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[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

….has a huge footprint and feels like you're inside a cathedral unless it's 100% full at night and the fans are enraged from drinking in the parking lot for 10 hours leading up to kickoff.

This is just dead wrong as anybody that has ever been to the stadium, especially since the renovation, would tell you. Why are you just making things up? Even at around 45 or 50,000 the stadium feels very full. Any stadium at half capacity is gonna feel bigger. What are you even saying?

 

[rok]

This is just dead wrong as anybody that has ever been to the stadium, especially since the renovation, would tell you. Why are you just making things up? Even at around 45 or 50,000 the stadium feels very full. Any stadium at half capacity is gonna feel bigger. What are you even saying?

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that stadium feeling full at 3/4 capacity, especially compared with the OB. It can get loud but the place is just so big and every sound echoes for 30 minutes. It's noisy but not in a good way imo. Non-stop techno and reggaeton reverberate and you can't help but become transfixed by the giant jumbotrons and the kids dabbing on camera. It's too much going on at once. There are college football stadiums and then there are amusement parks like Hard Rock. It's perfect for the Dolphins now that they have their facility on site but it's never felt like more of a rental property for UM.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I long for a small town ****hole experience because that's college football. We don't need insulated cupholders that keep your drinks cold, or lazy boy chairs behind the 50 yard line that are always empty anyway because "Golden Canes" are tucked away in some lounge watching on tv dining on caviar and sipping champagne. We're lucky to have a stadium as nice as Hard Rock but if a good opportunity arises I hope we take a hard look (no pun intended).

You better find another stadium and another team to cheer for, because wherever we go, and it’s most likely we stay at hard rock anyway, but even if we change stadiums it’s never going to be a small town college experience. This is Miami. Not Oxford Mississippi or shlthole Gainesville.

The people that pay the money for season tickets want an upgraded experience. They don’t care about you wanting a small town atmosphere. They laugh at people like you. You don’t pay the bills. The big money people and the season ticket holders do.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that stadium feeling full at 3/4 capacity, especially compared with the OB. It can get loud but the place is just so big and every sound echoes for 30 minutes. It's noisy but not in a good way imo. Non-stop techno and reggaeton reverberate and you can't help but become transfixed by the giant jumbotrons and the kids dabbing on camera. It's too much going on at once. There are college football stadiums and then there are amusement parks like Hard Rock. It's perfect for the Dolphins now that they have their facility on site but it's never felt like more of a rental property for UM.

Good lord you’re the master of conflation.

You are conflating the music they play in between plays, and/or time out distractions, which by the way are all generated or approved by the University of Miami, with the actual physical stadium and whether it’s worthwhile for football or not, which it most certainly is.

I know you’re in your rok shtick, but stop and think for a minute what you just wrote.

And for the record I think they need improvement in the between plays loudness or in what they choose to bombard the stadium speakers with, but that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about, if we had our own stadium, since the University Of Miami chose that, they would be doing exactly the same thing in our own stadium.

 

[Empirical Cane]

 

[oso4lyf]

I'd rather stay at the Rock

 

[ssvir]

this sucks for college games​

Review of Hard Rock Stadium
Reviewed October 2, 2018
the way the stadium sets up for college is totally wrong they amplify the sound of music constantly and it takes away from the college experience for the fans , they forget we are not there to hear guns and roses or hip hop we want to hear the sounds of the bands the student the refs the mascot etc.. also the pricing for food and beverages is the same as the pro games, exp 5 dollars for bottle water is ridiculous 12 dollars or more for a beer is also sick not to mention the price of food
Date of experience: September 2018

Ask jrios4444 about Hard Rock Stadium

LOL at putting up a random review from BEFORE the roof was added.

 

[theibisrules]

this sucks for college games​

Review of Hard Rock Stadium
Reviewed October 2, 2018
the way the stadium sets up for college is totally wrong they amplify the sound of music constantly and it takes away from the college experience for the fans , they forget we are not there to hear guns and roses or hip hop we want to hear the sounds of the bands the student the refs the mascot etc.. also the pricing for food and beverages is the same as the pro games, exp 5 dollars for bottle water is ridiculous 12 dollars or more for a beer is also sick not to mention the price of food
Date of experience: September 2018

Ask jrios4444 about Hard Rock Stadium

Boom! Excellent post...hard rock offers no college GameDay experience.

 

[ssvir]

Boom! Excellent post...hard rock offers no college GameDay experience.

Where are your season tickets? If you don't have them the STFU

 

[HarpDawg]

I'd rather stay at the Rock

If only we had a super bowl caliber stadium located in the center of our fan base. And it had plenty of room for tailgating and good traffic options. Oh wait what about hard rock.

 

[theibisrules]

Where are your season tickets? If you don't have them the STFU

Very rational and mature talk with you man thanks. Still doesnt stop the fact that Stephen Ross doesnt care to give our kids a real COLLEGE gameday experience.

 

[rok]

LOL at putting up a random review from BEFORE the roof was added.

Since you're an expert, why don't you tell us what year the roof was added?

 

[rok]

Good lord you’re the master of conflation.

You are conflating the music they play in between plays, and/or time out distractions, which by the way are all generated or approved by the University of Miami, with the actual physical stadium and whether it’s worthwhile for football or not, which it most certainly is.

