Of your top 8 OL from last season, 4 (and very arguably the top 4) are not returning. Yet, you have no problem citing last year's OL results as a point of reference in comparing to Miami's OL (which has the top 6 OL returning).
You have 2 transfers coming in on OL, neither of which were All-Conference players (Tyler Moore was freshman all big ten - many conferences don't even have freshmen all conference teams - especially meaningless at OL), yet you touted them as such.
Mack Brown is a career backup that has 40 carries for 167 yards (4.1 ypc) and ZERO TDs. Mack Brown did not split carries with Gillislie last season. BUT, you try to make it seem like they are equals and that Gillislie only was the workhorse last season because Mack Brown got hurt at some point. It's likely fair to say that Gillislie really got his shot because Brown got hurt, but what about when Brown was better? Why wasn't it a 2-headed attack? Because Gillislie's carries while tired at the end of a game were still valued higher than Brown's.
I'm positive there are many others, but I don't want to waste my time going through your posts. It was obnoxious enough reading them once.
point by point:
1. everyone else has used last year as a point of reference for uf's oline, now i do the same and it's an issue? or is the issue that you don't like the facts being presented that disproves the perceptions of both units? the point was to compare results to dismiss the perception that uf's o-line is trash and miami's is all-world. if you feel miami returning their top 6 guys who didn't perform well as opposed to 4 for uf who did perform well against the better teams i can't help you. btw not counting garcia and moore uf returned 6 of their top 8 last year. 2 will not be playing so that leaves 4 of 5 on the o-line...not counting moore or garcia so that is innacurate. and once again i have not spoken on what they will or won't do this year, i haven't hyped them as some great unit simply talking about the experience returning.
2. this is just factually wrong. you cited moore was freshman all big-10...well that's being an all-conference member nothing there to be argued. garcia started 13 games at left tackle for maryland in 11'...again all facts.
3. clearly you missed the point. gilislee was also a career backup before last year. and the guy you're downing (brown) was ahead of gilislee on the depth chart before brown missed time with injuries in the preseason. so i don't see the issue in saying they were at least equal in ability considering brown was slated to start ahead of gilislee. bottom line is gilislee got his shot because brown was injured and took it and ran with it stop pretending like gilislee was some ultra stud back and nobody was close to him. and to answer your question, once brown came back he got injured again and missed another 4 games, he was never healthy during the season. by that point jones had come on and the rest is history. point being there is a lot of revisionist history going on with gilislee.
The "issue of Gilislee" is not what he was before he became the #1. It's what he did on the field. You're minimizing his production with an amalgamated "well if Brown>Gilislee, but Gil got to jump over him due to injury, than Brown's production>Gilislee's production." The reality is that if there was reason for your staff to believe Gil was capable of the season he had last year, he would've had the edge over Brown, just like Jones does now. Brown isn't better because of Gil, or Jones. Or is every unproven back on Florida's depth chart a 1,000 yard rusher? You're lowering the recently-historic accomplishment of Gil to one of faceless happenstance. It would be like Miami fans saying "well Tommy Streeter hadn't done anything before 2011; his good year was a surprise, so any jack on the roster should be able to replicate his production for 2012." Or "Hey Morris was a JAG until 2012, so when he leaves Olsen should easily throw for 4000 a year." It's not transitive just because you want it to be.
Did you or did you not lose productive, starting offensive lineman? How many? Do you or do you not have capable backups, and do you anticipate any drop off or learning curve? It sounds like losing starters--once again--is no big deal for an offense that struggled often last year. If Miami lost our 1,000 yard rusher and multiple OL, you would be rightly assigning question marks to their offensive production.
The numbers you used for Miami's rushing inadequacy is flawed. Stats do not tell the story of those games, which was Miami's inability to score or stay off the field on D. There was no chance to develop the run against ND or KSU, and Johnson had sand toe for FSU. It's not bad to use what's on paper; it's bad to ignore what isn't.
regarding gilislee, i am not arguing brown's production will >>>>> gilislee's, that's not the point i am making. in fact, i will say right now that i don't believe any of our rushers will have as many yards as he did last year. i do however feel we will rush for more as a group. the point i was trying to make is that there isn't some huge gap in talent between gilislee and the other backs like some are insinuating. if that was the case gilislee would have never been listed as a backup, that was my point in bringing up where he was on the depth chart prior to the season, not to downplay his accomplishments.
and yes, we did. we lost 2 to graduation and now 2 to injury. even with that uf returns 4 guys who have started games, not including moore or garcia. again...i am not saying this unit will be great or that we won't miss any of the guys, i am simply talking about how much experience is returning. regarding the learning curve, i would say yes for moore and garcia, my only hope there is that since those guys were at uf all of last year and participated in the spring that will be minimized some.
i just feel people are going a bit overboard on what uf lost upfront. wilson and nixon were both undrafted, neither were studs and were on again off again starters the whole year. nixon led uf in penalties last year and sacks given up, i'm not seeing how losing him is such a big deal. he was so good last year that a 260 lb. freshman in humphries started multiple games over him.
lastly, fair enough. those numbers were not to give an opinion on what i think miami's o-line will be this year, just the inconsistency in thought concerning the two units. any way you slice it they did not perform that well against good defenses. we will see in 2 weeks if either unit has changed from last year.
