PODCAST: D$ and Lance Roffers break down new DC, Lance Guidry

[Lance Roffers]

I love me some quarters. Great against the run. Turns your deep safeties into primary run defenders. Quarters is kind of a misleading term.

I would think of is as “Read #2”. I liken it to pattern match man coverage. Its very efficient at making use of alignment leverage. Also helps you be sound with run fits.

When I coached DBs I spent a ton of time teaching alignment concepts so our lesser athletes would be in the best position possible based on formation, personnel grouping and situation.

Agreed. I was talking with Roman about it and we saw things a little differently at times, whereas I saw more quarters/3 he saw some cover-2 match on both slots etc. but without the landmarks and rules you can't really be certain what was supposed to be happening.

Biggest thing is he is going to mess with QB's heads and disguise coverages well. Miami will finally play match coverage as well. Couldn't stand the amount of simple-man coverage Miami has played over past few years.

 

[Lance Roffers]

does anyone know? Yes, someone knows.

There are a few. For one, he was Taggart's DC at Western Kentucky, so Taggart is a contact.

Additionally, he's an Ed Orgeron favorite, and Mario likes Orgeron.

 

[JOE'CANE]

Correction FAU is the best team near Miami lol just facts!!

 

[WestEndZone]

Agreed. I was talking with Roman about it and we saw things a little differently at times, whereas I saw more quarters/3 he saw some cover-2 match on both slots etc. but without the landmarks and rules you can't really be certain what was supposed to be happening.

Biggest thing is he is going to mess with QB's heads and disguise coverages well. Miami will finally play match coverage as well. Couldn't stand the amount of simple-man coverage Miami has played over past few years.

I gotta watch the film, but they might be running split field coverages or what you saw might be a trips check.

I used to coach in a Gary Patterson style 425 where vast majority of non pressure coverages were dual call for field and boundary. For example, you might get quarters to the passing strength and something else on the back end, etc.

Idk I’m not a big fan of running press man all the time. Tips things off too much. I like looking like an ameba with corners generally 5 yards off and the safeties moving around pre snap within preset parameters. Let’s you disguise cover zero really easy and let’s you roll to zone pressure easy too.

For example:

One of my favorite trips check below. The inverted safety and deep safety play quarters on #’s 2 and 3 and the corner is man on #1. Inverted safety plays a shuffle tech reading #3 as if a corner would be reading #2 in regular quarters. Deep safety reads #3 as well:

 

[Lance Roffers]

I gotta watch the film, but they might be running split field coverages or what you saw might be a trips check.

I used to coach in a Gary Patterson style 425 where vast majority of non pressure coverages were dual call for field and boundary. For example, you might get quarters to the passing strength and something else on the back end, etc.

Idk I’m not a big fan of running press man all the time. Tips things off too much. I like looking like an ameba with corners generally 5 yards off and the safeties moving around pre snap within preset parameters. Let’s you disguise cover zero really easy and let’s you roll to zone pressure easy too.

For example:
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One of my favorite trips check below. The inverted safety and deep safety play quarters on #’s 2 and 3 and the corner is man on #1. Inverted safety plays a shuffle tech reading #3 as if a corner would be reading #2 in regular quarters. Deep safety reads #3 as well:

Agreed. This is honestly pretty similar to how I saw it. Roman saw it differently.

Which is one of the reasons why I love talking to that guy (aside from just being a good friend). He challenges me to look at things another way. He was a QB.

I’m 5-10, I was always back-end.

 

[PlanoCane]

dam. It sounds like Gil would have been a monster in this D. One year too late….

We say only if such and such are so great until a year later Banners are being flown. O don't think we hit with a good DC or OC coach in quite some time. Next yr this is going to be brought up again. . A D2 coach yeah I'm going to be highly intoxicated.

 

[kyle_schick]

I'm cautiously optimistic.

My one hang up is that this scheme looks like it requires some brainpower to execute. Passing guys off and picking them up. In the video, the Marshall players looked very smooth executing the coverage.

I think the upperclassmen on defense right now might not be smart enough to run this scheme properly.

Hopefully transfers, and young guys can run it.

