Porter and Henderson update

[Dingaan1828]

Teams were starting to throw at Thomas Finnie at the end of the year. I would wait on AJL if I thought he was better than the two redshirt WRs. If he made it in, I would discuss playing time with one of other guys. A freshman class of AJL, Lockhart (I believe he got a medical red shirt) and Coley looks good on paper.

I watched the Lockhart video again. I’m still not sure how he did not get on the field. It looked like all we had to do was get him the ball, and something was going to happen. We started the year with no proven WRs. Going into fall camp, I thought he was a starter.

Lockhart only played in 2 games, but they were in the second half of the season. That means no medical redshirt.

 

[AUcane]

I wonder what the deal is with AJL.

Seriously? At this stage you're asking that?

lol Barry Jackson still thinking we dropped AJL.

I think it's fair to say we did drop him. What makes you say otherwise?

Finnie would play plenty next year if he is still on the team.

Yup. He's not a starter but he's a very serviceable reserve.

 

[tjl1388]

When/If Coley puts on that helmet with the U on it no one will remember AJL save for a "remember this kid" thread in the WEZ.

 

[CentralRockets2000]

How accurate has Kiper been? Remember he and McShay had Miller as 1st or early 2nd round and look at the outcome of that

 

[Udaman]

About to say the same thing...where does Mel Kiper get that Seantrel (based on his performance to date) would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick? From Drew Rosenahus?

 

[Canesfan1899]

How accurate has Kiper been? Remember he and McShay had Miller as 1st or early 2nd round and look at the outcome of that

Little different with RB's, especially a RB coming off shoulder surgery.

 

[AUcane]

About to say the same thing...where does Mel Kiper get that Seantrel (based on his performance to date) would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick? From Drew Rosenahus?

I agree with Mel. I think probably more in the 3rd/4th round area, though. Let's be real - the kid has a 10 year+ NFL career type of talent (at a pro bowl level).

 

[razrcane]

I wonder what the deal is with AJL.

I don't understand how hard it is to pass the basic courses. Jesus.

Smh...if he's visiting Marshall that says a lot

 

[LuCane]

About to say the same thing...where does Mel Kiper get that Seantrel (based on his performance to date) would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick? From Drew Rosenahus?

I agree with Mel. I think probably more in the 3rd/4th round area, though. Let's be real - the kid has a 10 year+ NFL career type of talent (at a pro bowl level).

He has that kind of talent and that makes him a mid-rounder at the moment, but his risk is higher than it should be. He hasn't shown the ability to play a complete season and remain steady - on and off the field. If I'm a GM, I take that into consideration. I also take into consideration that he has a "pro" mentality. He probably views half the things that get him suspended - not going to class, or study hall, etc. - as meaningless. All in all, I think he'd be a 3rd or 4th rounder this year, as you said. Remember, he hasn't consistently shown he can play LT and he'd probably project as a RT right now.

As I did last year with Streeter and B-Wash, here's a brief financial breakdown:

If he leaves this year and is taken around the 3rd round, where Donald Stephenson, a LT prospect (6' 6" 310, 4.98 40yd), was selected...

His contract would be around 4 years for 2.74 million dollars, with a signing bonus less than 700k.

If he remains steady for a year, plays either RT or LT, and is selected at the very, very least somewhere like Mike Adams (6' 7" 325, 56th pick overall)...

His contract the following year would be around 4 years 3.5 million with a signing bonus over 1 million.

The difference is only around 1 million dollars over the next 4 years. However, this is the worst case scenario for him, and what happens if he actually produces up to his talent level and ends up a first rounder in 2014?

His contract would be at worst 4 years around 8 million dollars with a 4 million bonus, 6+ million in guaranteed money and probably an optional 5th year (reference: Riley Reiff).

From a financial standpoint, this should be a fairly straightforward decision for Seantrel. If he can keep it together for just 12 months, he potentially increases his first contract by 100%. If you have a pro mentality and are worried about the $, that's your move.

 

[rsa coral gables]

About to say the same thing...where does Mel Kiper get that Seantrel (based on his performance to date) would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick? From Drew Rosenahus?

I agree with Mel. I think probably more in the 3rd/4th round area, though. Let's be real - the kid has a 10 year+ NFL career type of talent (at a pro bowl level).

He has that kind of talent and that makes him a mid-rounder at the moment, but his risk is higher than it should be. He hasn't shown the ability to play a complete season and remain steady - on and off the field. If I'm a GM, I take that into consideration. I also take into consideration that he has a "pro" mentality. He probably views half the things that get him suspended - not going to class, or study hall, etc. - as meaningless. All in all, I think he'd be a 3rd or 4th rounder this year, as you said. Remember, he hasn't consistently shown he can play LT and he'd probably project as a RT right now.

As I did last year with Streeter and B-Wash, here's a brief financial breakdown:

If he leaves this year and is taken around the 3rd round, where Donald Stephenson, a LT prospect (6' 6" 310, 4.98 40yd), was selected...

His contract would be around 4 years for 2.74 million dollars, with a signing bonus less than 700k.

