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DMoney joins the podcast to give his thoughts on Miami's 2017 recruiting class.

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I agree with D-Money's assessment on FSU's potential downfall/decay. This is what happened to us in the early 2000's. Complacency starts to creep in and a lot of **** has been going on in Tally with their players. Florida players are a different breed, and starting to take your recruiting to a national level is what Coker started doing. Stay in Florida, keep it simple to a point. Sprinkle the class with national players.
 
Being objective here to generate conversation. You can say they are declining because they are recruiting nationally all you want. But truth of the matter is that the teams that are winning big only have a few amount of south Florida players on their team. Look at bama they have had what?cooper; Ridley,Eddie Jackson, burgess-Becker and who else? Clemson has had Trayvon Mullen, yearagin and who else from south Florida? Ohio state joey bosa, Damon armette, and who else? These are teams in their championship years. Now I'm not saying Florida in particular the south Florida region isn't the most talented in the country. It most certainly is.. but good football is played outside of the region too. People must remember that.

Just on our team along most of our top ten players were from out of state. I don't think it's fair to say a south Florida guy has more "fight" or "hunger" then let's say a corn elder or David njoku
 
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brock said:
Being objective here to generate conversation. You can say they are declining because they are recruiting nationally all you want. But truth of the matter is that the teams that are winning big only have a few amount of south Florida players on their team. Look at bama they have had what?cooper; Ridley,Eddie Jackson, burgess-Becker and who else? Clemson has had Trayvon Mullen, yearagin and who else from south Florida? Ohio state joey bosa, Damon armette, and who else? These are teams in their championship years. Now I'm not saying Florida in particular the south Florida region isn't the most talented in the country. It most certainly is.. but good football is played outside of the region too. People must remember that.

Just on our team along most of our top ten players were from out of state. I don't think it's fair to say a south Florida guy has more "fight" or "hunger" then let's say a corn elder or David njoku
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I will say in terms of rivalry type games, oos recruits don't feel the burn as well as instate guys . . . see kaaya as example
 
brock said:
Being objective here to generate conversation. You can say they are declining because they are recruiting nationally all you want. But truth of the matter is that the teams that are winning big only have a few amount of south Florida players on their team. Look at bama they have had what?cooper; Ridley,Eddie Jackson, burgess-Becker and who else? Clemson has had Trayvon Mullen, yearagin and who else from south Florida? Ohio state joey bosa, Damon armette, and who else? These are teams in their championship years. Now I'm not saying Florida in particular the south Florida region isn't the most talented in the country. It most certainly is.. but good football is played outside of the region too. People must remember that.

Just on our team along most of our top ten players were from out of state. I don't think it's fair to say a south Florida guy has more "fight" or "hunger" then let's say a corn elder or David njoku
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I will respectfully disagree with this.

Give me ballers from South Florida over ballers from anywhere else.

The NFL data doesn't lie
 
cway313 said:
Recap for us at work?
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Didn't listen yet, but I'm confident D$ mentioned that we need to focus on South Florida and that there were plenty of under the radar South Florida guys we could have had instead of messing with Whoopi McFartland and the two gator facquits.
 
brock said:
Being objective here to generate conversation. You can say they are declining because they are recruiting nationally all you want. But truth of the matter is that the teams that are winning big only have a few amount of south Florida players on their team. Look at bama they have had what?cooper; Ridley,Eddie Jackson, burgess-Becker and who else? Clemson has had Trayvon Mullen, yearagin and who else from south Florida? Ohio state joey bosa, Damon armette, and who else? These are teams in their championship years. Now I'm not saying Florida in particular the south Florida region isn't the most talented in the country. It most certainly is.. but good football is played outside of the region too. People must remember that.

Just on our team along most of our top ten players were from out of state. I don't think it's fair to say a south Florida guy has more "fight" or "hunger" then let's say a corn elder or David njoku
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I don't agree with you much Broke but right now I do.
 
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orange&green84 said:
I agree with D-Money's assessment on FSU's potential downfall/decay. This is what happened to us in the early 2000's. Complacency starts to creep in and a lot of **** has been going on in Tally with their players. Florida players are a different breed, and starting to take your recruiting to a national level is what Coker started doing. Stay in Florida, keep it simple to a point. Sprinkle the class with national players.
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Biggest quitter on FSU's team last year was South Florida cvntface traitor Matt Thomas. Take a look at his "effort" in the UNC game last year. Cuckbo should have thrown him off the team after seeing that tape.
 
