that you would need to monitor for 80 or 100 plays a game, always checking to make sure you don't send your linebacker and defensive back onto the field at the same time. But that's a tangent.

Regardless of whether you think it's a stupid rule to prevent multiple versions of the same number on the field at the same time, those rules have been in place for as long as football. And from a practical standpoint, the rule would be impossible to administer if there weren't practical rules of administration.

And because we have a handful of ****y ***** who continue to complain about the very practical rules and guidelines of football that necessitate this discussion (not to mention the ongoing catering to the vanity of players who all want to wear certain jersey numbers), I took the following picture when I was down on the field at the Pop Tarts Bowl...

And you'll see the same exact thing on 133 other Division I-A sidelines...


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Brother I know, I'm aware of all of this.

 

[Hurracanes]

Brother I know, I'm aware of all of this.

TOC just wrote all that and you already knew it? That’s wild!

 

[EudocimusAlbus]

We are dying for new info...can't believe a jersey thread will go to 10 pages min

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

This issue certainly deserves its own thread. I mean, asking a star player to change numbers simply because a new guy’s parents have a useful metal as their last name is riveting.

who is this star player you speak of ?

 

[Bender]

TOC just wrote all that and you already knew it? That’s wild!

I'm German, overly long, complicated texts that take forever to read are my bread and butter. I was born with the information that he gave me.