Predictions for surprise camp upsets?

LULZ at dudes predicting Moten will walk in and start. If that happens, we are in a WORLD of hurt.

Yep. That will be an awful sign as to the lack of development of the upperclassmen by Uncle Jeffro and the staff in general.

I've already written off Jelani, but if Moten steps in there and jumps over Pierre (who's not a bad player actually) and Kamalu that is not good.

Moten and Jenkins need to redshirt.

You know a year or two down the line, a front consisting of Jenkins at NT and Moten and Thomas at End will be NASTY. That will be a huge ***** to run against.
 
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I think Dobard takes Sandlands spot at 2nd String TE behind Walford of course

it would be nice if they could redshirt Sand and let him and dobberman come back as one/two. Maybe jake could be that third guy the next two years. allowing the young guy from this year and next to grow
 
I really don't see many starting position open. You have a battle for the QB, and you a battle for SLB, and that it. I think Mccord will be switch over, and he will battle Armbrister. I think Owens will back both of them up. I think Moten and Jenkins will redshirt. The starters are Wyche and Pierre. The backups are Moore and Huertelou. The third stringers are King and Hamilton. If Moten and Jenkins don't crack the top 4 in the rotation, why even play them?

I think if Trayone Gray gets in, then Gus Edwards will practice both at RB and FB. TBH, I don't really see many freshmen playing. Outside of McDermott, Yearby, Young, Owens, Darling and Thomas, I can't think of many others being needed.
 
Possible camp upsets?

Herb Waters starter opposite Coley over Dorsett.

Malcolm starting slot.

Dobard becoming the #1 TE.

Chad Thomas becomes a starter for opening game.

Jelani Hamilton realizes his potential.

Anthony Moten opening game starter.

Darrion Owens a starter for game one.

Artie or Corn unseat Gunter from his starting spot.

Rayshawn takes back his spot.



*Not saying any of these will happen, but that some could be stories that come up, possibilities.*

I like malcolm, chad, herb, and dobard. I think we have better than jenkins
 
Would be crazy if Grace or Owens end up starting at one of the OLB spots.

I think Crawford and Bush end up starting at safety.

I expect KC McDermott to win the RT job.
 
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I don't think there will be camp upsets. Golden is methodical and predictable - seniors will play first, but everyone, well almost everyone, will play and play a lot.

I think Walter Tucker will get some burn and takes some snaps away from Gus Bus, especially if he picks up where he left off in the Spring. I thought he was our most physical running back in the Spring game. He is listed as 6'0" 218 pounds on our website, and he has good top end speed. Gus on the other hand needs to get his pad level down and start running on a tight wire. Admittedly, I thought Gus Bus looked better in the Spring game than he did last season, which is a good sign. Duke, Joe, Gus/Tuck assuming Joe is good to go.
 
I don't think there will be camp upsets. Golden is methodical and predictable - seniors will play first, but everyone, well almost everyone, will play and play a lot.

I think Walter Tucker will get some burn and takes some snaps away from Gus Bus, especially if he picks up where he left off in the Spring. I thought he was our most physical running back in the Spring game. He is listed as 6'0" 218 pounds on our website, and he has good top end speed. Gus on the other hand needs to get his pad level down and start running on a tight wire. Admittedly, I thought Gus Bus looked better in the Spring game than he did last season, which is a good sign. Duke, Joe, Gus/Tuck assuming Joe is good to go.

How is he predictable, our starting Wr last year was stacy coley. maybe on defense it's tougher to have younger guys start without serious issues. We don't need to have freshmen start for us, if the kids perform like most of us expect. With that, there's always one or two that come in a play good minutes. That's what we need.
 
Berrios will play if healthy. He is a first down making machine. Braxton is the quickest player on this team and has the best hands also, cannot be covered one on one period.
 
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My bold prediction is that Darrion Owens starts at Sam. Doubt it happens, though.

No shot unless there are a ton of injuries.

I wouldn't say he has no shot. I have my doubts too, but what's to say that a true freshman can't start at Sam? It's not as mentally challenging as Mike or Will. Not even close.

If Figs was healthy last year he might have started almost every game as a true freshman. Was Figs an EE? My memory says no, but I might be wrong. From all accounts, Owens impressed this spring. I'm concerned that Owens' body is not as developed as Figs' was at the same stage.

Owens was my favorite defensive signee. Maybe I'm biased. Lol.
It's not the true freshmans thing that concerns me with Owens. It's his football instinct. He reminds me a little bit of a guy like Ramon Buchanon. Great athlete but not a great football player yet. He's going to take a while to develop.
 
Pre injury I would have thought the same thing. Missing the Spring is a setback.
 
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I have a few things I could see shaking out in camp. I think Heaps wins the qb battle. I think the depth chart will lose a fb and show three wr with Lewis starting in the slot backed up by Berrios. I think the Odogwu comes out and takes the RT job.

Defensively, I see OP starting with Huertelou at DT. I think Grace will come up and grab an OLB spot from TA. The rest will go as scheduled with seniors getting the nods, or the studs that have already asserted themselves.
 
My bold prediction is that Darrion Owens starts at Sam. Doubt it happens, though.

No shot unless there are a ton of injuries.

I wouldn't say he has no shot. I have my doubts too, but what's to say that a true freshman can't start at Sam? It's not as mentally challenging as Mike or Will. Not even close.

If Figs was healthy last year he might have started almost every game as a true freshman. Was Figs an EE? My memory says no, but I might be wrong. From all accounts, Owens impressed this spring. I'm concerned that Owens' body is not as developed as Figs' was at the same stage.

Owens was my favorite defensive signee. Maybe I'm biased. Lol.
It's not the true freshmans thing that concerns me with Owens. It's his football instinct. He reminds me a little bit of a guy like Ramon Buchanon. Great athlete but not a great football player yet. He's going to take a while to develop.

