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You can't play scared. The mistake was believing those two tackles were starting caliber in the first place. I didn't follow spring or fall practices so I have no idea how anyone connected to the program actually believed it was a bright idea.

The right tackle was probably every bit as bad but I was so flabbergasted #60 was actually on the field I couldn't stop watching him. He's like one of those swimmers who gets frozen on the blocks every time with a reaction time 2 tenths worse than the norm. Except those guys don't make the nighttime finals.

I thought the offensive formations were excellent, other than the garbage plays designed to appease Martell. If you throw out those plays it was remarkable how much we looked like recent Alabama out there. I had an Alabama fan say the same thing today.
 
rokulika said:
Enos had 9 months to scheme for two 5th year senior DEs with a combined fiftyleven hundred sacks, and he delivered a paper bag filled with flaming **** to our doorsteps.

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Yep. I’m a fan. But there’s no reason he shouldn’t have gone much more 11, and 12, doubled, and chipped. Too stubborn. Must adjust to in-game conditions.
 
brock said:
The motions and shifts were working early on. It just feels like we went away from it a little bit due to the offense lining up to the ball late getting pre snap or delay of game penalties. Seemed like they stopped doing that after those kept piling up in addition to barely getting the ball off as the clock seemed like it kept running . We need to clean that up for sure in terms of getting the play and lining up so we can do the motions and shifts presnap.
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We got away from Brevin, too. And if Mallory is not a good fit in the double TE set, then run Irvin out there!
 
paksat said:
NOPE been there done that with whipple nix coley richt NOPE NOPE NOPE

When you see fans on a message board spotting things that uber simple and see no adjustment, something IS WRONG.

Things like:

well zion nelson has given up 6 sacks, better not try anyone else!
well zion nelson and campbell are having trouble blocking anything in front of them.. let's call some PLAY ACTION BABY!! Forget some dig routes, some RPO's, some... anything you'd see in a spread offense. NOPE

Where's the tempo at to get these guys confident and moving when you can't even break the **** HUDDLE WITH MORE THAN 7 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK?

I'm not giving up on enos yet but you guys should have your eyes checked if you're not a little bit concerned. That man enos got fcking DESTROYED in the 2nd half by grantham's defensive adjustments. We had THIRTY FOUR YARDS of total offense in the second half I read somewhere.

Even worse than enos is a guy i'm not seeing mentioned ANYWHERE and that's butch barry. Remember when searles had to luck into the correct starting line up? I'm thinking barry might be on that same plane of thought. This dude should have NEVER EVER had a TF as the starting LT. No reason none whatsoever that scaife shouldn't have been on one of the tackle spots.

Maybe after the 19th sack by both the tackles MAYBE you try moving some pieces around? Enos wasn't helping with the play calling whatsoever, you telling me irvin couldn't get out there and chip him?

He promised us jt4 would touch the ball a lot more, DIDN'T HAPPEN
How many reps did hightower and a lot of other wide outs even get?

Way way wayyy too many mistakes but go ahead board tell me i'm in full meltdown mode and everythings gonna be okay..
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Everything is going to be okay.

My biggest thing is how do we improve the rest of this year into next year. We are VERY young on offense.

Also, our OL played just fine during our first 10-15 plays, which were scripted. I would not be surprised if we simply haven’t installed most of the offense, so guys are generally confused. This leads to delays of game and wrong route running and protection schemes, which lead to more sacks.

Perhaps this is what you get when you play a big game one week early?
 
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DMoney said:
I noticed something while rewatching the game.

Every time that Franks made a successful throw to a WR, his TE (#84) stayed back to block. This was the case for both PI calls and the long pass to Hammond. Every other time, Franks either:

- got hit
- threw a quick pass to his backs
- rushed an incomplete
- threw an INT

This excludes the play where the officials blew a false start call and our DL stood around and watched him pitch and catch to Hammond.

The Gators knew they had OL issues and schemed accordingly. They were limited but did just enough to win.

Meanwhile, I only saw two plays where our TEs helped the OTs. In the first half, Brevin chipped the **** out of the RDE and allowed Jarren to step up in that direction and deliver a third and long dart to Jeff Thomas. The other time, in the fourth quarter, Brevin stayed back and allowed Jarren to hit Osborn for a first down. It’s surprising we didn’t see this more often.

Another way we could’ve helped our OTs was by running the ball. Both guys are more comfortable run blocking (watch Campbell on Deejay’s two Wildcat runs) and the team was running effectively. When you exclude Jarren, the team ran for 131 yards on 22 carries. They were really getting going late on the Cam run that got called back and another Cam run where Gaynor pancaked the DT. It seemed we were about to break through before pass protection and penalties put us behind the sticks.

I came away from the rewatch more encouraged with Zion than Campbell, although they were both terrible. Zion’s problem is that he is the last OL off the snap. That’s not a physical thing (he’s the twitchiest guy on the line) and it usually gets better with experience. Tyree St. Louis is an example of a guy who really struggled off the snap as a young player. But for the time being, it is a huge problem. I would give Scaife increased snaps during the bye week as an insurance policy for both guys.
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This won’t work if your QB is going to hold the ball and not willing to tuck the ball and run
 
DMoney said:
I noticed something while rewatching the game.

Every time that Franks made a successful throw to a WR, his TE (#84) stayed back to block. This was the case for both PI calls and the long pass to Hammond. Every other time, Franks either:

- got hit
- threw a quick pass to his backs
- rushed an incomplete
- threw an INT

This excludes the play where the officials blew a false start call and our DL stood around and watched him pitch and catch to Hammond.

The Gators knew they had OL issues and schemed accordingly. They were limited but did just enough to win.

