Post Game Recap: UNC

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Obviously not every starter is viewed as a star by fans. Stars get discussed more, and When stars don't perform up to expectation, they get trashed more, and no position gets trashed/praised as much as QB no matter what.

Jaden Davis doesn't have speed to cover anyone deep. We all know that. So when he gets cooked deep and we all see Kam/JW doing jack **** to ever help our CBs past 15 yards downfield, I think it's reasonable to be a little more ****ed at the guys that are supposed to be "the guys". Personally I'd be starting the Brown brothers and any other young guy that is going to step up. but Devante has played sparingly early on and drew PI on like literally every ball thrown his way. Porter has been fine. Nothing too bad or good. I think he's fine as one outside CB. Couch has been meh. Personally I rather have Davis playing Couchs role and have literally anyone else at outside CB, but I'm also not saying Addae is doing a good job... so
Idk if everybody knows that, I certainly can recall a number of people who pushed back against this sentiment when he was being brought in back in the Spring & earlier in the season.

But nonetheless, a lot of players get discussed on here for various reasons, whether he’s a star or not doesn’t preclude him from being singled out for his bad play that has mostly gone unnoticed until tonight & even so still isn’t really being examined in mass by the board on the same scale as others.

He’s been getting worked for most of the season, but people have just given him a pass because of the TAMU game, but looking at the entirety of his College careers thus far, this is exactly who he’s been since he was at Oklahoma.

Hence why the take was questionable to begin with.
 
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We’re a 6-6 team. If we get every bounce to go our way, and the referees don’t ***** is too badly for the rest of the season, we might get to 7-5. Mario screwed us out of an 8th win with his historically bad corching last week.

Tonight, when we were behind early in the 2nd half, our offense went into hibernation.

Fold the program and enjoy the 2 decades that we had of dominance. The BoT and Admin totally destroyed a once proud and historically great program.

Don’t wanna hear anymore excuses from any of the usual slurpers.

Not getting that W against Ga Tech f'd us. We should be 5-1 right now but if we go 4-3 with the 2nd half of the season to go......its another **** 7-5 season
 
I understand and agree with the phenomenon you’re describing… but I think it runs deeper in MC’s case that he just doesn’t have the knowledge/understanding of the game as a whole to be able to really understand what is important.

Re: Lanning I wonder what the analytics say. I think Lombardi would be influenced by that. But I think Lanning understood what he was doing and made a knowing and strategic choice. May not have been the right one, but I don’t think it was “coaching malpractice squared.”
RE: Lanning. I thought the first pair of fourth and short tries in the first half were ballsy moves in a big game. I would’ve kicked at the end of the first half. Three points would’ve been nice given Washington was getting the ball first in the second half. I thought the midfield gamble with two minutes left was foolish, especially after Washington blew up the prior 3rd down play. Punting could’ve made Washington need to drive 80 or more yards, instead of 50. Maybe Lanning thought he couldn’t stop Washington, and he might gave him himself some time in case UW did score quick. Which almost worked if his kicker didn’t whiff a 43 yard FG.
 
Well, I can put into words now... First and foremost, we´re not a bad football team. We are talented, but we still have a mixture of lack of talent, bad situational awareness and simply want it too much sometimes. We´re decent, we just are not there yet.

1. CBs need to be a focus in the portal. I dont understand why Porter Jr. didnt cover Walker, as it became evident that Davis cannot do it. Davis had his best game vs the Aggies playing inside in the box as a nickel and we trot him out wide. We do not seem to be comfortable playing either Brown (unless he has an injury, ******* play him) or Richard (Greentree All-American at this point). We need the young talent, sure, but if there is someone who wants to take the final step towards the NFL, throw the kitchen sink at him.

2. We just about made every mistake from a players perspective and at some point, it will catch up. Ironically it was not just the expected ones (Keontra Smith), Matt Lee had bad snaps throughout the whole game, Henry Parrish fumbled in the endzone and TVD had a pick where he simply wanted it too much. Third quarter, after UNCs TD and our fumble, we played tight on offense, essentially repeating the mistakes Mack Brown mentioned at halftime with his team (which was also true). The ironic thing is, we had UNC on the heels, that defense was nowhere to be found. The roster will continue to have players being shuffled out and replaced with new ones and it will happen next year.

3. I have read tons of things in regards to the inability of the TE being included. There are two reasons as to why this happens, 1. Riley Williams is the only legit receiving option that we have here and he is a freshman who simply is not there yet (shocker, very few Freshman TE are) and 2. TVD is playing in a progression read system whilst not making the reads. This is who he is and that wont change, hence why I believe he wont declare for the NFL. However, some of the comments on here regarding his play are downright shocking. The TD pass to George at the end of the second quarter is the best throw I will see from a QB this week, if not this month. I am not sure if any of you are ready to believe that he is the best option we have, but some in here expose their brutal lack of knowledge about offensive football with the comments they have made yesterday.