 

[Mario Hurricanes]

Very good conversation! Learned a lot about schemes and our new DC. Thank you!!

 

[Rellyrell]

Great podcast. The more I hear about Guidry the more I like. I prefer aggressive defensive coaches than the guys who wait for offenses to make mistakes. For all of Manny’s faults, I always agreed with his basic philosophy. Pressure causes opponent mistakes and if you want to create turnovers and negative plays, you need to prioritize pressure. Hopefully Guidry can prioritize fundamentals that Manny seemed to ignore.

Agree w/ u; the issue w/ Manny’s defense is it was an all or nothing defense. Literally feast or famine, & when the nothing happened, oh boy. Imo, his best defensive years were when he had McIntosh, Norton, & Willis manning the DT position b/c they collapsed the interior of the pocket. Once we lost that caliber of interior presence, we saw the chinks of his philosophy go to ****.

I think Guidry, along w/ Aranda create this philosophy of pressure, pressure, pressure, while creating a safety valve where if the pressure don’t get home, they’re not gashed for huge plays. It’ll be very interesting to see how we best utilize the pieces we have to make them most effective. I think JW0 will be one of the best benefactors in this type of scheme.

However, one caution to note: He (Guidry) did mention he look for smart players to run his scheme, aka Football IQ. That’s a lot of dedication to film & communication with teammates. My only concern is at times we’ve seen hero ball being played more often than not. So I’m anxiously waiting to see how this translates w/ this group of young men, plagued by poor coaching & development since their time here.

 

[DTP]

Agree w/ u; the issue w/ Manny’s defense is it was an or nothing defense. Literally feast or famine, & when the nothing happened, oh boy. Imo, his best defensive years were when he had McIntosh, Norton, & Willis manning the DT position b/c they collapsed the interior of the pocket. Once we lost that caliber of interior presence, we saw the chinks of his philosophy go to ****.

I think Guidry, along w/ Aranda create this philosophy of pressure, pressure, pressure, while creating a safety valve where if the pressure don’t get home, they’re not gashed for huge plays. It’ll be very interesting to see how we best utilize the pieces we have to make them most effective. I think JW0 will be one of the best benefactors in this type of scheme.

However, one caution to note: He (Guidry) did mention he look for smart players to run his scheme, aka Football IQ. That’s a lot of dedication to film & communication with teammates. My only concern is at times we’ve seen hero ball being played more often than not. So I’m anxiously waiting to see how this translates w/ this group of young men, plagued by poor coaching & development since their time here.

Manny’s defense was reliant on interior linemen that could get into the backfield and solid tacklers on the back end. Guys like Willis and McIntosh were perfect for the scheme because they could get skinny and shoot gaps. Then guys like Quarterman and Jaquan Johnson were such solid tacklers, they could erase mistakes when linemen would get over aggressive. Once the talent level fell off up the middle (DT, MLB, S) the defense got laughably bad. It can be really hard to run an aggressive scheme with mediocre players. That’s why I’m impressed with Guidry. Let’s be honest, his guys at Marshall were neither premium athletes nor geniuses (c’mon, it’s Marshall) and he was able to make his hyper aggressive scheme work.

 

[Rellyrell]

Manny’s defense was reliant on interior linemen that could get into the backfield and solid tacklers on the back end. Guys like Willis and McIntosh were perfect for the scheme because they could get skinny and shoot gaps. Then guys like Quarterman and Jaquan Johnson were such solid tacklers, they could erase mistakes when linemen would get over aggressive. Once the talent level fell off up the middle (DT, MLB, S) the defense got laughably bad. It can be really hard to run an aggressive scheme with mediocre players. That’s why I’m impressed with Guidry. Let’s be honest, his guys at Marshall were neither premium athletes nor geniuses (c’mon, it’s Marshall) and he was able to make his hyper aggressive scheme work.

Yep; spot on bro. That’s y I’m eagerly intrigued by what he will be able to do w/ a better assortment of athletes at his disposal. I like the hire, & I think his scheme matches the athletes we have. I’m also intrigued to see how LT56 will fare in this scheme. We may have some $$ yr players from the class of 2021 in this scheme. Lord knows we need some good 3 & out high draft picks to change the perception of our program around here.

