Proof of Randomness in College Baseball

[Jaromir Jagr]

Funny, though, a lot of other teams manage to beat a higher seed occasionally and they don't whine about the bracket. Not us.

And many of those things play higher seeds much more frequently than we do.

And how do you know this? You always do things like this. You must troll every message board on Earth looking for teams "whining" about the bracket.

You missed the part about beating those higher seeds. While you were whining about being sent to Gainesville for a Super Regional, South Carolina simply went on the road and beat their national seed opponent.

 

[Doppelganger]

You said Morris is a great post-season manager.

Fact.

And supported by the results.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

You missed the point, as expected.

No I didn't.

You've been making this same point forever.

Only beating higher seeds is an actual achievement. It's been one of the pillars of your argument.

Being one of the best teams in the country and getting a national seed is a detriment to "accomplishing" things according to Jagr.

There you go talking about 3 of the past 11 seasons. No mention of the other eight. Weird.

 

[Doppelganger]

Getting to Omaha as a national seed means you beat teams you were supposed to beat.

Morris is 7-for-7.

Can you find someone else who is his equal?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

You said Morris is a great post-season manager.

Fact.

And supported by the results.

As a career, yes. In the last 11 years, no. You got Greg Maddux starting this weekend? After all, he has great career numbers.

 

[Doppelganger]

Congratulations on doing what is expected.

Well, many teams find a way to occasionally lose as a national seed.

Does that argument sound familiar?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Getting to Omaha as a national seed means you beat teams you were supposed to beat.

Morris is 7-for-7.

Can you find someone else who is his equal?

In just those seasons? No I cannot. Can I find someone who is his equal in every season in the past decade? Absolutely.

 

[Doppelganger]

Half the time, though, and as you clearly ignored, Morris loses to lesser teams in the post-season.

Not true.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Congratulations on doing what is expected.

Well, many teams find a way to occasionally lose as a national seed.

Does that argument sound familiar?

Of course they do. And? We have won our home games as a national seed. Congrats, Jim. Any thoughts on why the great post-season manager loses so often to lesser seeds?

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Half the time, though, and as you clearly ignored, Morris loses to lesser teams in the post-season.

Not true.

I just showed it.

But 2001.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

Just this morning we've had tuition, 2001, and geography excuses. Rinse, repeat.

 

[Doppelganger]

One off sample size. Embarrassing.

Now you're showing that you don't understand sample sizes.

The 2010 team was only seeded once and therefore a critique of that seeding is representative.

I've also critiqued the seeding in other single seasons (like 2008).

 

[Doppelganger]

Very small sample sizes.

Again, ignorance.

 

[Doppelganger]

Morris misses the post-season: "one-off sample sizes mean nothing"
Morris gets sent to Gainesville: "he gets screwed by geography"

Those are not mutually exclusive.

I said he got screwed by geography.

Words matter.

 

[Doppelganger]

While you were whining about being sent to Gainesville for a Super Regional, South Carolina simply went on the road and beat their national seed opponent.

Two 1-run wins against a lower national seed in Coastal Carolina.

Miami would've had a better chance of advancing if matched with Coastal Carolina.

And 1 single game gave Georgia Tech a significant advantage over Miami.

 

[Doppelganger]

There you go talking about 3 of the past 11 seasons. No mention of the other eight. Weird.

3 of 10 actually.

So other 7 in fact.

And we've been discussing some of those other seasons in this very thread (2010, 2011, etc)

Try to keep up.

 

[Doppelganger]

As a career, yes. In the last 11 years, no.

So what's your issue?

Why do you keep saying that he's not a great postseason coach?

You need to be more specific with your words.

 

[Doppelganger]

As a career, yes. In the last 11 years, no. You got Greg Maddux starting this weekend? After all, he has great career numbers.

67 years old for a manager is not equivalent to 51 years old for a pitcher.

 

[Doppelganger]

In just those seasons? No I cannot. Can I find someone who is his equal in every season in the past decade? Absolutely.

So you're saying that you can find another manager who is 7-for-7 in getting national seeds to Omaha?

Do it then.

I'll give you a head start.

It's not Kevin O'Sullivan, Brian O'Connor or Dan McDonnell.

 

[Doppelganger]

Of course they do. And?

With all the advantages (best team, homefield, favorable seeding) those teams find ways to not advance.

That's a significantly greater failure than not beating higher seeds.

It's a greater indictment of a coach, by far.