Meanwhile, I only saw two plays where our TEs helped the OTs. In the first half, Brevin chipped the **** out of the RDE and allowed Jarren to step up in that direction and deliver a third and long dart to Jeff Thomas. The other time, in the fourth quarter, Brevin stayed back and allowed Jarren to hit Osborn for a first down. It’s surprising we didn’t see this more often.

Another way we could’ve helped our OTs was by running the ball. Both guys are more comfortable run blocking (watch Campbell on Deejay’s two Wildcat runs) and the team was running effectively. When you exclude Jarren, the team ran for 131 yards on 22 carries. They were really getting going late on the Cam run that got called back and another Cam run where Gaynor pancaked the DT. It seemed we were about to break through before pass protection and penalties put us behind the sticks.

I came away from the rewatch more encouraged with Zion than Campbell, although they were both terrible. Zion’s problem is that he is the last OL off the snap. That’s not a physical thing (he’s the twitchiest guy on the line) and it usually gets better with experience. Tyree St. Louis is an example of a guy who really struggled off the snap as a young player. But for the time being, it is a huge problem. I would give Scaife increased snaps during the bye week as an insurance policy for both guys.
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Why give the other guy if you saying it’s an experience thing, just give him the help!

we know what the moving players around has done for us.
 
Barry took over following what was probably the worst 3 years of OL recruiting/ developing in Cane history. This is a problem not fixable in 1 off season. I see calls for musical position changes. How has that worked last couple of years. Only answer for this season is give known weakness help.and that is on the OC to make appropriate game plan to help
 
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No question Enos got outschemed. Great design early on, but then the wheels came off. Florida knew their line was cheeks. We apparently did not
 
DMoney said:
I’m excited about Enos. Just pointing something out with the benefit of hindsight. He’s probably asking himself the same questions.
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I guess the question should be. Why didn't he ask himself that question during the game
 
Also the lack of rush attempts was mind boggling.

I thought the interior maulers did what they were supposed to do. In the run game and for the most part the pass game as well.

But ENOS interior run designs need help. I always liked the plays he called outside.
 
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Miami averaged 6.2 yards per carry outside of Williams sacks.

If Cams run was never called back we’d likely have been around 8 yards per carry.

Run the ball more. I said all offseason his group seemed like a better rushing OL than pass blocking. I think team getting 6.2 YPC shows that.

30 pass attempts to 21 rushing attempts. (Excluding Jarren sacks and “runs”) is only 51 plays. Miami needs to also pick our tempo up. Running 50 or even 60 plays would have us on the back end of the college football average. Need to get up to the 70+ offensive plays per game.
 
DMoney said:
I’m excited about Enos. Just pointing something out with the benefit of hindsight. He’s probably asking himself the same questions.
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If he is an elite OC, he shouldn't need hindsight to solve real time problems
 
motorcitycane said:
Miami averaged 6.2 yards per carry outside of Williams sacks.

If Cams run was never called back we’d likely have been around 8 yards per carry.

Run the ball more. I said all offseason his group seemed like a better rushing OL than pass blocking. I think team getting 6.2 YPC shows that.

30 pass attempts to 21 rushing attempts. (Excluding Jarren sacks and “runs”) is only 51 plays. Miami needs to also pick our tempo up. Running 50 or even 60 plays would have us on the back end of the college football average. Need to get up to the 70+ offensive plays per game.
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this is absurd, we only ran 51 plays????????????

where.the.fck.is.the.tempo.
 
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DMoney said:
I noticed something while rewatching the game.

Every time that Franks made a successful throw to a WR, his TE (#84) stayed back to block. This was the case for both PI calls and the long pass to Hammond. Every other time, Franks either:

- got hit
- threw a quick pass to his backs
- rushed an incomplete
- threw an INT

This excludes the play where the officials blew a false start call and our DL stood around and watched him pitch and catch to Hammond.

The Gators knew they had OL issues and schemed accordingly. They were limited but did just enough to win.

Meanwhile, I only saw two plays where our TEs helped the OTs. In the first half, Brevin chipped the **** out of the RDE and allowed Jarren to step up in that direction and deliver a third and long dart to Jeff Thomas. The other time, in the fourth quarter, Brevin stayed back and allowed Jarren to hit Osborn for a first down. It’s surprising we didn’t see this more often.

Another way we could’ve helped our OTs was by running the ball. Both guys are more comfortable run blocking (watch Campbell on Deejay’s two Wildcat runs) and the team was running effectively. When you exclude Jarren, the team ran for 131 yards on 22 carries. They were really getting going late on the Cam run that got called back and another Cam run where Gaynor pancaked the DT. It seemed we were about to break through before pass protection and penalties put us behind the sticks.

I came away from the rewatch more encouraged with Zion than Campbell, although they were both terrible. Zion’s problem is that he is the last OL off the snap. That’s not a physical thing (he’s the twitchiest guy on the line) and it usually gets better with experience. Tyree St. Louis is an example of a guy who really struggled off the snap as a young player. But for the time being, it is a huge problem. I would give Scaife increased snaps during the bye week as an insurance policy for both guys.
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The fact that we never did anything to help out the Takles is what irks me. Did Enos not anticipate this? Two freshmen tackles against a front seven that was solid last year?

It seemed like we had no answer. No max protect? No rollouts? Actually, there was one rollout and it seemed no body knew there assignment. I think it resulted in a sack and led to a punt out of the end zone.

This is what ****es me off the most. IMO, Enos overthought things and wasn’t ready for the simple things like what would happen if they just started teeing off on our QB when we had to pass.
 
paksat said:
Mark richt went tempo in his very first season very early on, so is richt better than enos?
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I was just pointing out how slow we were in getting the plays in. I have optimism for Enos but the pace was unacceptable
 
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