 

[simplycanes]

Thank you @Lance Roffers and @DMoney .

 

[Lance Roffers]

Agree w/ u; the issue w/ Manny’s defense is it was an all or nothing defense. Literally feast or famine, & when the nothing happened, oh boy. Imo, his best defensive years were when he had McIntosh, Norton, & Willis manning the DT position b/c they collapsed the interior of the pocket. Once we lost that caliber of interior presence, we saw the chinks of his philosophy go to ****.

I think Guidry, along w/ Aranda create this philosophy of pressure, pressure, pressure, while creating a safety valve where if the pressure don’t get home, they’re not gashed for huge plays. It’ll be very interesting to see how we best utilize the pieces we have to make them most effective. I think JW0 will be one of the best benefactors in this type of scheme.

However, one caution to note: He (Guidry) did mention he look for smart players to run his scheme, aka Football IQ. That’s a lot of dedication to film & communication with teammates. My only concern is at times we’ve seen hero ball being played more often than not. So I’m anxiously waiting to see how this translates w/ this group of young men, plagued by poor coaching & development since their time here.

Just as you’ve never heard a coach say “we are going to run a passive scheme” you’ve also never heard a coach say he’s looking for anything but “smart players.”

It would be pretty epic to hear a new coach stand up there and say, “what we want to do is be passive. Hopefully we will be soft as well. Players really can be as dumb as they want, as long as they try hard.”

 

[3rd-43]

Agreed. This is honestly pretty similar to how I saw it. Roman saw it differently.

Which is one of the reasons why I love talking to that guy (aside from just being a good friend). He challenges me to look at things another way. He was a QB.

I’m 5-10, I was always back-end.

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[Lance Roffers]

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**** it. He got me.

Never let me slip, cause if I slip then I’m slipping.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

Agree w/ u; the issue w/ Manny’s defense is it was an all or nothing defense. Literally feast or famine, & when the nothing happened, oh boy. Imo, his best defensive years were when he had McIntosh, Norton, & Willis manning the DT position b/c they collapsed the interior of the pocket. Once we lost that caliber of interior presence, we saw the chinks of his philosophy go to ****.

I think Guidry, along w/ Aranda create this philosophy of pressure, pressure, pressure, while creating a safety valve where if the pressure don’t get home, they’re not gashed for huge plays. It’ll be very interesting to see how we best utilize the pieces we have to make them most effective. I think JW0 will be one of the best benefactors in this type of scheme.

However, one caution to note: He (Guidry) did mention he look for smart players to run his scheme, aka Football IQ. That’s a lot of dedication to film & communication with teammates. My only concern is at times we’ve seen hero ball being played more often than not. So I’m anxiously waiting to see how this translates w/ this group of young men, plagued by poor coaching & development since their time here.

Hearing the word "guardrails" over and over when other coaches discuss Guidry's aggressive defense has been my favorite part of this hire so far.

 

[TitansHope]

However, one caution to note: He (Guidry) did mention he look for smart players to run his scheme, aka Football IQ. That’s a lot of dedication to film & communication with teammates. My only concern is at times we’ve seen hero ball being played more often than not. So I’m anxiously waiting to see how this translates w/ this group of young men, plagued by poor coaching & development since their time here.

guy like kam could be really valuable to shepherd the transition. we know he'll be on top of things; he needs to step up as a leader and help get buy-in from the rest.

 

[Rellyrell]

guy like kam could be really valuable to shepherd the transition. we know he'll be on top of things; he needs to step up as a leader and help get buy-in from the rest.

& this is another aspect that’s been missing. We had guys who would pass the torch to the next group, therefore we didn’t ever “rebuild” as opposed to reloading. Part of the reason we’ve been in rebuild mode since 4ever is b/c of this very point u touched on.

 

[cenoc918]

My big question is' Why wasn't Charlie Strong interview he's a better DC then this guy more yrs of experience with south fla ties. Seriously peoples I'm starting to doubt what this guy can do