I'm not seeing what you're seeing. How much have you seen of him? Watch his highlight tape again (http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1368104/highlights/61259379). A few things scream that he's a football player. He plays extremely diverse positions, including special teams. Most of the time he's playing an OLB/SS role to the field and he does many things well within that role. He's an excellent pass rusher, as he possesses that natural lean that is very hard to coach. See :38 of the tape. At :05 and :24, he does a great job at knifing in on a tight isolation run to his side. At 1:15, he shows that he's able to read the blocking in front of him and spill the lead blocker coming to him on an off-tackle play.

At times he's playing from a deep safety alignment! At 1:05 and 2:39 he makes a flat foot run read, presses, and fills as needed--just as a safety playing quarters coverage should. Look at him use his hands at 1:18! Many times he's playing from a stacked linebacker alignment, much like our Will. He makes a ton of ridic plays on special teams too.

It's hard for me to believe that a player with concerning football instincts can succeed in very diverse roles. In my experience, we needed to limit those kids that were not quite football players yet. The needed to play a very simple role, or their mind would be blown. We had a kid that had all the gifts to play inside linebacker, but he needed to play end. We taught him his 5 tech, and just let him play. He would blow assignments or look lost if he had to do anything different. Special teams was out of the question!

One of the most telling signs of great football instincts is if the kid can succeed at multiple positions, including special teams. Owens has clearly shown that. Also, he has **** good technique. Either he has had the best coaches in america, or this kid is a baller at heart.
 
My bold prediction is that Darrion Owens starts at Sam. Doubt it happens, though.

No shot unless there are a ton of injuries.

I wouldn't say he has no shot. I have my doubts too, but what's to say that a true freshman can't start at Sam? It's not as mentally challenging as Mike or Will. Not even close.

If Figs was healthy last year he might have started almost every game as a true freshman. Was Figs an EE? My memory says no, but I might be wrong. From all accounts, Owens impressed this spring. I'm concerned that Owens' body is not as developed as Figs' was at the same stage.

Owens was my favorite defensive signee. Maybe I'm biased. Lol.
It's not the true freshmans thing that concerns me with Owens. It's his football instinct. He reminds me a little bit of a guy like Ramon Buchanon. Great athlete but not a great football player yet. He's going to take a while to develop.

I'm not seeing what you're seeing. How much have you seen of him? Watch his highlight tape again (http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1368104/highlights/61259379). A few things scream that he's a football player. He plays extremely diverse positions, including special teams. Most of the time he's playing an OLB/SS role to the field and he does many things well within that role. He's an excellent pass rusher, as he possesses that natural lean that is very hard to coach. See :38 of the tape. At :05 and :24, he does a great job at knifing in on a tight isolation run to his side. At 1:15, he shows that he's able to read the blocking in front of him and spill the lead blocker coming to him on an off-tackle play.

At times he's playing from a deep safety alignment! At 1:05 and 2:39 he makes a flat foot run read, presses, and fills as needed--just as a safety playing quarters coverage should. Look at him use his hands at 1:18! Many times he's playing from a stacked linebacker alignment, much like our Will. He makes a ton of ridic plays on special teams too.

It's hard for me to believe that a player with concerning football instincts can succeed in very diverse roles. In my experience, we needed to limit those kids that were not quite football players yet. The needed to play a very simple role, or their mind would be blown. We had a kid that had all the gifts to play inside linebacker, but he needed to play end. We taught him his 5 tech, and just let him play. He would blow assignments or look lost if he had to do anything different. Special teams was out of the question!

One of the most telling signs of great football instincts is if the kid can succeed at multiple positions, including special teams. Owens has clearly shown that. Also, he has **** good technique. Either he has had the best coaches in america, or this kid is a baller at heart.

Nice post, West. I just caution against using highlight tapes because it's a small compilation of the guy's best plays. It doesn't show you what he was doing the other 98% of the time.

I just don't see the type of production I'd like to see from a guy with his obvious physical advantages. He was much more talented than almost everyone he lined up against, yet he didn't make a lot of football plays. I think he has the potential to be an excellent player here, but he's not a guy I'd expect much from right away other than, perhaps, on special teams.
 
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I'm with WestEndZone on Owens. Based on Figs' expulsion and what Owens did in spring, I can see him taking the job.

Coming in, I thought he would be a ST demon but work-in-progress at LB. He had played safety before and wasn't a consistent tackler. But then I saw him make play after play in spring. He was the best defensive player in the scrimmage I attended.

The biggest thing he has going for him is his work ethic and focus. Those guys tend to improve quickly and play early.
 
I'm with WestEndZone on Owens. Based on Figs' expulsion and what Owens did in spring, I can see him taking the job.

Coming in, I thought he would be a ST demon but work-in-progress at LB. He had played safety before and wasn't a consistent tackler. But then I saw him make play after play in spring. He was the best defensive player in the scrimmage I attended.

The biggest thing he has going for him is his work ethic and focus. Those guys tend to improve quickly and play early.

I think Owens starts 3-4 games this year. I've been saying this kid was special when others were on the fence due to high school production his senior year (around 60 tackles). He was our second best defensive recruit behind Chad Thomas imo. Definitely don't think he will unseat Thurston by game 1. The sky is the limit with Owens. He hasn't even turned 18 yet
 
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Moten won't start but I won't be surprised if he and C. Thomas are playing ahead of Hamilton and King a month from now.
 
DMoney, wouldn't his current weight prohibit him from starting?

You can't have a 220 pound Sam.....not even in the 4-3 you couldn't. That's way too small. He'll be taking on a lot of blocks in that role.
 
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