4. I am not sure why Dawson has scaled down on the diversity of the run game. I dont see the pulling guards, I dont see McCoy being out there, I dont see split zone anymore. Not sure whats happening here, but we had some tremendous success running the ball with moving either TE or OL and that has gone away completely. Might wanna come back to that.



Overall, as I said, this is not a bad team. I get the frustration at this point and it sucks even more given that we beat ourselves yesterday, however, I dont get people going "the season is over", "Cristobal sucks, we need to fire him", "TVD needs to be benched"... like, after 4-0, this fanbase pretended to have the biggest balls in America and two losses were enough to have a mass castration event happening. This team is still in a transitioning period, from a talent perspective, we are not there yet and coaching wise, one change absolutely has to be made (and probably will, I do not see Addae being retained @Memnon after all of the smoke from last year and the Raymond talk the year prior). If the players had the same attitude that a lot of this fanbase would have after a loss, we would quit one loss into the season and just collapse every time some adversity hits.

It is Clemson next week and we either have a loyal fanbase supporting the troops or we have the same sissys that we always have. Its up to you.
 
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Simply put, The Zebras were extremely pro-Miami tonight, yet we created our own self inflictions.

Part of the problem I’ve now seen for the past several seasons is this false sense of where we r as a program after we beat the likes of BCU, Temple, Central Connecticut, So Miss, Savannah St, UAB, etc. The other issue is when we have beaten a P5 team early, it’s been fool’s gold as that team wasn’t as good as their ranking appeared (I’m looking at the 2013 UF Gators & 2023 8&4 Aggies).

Come October-November we get to really see the mantle of this team. Do you know y I kept harping on the excuse makers for the GT debacle? It’s b/c we had no business being in that position; I’m not talking about the kneeling, I’m talking about being that close to them. UNC was absolutely bludgeoned w/ penalties tonight, yet they had a 3 score lead on us deep in the 4th. ****, if they didn’t have big play after big play called back, the score would’ve been far worst.

Good, well coached teams can overcome officiating when they are the better team. We continue to self inflict our own wounds, and it’s frustrating. Every year, sans 2017, we have unbelievable off season hype, & every year we see the same chit, some is packaged better than other yrs, but it’s the same chit.

We’ll see how the rest of this season plays, but now that more game film is out…we’ll just see
 
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Just read the intro and last paragraph.

I’m sure it was good work but I just can’t stomach reading in game analysis of this abortion yet.

The wheels have come off the Mario train and it’s completely derailed, crashes and is on fire.

I don’t need to see the game next week to know the team has packed it in. I not only think they will lose next week, I think they’ll lose big.

Team is completely deflated after the “no knee” fiasco last week, and the 5th straight drubbing by NC didn’t help.

They had been playing pretty good the first 4 games and building confidence, ran into a road block but could have won, sans their coach ******* up so spectacularly he made national news.

Think everyone needs to reset their expectations of this team and Mario. We’re looking at 6-6, hopefully 7-5.

10-2., 9-3 or 8-4 is unrealistic and not happening. I willing to bet Clemson not only covering but beating the brakes off of Miami next week.
Don’t believe me, watch the TVD at the post game presser from tonight. Season is sunk.
 
I’m not speaking about OP but one thing I’ve observed here over the years is the toxic butt-hurt-ness of CIS porsters when “their” coach wasn’t hired. And almost a desire for the team to fail so they can be right.

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So We’re saying Mario lost this team over his decision to not knee it…yet the team came out and played one of their best half’s of football of the season…
 
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Simply put, The Zebras was extremely pro-Miami tonight, yet we created our own self inflictions.

Part of the problem I’ve now seen for the past several seasons is this false sense of where we r as a program after we beat the likes of BCU, Temple, Central Connecticut, So Miss, Savannah St, UAB, etc. The other issue is when we have beaten a P5 team early, it’s been fool’s gold as that team wasn’t as good as their ranking appeared (I’m looking at the 2013 UF Gators & 2023 8&4 Aggies).

Come October-November we get to really see the mantle of this team. Do you know y I kept harping on the excuse makers for the GT debacle? It’s b/c we had no business being in that position; I’m not talking about the kneeling, I’m talking about being that close to them. UNC was absolutely bludgeoned w/ penalties tonight, yet they had a 3 score lead on us deep in the 4th. ****, if they didn’t have big play after big play called back, the score would’ve been far worst.