I know you’re in your rok shtick, but stop and think for a minute what you just wrote.

And for the record I think they need improvement in the between plays loudness or in what they choose to bombard the stadium speakers with, but that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about, if we had our own stadium, since the University Of Miami chose that, they would be doing exactly the same thing in our own stadium.

I'm just providing examples of why Ruiz and so many like him believe we need our own place. Song choices aside, all of the sound inside that place echoes because it's this huge building with high ceilings and the noise from the speakers never stops. Marlins park has a similar feel when the roof is closed and there's 10,000 fans inside. An echoey, cavernous building with mostly whine and cheese fans who remain seated most of the time.

 

[theibisrules]

I only have 2 questions about this move.

1) Who would own the stadium David Beckham or the city of Miami?

2) Can the stadium be colored black instead of pink?

 

[Squid Bumciorek]

You better find another stadium and another team to cheer for, because wherever we go, and it’s most likely we stay at hard rock anyway, but even if we change stadiums it’s never going to be a small town college experience. This is Miami. Not Oxford Mississippi or shlthole Gainesville.

The people that pay the money for season tickets want an upgraded experience. They don’t care about you wanting a small town atmosphere. They laugh at people like you. You don’t pay the bills. The big money people and the season ticket holders do.

Don't get me wrong, Joe Robbie (it will always be JRS to me, dammit) is a fine stadium but when the lease is up in 2032 or so, it will have been 15+ years since the last facelift. It's a modern stadium now, but it's going to be showing its age. Ross will almost certainly have passed on by then. What if the next ownership group drags its feet in upgrading? Not a **** thing UM can do about it. A lot of fans have forgotten that prior to the major renovations in the 2015-2017 time frame, the stadium was the butt of a lot of jokes because it was so outdated and sterile.

The current lease is a relative bargain at 4 million per year, but I would bet a box of donuts the next lease is going to be at least 8-10 million per year, likely for 15-20 years. So looking at a cost of somewhere between 150-200 million total to lease. That is roughly what it would cost to expand the planned stadium up from 30k seats to around 55k. If the overall cost between leasing and buying are in the same ballpark (puns!) I think it is a smarter long term decision to be co-owner of a brand new stadium. UM would have a lot more control over renovations, events, concessions, etc. plus it would be much closer to campus. There is something to be said about the simplicity of another 20 yr lease, but if the city has already approved the plans for a brand new soccer stadium, I think UM should jump on board.

 

[Empirical Cane]

I'd rather stay at the Rock

Then you clearly hate our Miami Hurricanes.

Anything LESS than a full on-campus stadium just shows a lack of committment to a winning football program.

Haters, like yourself for example, just don't realize how easy it will be to get approval. FFS, I could put the applications in today and have full approvals and permits by noon next Tuesday.

#GetOnBoardTheBusOrGetRunOverByTheBus

 

[Atom Atlas]

Don't get me wrong, Joe Robbie (it will always be JRS to me, dammit) is a fine stadium but when the lease is up in 2032 or so, it will have been 15+ years since the last facelift. It's a modern stadium now, but it's going to be showing its age. Ross will almost certainly have passed on by then. What if the next ownership group drags its feet in upgrading? Not a **** thing UM can do about it. A lot of fans have forgotten that prior to the major renovations in the 2015-2017 time frame, the stadium was the butt of a lot of jokes because it was so outdated and sterile.

The current lease is a relative bargain at 4 million per year, but I would bet a box of donuts the next lease is going to be at least 8-10 million per year, likely for 15-20 years. So looking at a cost of somewhere between 150-200 million total to lease. That is roughly what it would cost to expand the planned stadium up from 30k seats to around 55k. If the overall cost between leasing and buying are in the same ballpark (puns!) I think it is a smarter long term decision to be co-owner of a brand new stadium. UM would have a lot more control over renovations, events, concessions, etc. plus it would be much closer to campus. There is something to be said about the simplicity of another 20 yr lease, but if the city has already approved the plans for a brand new soccer stadium, I think UM should jump on board.

For me if we're gonna do something we should get our own place apart from everything else... No sharing... Get a Hurricanes only facility and let others rent from us.... With that said I doubt it happens unless someone like Ruiz really is willing to put his own cash up and do it... He says he will so let's see...
All these other deals I read about just don't do the Canes any favors... Feels like we're walking away from one unfavorable situation into another and paying out the wazoo to do so....

 

[canecrazy23]

This is just dead wrong as anybody that has ever been to the stadium, especially since the renovation, would tell you. Why are you just making things up? Even at around 45 or 50,000 the stadium feels very full. Any stadium at half capacity is gonna feel bigger. What are you even saying?

I gave up after he said that. Hard Rock with the roof is electric and the VT game proved that it doesn't even have to be sold out to be loud.

 

[rok]

The VT game was an awful look. The place was empty. The roof holds in noise but it still looks/feels like we're playing in a dystopian setting where most of the world's population has been wiped out and there's very few of us remaining.

 

[rok]

And a lot of those seats are empty because the sight-lines are awful. You're better off watching on one of 8,000 TVs inside the stadium. Even the marquee game on the schedule drew a lackluster crowd. The place is too **** big!