If he remains steady for a year, plays either RT or LT, and is selected at the very, very least somewhere like Mike Adams (6' 7" 325, 56th pick overall)...

His contract the following year would be around 4 years 3.5 million with a signing bonus over 1 million.

The difference is only around 1 million dollars over the next 4 years. However, this is the worst case scenario for him, and what happens if he actually produces up to his talent level and ends up a first rounder in 2014?

His contract would be at worst 4 years around 8 million dollars with a 4 million bonus, 6+ million in guaranteed money and probably an optional 5th year (reference: Riley Reiff).

From a financial standpoint, this should be a fairly straightforward decision for Seantrel. If he can keep it together for just 12 months, he potentially increases his first contract by 100%. If you have a pro mentality and are worried about the $, that's your move.

good analysis. appreciate the data. makes a lot of sense to me from my comfortable coral gables office/house and in my mid-40s. unfortunately, a kid in his early 20s that has been a star all of his life may look at it a little different. plus there is the chance of injury. i hope he's matured and i hope he has some good guidance around him (other than UM coaches). it will also be interesting to see what the NFL comes back with.

 

[gacericardo]

Pretty sure AJL took the ACT this past Saturday, and that's why he didn't visit. I've yet to see anything credible assuring us he won't be here.

Ferman took him off the commit list. What else do you need?

 

[RiDLer80]

Porter coming back is huge to go along with an older Pierre.

I've heard nothing about Luther Robinson. I'll assume that means he's happy and working hard for next season?

 

[MetiSkeemz]

Did Seantrel henderson miss his performance last season or am I missing something because it was nothing to be inquiring about draft positions for. If he doesnt have a stud senior season, Him and another former UM lineman will have alot more in common than dreadlocks.





*cough Brandon Washington*

 

[BigDikCane]

when will lewis be back on the field?

 

[FreePawn]

About to say the same thing...where does Mel Kiper get that Seantrel (based on his performance to date) would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick? From Drew Rosenahus?

I agree with Mel. I think probably more in the 3rd/4th round area, though. Let's be real - the kid has a 10 year+ NFL career type of talent (at a pro bowl level).

He has that kind of talent and that makes him a mid-rounder at the moment, but his risk is higher than it should be. He hasn't shown the ability to play a complete season and remain steady - on and off the field. If I'm a GM, I take that into consideration. I also take into consideration that he has a "pro" mentality. He probably views half the things that get him suspended - not going to class, or study hall, etc. - as meaningless. All in all, I think he'd be a 3rd or 4th rounder this year, as you said. Remember, he hasn't consistently shown he can play LT and he'd probably project as a RT right now.

As I did last year with Streeter and B-Wash, here's a brief financial breakdown:

If he leaves this year and is taken around the 3rd round, where Donald Stephenson, a LT prospect (6' 6" 310, 4.98 40yd), was selected...

His contract would be around 4 years for 2.74 million dollars, with a signing bonus less than 700k.

If he remains steady for a year, plays either RT or LT, and is selected at the very, very least somewhere like Mike Adams (6' 7" 325, 56th pick overall)...

His contract the following year would be around 4 years 3.5 million with a signing bonus over 1 million.

The difference is only around 1 million dollars over the next 4 years. However, this is the worst case scenario for him, and what happens if he actually produces up to his talent level and ends up a first rounder in 2014?

His contract would be at worst 4 years around 8 million dollars with a 4 million bonus, 6+ million in guaranteed money and probably an optional 5th year (reference: Riley Reiff).

From a financial standpoint, this should be a fairly straightforward decision for Seantrel. If he can keep it together for just 12 months, he potentially increases his first contract by 100%. If you have a pro mentality and are worried about the $, that's your move.

good analysis. appreciate the data. makes a lot of sense to me from my comfortable coral gables office/house and in my mid-40s. unfortunately, a kid in his early 20s that has been a star all of his life may look at it a little different. plus there is the chance of injury. i hope he's matured and i hope he has some good guidance around him (other than UM coaches). it will also be interesting to see what the NFL comes back with.

Plus there´s the slight chance that, to someone from his background, this:

2.74 million dollars, with a signing bonus less than 700k

sounds like a ****-load of money, more than he could have dreamt of making any other way.

 

[LuCane]

Plus there´s the slight chance that, to someone from his background, this:

2.74 million dollars, with a signing bonus less than 700k

sounds like a ****-load of money, more than he could have dreamt of making any other way.

Granted. Though Seantrel is actually a pretty savvy dude when it comes to assessing what he's going to get out of a situation. Double the money seems to stand out.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Plus there´s the slight chance that, to someone from his background, this:

2.74 million dollars, with a signing bonus less than 700k

sounds like a ****-load of money, more than he could have dreamt of making any other way.

Granted. Though Seantrel is actually a pretty savvy dude when it comes to assessing what he's going to get out of a situation. Double the money seems to stand out.

You stick around for the the bigger paycheck. Otherwise he's stuck on a 4 yr. rookie contract for a 3-4th rounder.