Good, well coached teams can overcome officiating when they are the better team. We continue to self inflict our own wounds, and it’s frustrating. Every year, sans 2017, we have unbelievable off season hype, & every year we see the same chit, some is chit is packaged better than other yrs, but it’s the same chit.

We’ll see how the rest of this season plays, but now that more game film is out…we’ll just see
Yessir.

Giving me 2013 vibes, with the addition of an all-time debacle loss
 
1) you have always been right about our secondary. Shocked more teams don’t take advantage. Davis sucks real bad

2)Finally someone mentioned colbie young. Dude is just not good. He plays small and doesn’t go up and get it with any force. In fact, all of our WRs minus X don’t bother fighting back for a ball at all. The backups at WR late looked hungrier

3) Mario’s refusal to hire a good air raid OC is rearing its head the last two weeks. Diversity is a huge issue for us in run and pass. Especially the run
 
They didn't quit. Not for one second.

I don't see a team deflated by the Ga Tech debacle- I think, for some reason, many of you are hoping for that

Two things about the secondary:

- It's a work in progress - not a secret. Guidry's defense was always going to put stress on it and that was known from the start. And as for the "freelancing " on the back end - I seem to remember it being said that Guidry's scheme allowed them to "play free. Not think too much and just play". Well, that's surely what it looks like back there. Not much thinking..

- The DLine doesn't help the secondary. Losing Mesidor really hurt. They played much better in the first half and then couldn't keep up the level of play. I saw Moten standing on the sidelines... why isn't he playing?
 
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To add to the OL issue tonight, I didn't see McCoy being brought in as a help for the OL like they did versus A&M. That surely would have helped since the RB didn't do much as blockers or in pass pro.
 
…and just wait for next Saturday. We ain’t seen nothing yet. Clempson is licking their chops to whoop our asses as has become customary.

Louisville and Pitt are certain losses, and I suspect that the Holes game will be an *** whooping of epic proportions.

Corch Mario has set us back even further than before. Unless something drastically changes, we are cooked for the long term.
We don't even play Pitt and Clemson may beat us but this isn't the Clemson of the last decade ... good D and bad O.
 
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Idk if everybody knows that, I certainly can recall a number of people who pushed back against this sentiment when he was being brought in back in the Spring & earlier in the season.

But nonetheless, a lot of players get discussed on here for various reasons, whether he’s a star or not doesn’t preclude him from being singled out for his bad play that has mostly gone unnoticed until tonight & even so still isn’t really being examined in mass by the board on the same scale as others.

He’s been getting worked for most of the season, but people have just given him a pass because of the TAMU game, but looking at the entirety of his College careers thus far, this is exactly who he’s been since he was at Oklahoma.

Hence why the take was questionable to begin with.

And this brings us to Addae. Questionable recruiting, development and the only guys he’s landed In the portal are mostly guys he has some connection with or are sofla kids.

I’d take a real hard look at Addae this off season, if it was Mario.
 
Idk if everybody knows that, I certainly can recall a number of people who pushed back against this sentiment when he was being brought in back in the Spring & earlier in the season.

But nonetheless, a lot of players get discussed on here for various reasons, whether he’s a star or not doesn’t preclude him from being singled out for his bad play that has mostly gone unnoticed until tonight & even so still isn’t really being examined in mass by the board on the same scale as others.

He’s been getting worked for most of the season, but people have just given him a pass because of the TAMU game, but looking at the entirety of his College careers thus far, this is exactly who he’s been since he was at Oklahoma.

Hence why the take was questionable to begin with.
So more (again!) portal CB take(s) that are speedsters?
 
1. Why so much Jaden Davis and so little Jadais/Brown Brothers/Freeney on the outside? They can't be that much worse, could they? The coaches seem to have locked-in on the same three receivers but can't seem to make up their minds in the secondary (Addae? Guidry?). Davis and Couch should always be in the slot.

2. D*MN we're slow! This has been a thing for a while too, I'd say since Manny took over. The players were flying on every other team I watched yesterday while we're plodding around. Stop recruiting snails and get some cheetahs out there.

3. Dawson is starting to worry me. Outside of the A&M game, he's basically been running the same stagnant offense all year. No innovation, no creativity, just the same three receiver sets. I'm glad somebody else is fed up with the screens to Horton and Colby. It worked once! Give it a rest and use Ray Ray, Harrell, or Kirk! Also, the tempo and urgency is downright abysmal at times.

I don't think the GT loss affected the team that much in this game tbh. The inconsistent play has been there all year.
 
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