The Franchise said:
orange&green84 said:
I agree with D-Money's assessment on FSU's potential downfall/decay. This is what happened to us in the early 2000's. Complacency starts to creep in and a lot of **** has been going on in Tally with their players. Florida players are a different breed, and starting to take your recruiting to a national level is what Coker started doing. Stay in Florida, keep it simple to a point. Sprinkle the class with national players.
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Biggest quitter on FSU's team last year was South Florida cvntface traitor Matt Thomas. Take a look at his "effort" in the UNC game last year. Cuckbo should have thrown him off the team after seeing that tape.
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He came up big in the Michigan game though, as much as it pains me to say it.
 
brock said:
Being objective here to generate conversation. You can say they are declining because they are recruiting nationally all you want. But truth of the matter is that the teams that are winning big only have a few amount of south Florida players on their team. Look at bama they have had what?cooper; Ridley,Eddie Jackson, burgess-Becker and who else? Clemson has had Trayvon Mullen, yearagin and who else from south Florida? Ohio state joey bosa, Damon armette, and who else? These are teams in their championship years. Now I'm not saying Florida in particular the south Florida region isn't the most talented in the country. It most certainly is.. but good football is played outside of the region too. People must remember that.

Just on our team along most of our top ten players were from out of state. I don't think it's fair to say a south Florida guy has more "fight" or "hunger" then let's say a corn elder or David njoku
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I agree to an extent. I think you have to have the RIGHT So. Florida kids at the right positions. WR and DB especially, maybe LB too. Further, you have to make the correct evaluations regarding character, work ethic, etc. It seems to me that South Florida produces absolute studs and alarming busts both at very high rates.
 
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[MENTION=2]DMoney[/MENTION] with the line of the year "so they can get away with a little rape"


/DEAD bruh
 
orange&green84 said:
I agree with D-Money's assessment on FSU's potential downfall/decay. This is what happened to us in the early 2000's. Complacency starts to creep in and a lot of **** has been going on in Tally with their players. Florida players are a different breed, and starting to take your recruiting to a national level is what Coker started doing. Stay in Florida, keep it simple to a point. Sprinkle the class with national players.
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Peter Ariz said:
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DMoney joins the podcast to give his thoughts on Miami's 2017 recruiting class.

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ageezy said:
brock said:
Being objective here to generate conversation. You can say they are declining because they are recruiting nationally all you want. But truth of the matter is that the teams that are winning big only have a few amount of south Florida players on their team. Look at bama they have had what?cooper; Ridley,Eddie Jackson, burgess-Becker and who else? Clemson has had Trayvon Mullen, yearagin and who else from south Florida? Ohio state joey bosa, Damon armette, and who else? These are teams in their championship years. Now I'm not saying Florida in particular the south Florida region isn't the most talented in the country. It most certainly is.. but good football is played outside of the region too. People must remember that.

Just on our team along most of our top ten players were from out of state. I don't think it's fair to say a south Florida guy has more "fight" or "hunger" then let's say a corn elder or David njoku
Click to expand...

I will say in terms of rivalry type games, oos recruits don't feel the burn as well as instate guys . . . see kaaya as example
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So...Ed Reed, Reggie Wayne and DJ Williams didn't feel the burn? Michigan vs OSU kids go against their home states play with a passion...Mich DE Taco Charlton is from Col, Ohio 15 min from OSU stadium, Charles Woodson the list goes on..OSU starting RB Mike Weber is from Michigan....Zeek is from STL.....FSU Akers, Laborn, Wilson etc...are no different talent is talent! It's all about the schools you attend more than anything else....social media allows coaches to see thousands of reels much quicker these days....coaches have relationships with HS coaches everywhere....It's not the same we gotta get with the times.....we haveta get some OOS kids like the rest of those winning teams. Sure you clean up in your own back yard which shouldn't be hard with easy access....Kids visit the campus a thousand times.... either coming or not....We keep getting burned every time ....that's why you still need to look around... it's evident sfla has been invaded by the entire country....like another poster said.. winning teams are doing with OOS kids...Miami needs to go after them as well.
 
Yeah, it really comes down to talent evaluation. I mean look at Amari Cooper. Sure he was a stud, and I recall a lot of people around here wanting him. But there was also a solid contingent that said we would be ok with the guys we had that year. Turns out, Amari was head and shoulder better. Or he was developed better, but considering what he did as a freshman he was just that good. I think there needs to be a good mix of talent evaluation and development. I don't think Saban of Meyer are that much better evaluators of talent as much as they get the most out of the kids willing to work hard. I mean, look at Butch. I think he is great at both as well. Evaluation and development. I mean he had a nasty looking team before they all got kicked off the team before the season. I am interested to see if he pulls it off at a lower level school.

However, I think Richt is also better than average at both evaluation and development. Plus we have a few coaches that definitely get the most out of their kids.

I also think D$ at times reaches to prove his obvious point about the sheer number of talented players from SoFla. Because it never takes into account the number of busts as well. But for the U, and being where it is located. That super talented base should be where you do the majority of your work. Especially for the skill positions. Its about relationships with these local schools. So that when they have a sure fire stud, you can go get him. We have missed on so many, and honestly its getting worse before it gets better. I mean look at UF and Alabamas recent recruiting down here. They are doing way too well in south florida.
 
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