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Jaromir Jagr said:
He doesn't like to talk about the fact that we haven't won more than one game in Omaha since 2001.
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The question he's avoiding is what is the fielding percentage of the teams that have won a national title?
2018 Oregon State - .978
2017 Florida - ,981
2016 Coastal Carolina - .971
2015 Virginia - .974
2014 Vanderbilt - .979

We're nearly at the halfway point of the season. So, Miami is at .961 in fielding which that idiot thinks is just fine after all it's only 10 points less than 2016 champion Coastal Carolina.

Looking at this another way. There are a maximum of 54 fielding chances if there are no errors and every fielding chance requires an assist. Let's just say it's 50/50 on assists which makes it 40.5 chances per game (27 outs x 1.5 chances). Miami has played 28 games. That's 28 x 40.5 chances = 1,134 chances where there has been 44.23 errors which is 1.58 errors per game.

To get to .971 in the next 28 games, Miami would need: ( 56 x 40.5) = 2,268 chances with 2,202 successful. That's 65.77 errors total. For 1/2 of the season Miami has (1,134 x .961) = 1,089 successful fielding chances. To get to .971, Miami needs a 98.1% fielding percentage (2,202 - 1,089)/1134 for the remaining 28 games. Miami has committed 44.23 errors in the first 28 games. So, 65.77-44.23 = 21.54 remaining errors to get to .971 fielding. Basically, Miami would need to cut their errors in half to get to a .971 fielding percentage for the year. Not a small feat and certainly isn't trivial, but is doable.

To get to .980 in the next 28 games, Miami would need: ( 56 x 40.5) = 2,268 chances with 2,223 successful. That's 45.36 errors total. For 1/2 of the season Miami has (1,134 x .961) = 1,089 successful fielding chances. To get to .980, Miami needs a 100% fielding percentage (2,223 - 1,089)/1134 for the remaining 28 games. Miami has committed 44.23 errors in the first 28 games. So, 45.36-44.23 = 1.13 remaining errors to get to .980 fielding. Miami can commit only 1 error for the remaining 28 games to be at a 980 fielding percentage for the year. Nearly impossible.

For Miami to get to .971, they would have to field at a rate of .981 for the rest of the season. To get close to what 2017 national champion Florida did, Miami would have to field at 100 percent for the rest of the year making only 1 error for the remainder of the season. What this shows is how consistent you have to field for long periods to time to have a high fielding average. Separating the average fielding teams from the really good ones looks trivial, but it's not.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
The question he's avoiding is what is the fielding percentage of the teams that have won a national title?
2018 Oregon State - .978
2017 Florida - ,981
2016 Coastal Carolina - .971
2015 Virginia - .974
2014 Vanderbilt - .979

We're nearly at the halfway point of the season. So, Miami is at .961 in fielding which that idiot thinks is just fine after all it's only 10 points less than 2016 champion Coastal Carolina.

Looking at this another way. There are a maximum of 54 fielding chances if there are no errors and every fielding chance requires an assist. Let's just say it's 50/50 on assists which makes it 40.5 chances per game (27 outs x 1.5 chances). Miami has played 28 games. That's 28 x 40.5 chances = 1,134 chances where there has been 44.23 errors which is 1.58 errors per game.

To get to .971 in the next 28 games, Miami would need: ( 56 x 40.5) = 2,268 chances with 2,202 successful. That's 65.77 errors total. For 1/2 of the season Miami has (1,134 x .961) = 1,089 successful fielding chances. To get to .971, Miami needs a 98.1% fielding percentage (2,202 - 1,089)/1134 for the remaining 28 games. Miami has committed 44.23 errors in the first 28 games. So, 65.77-44.23 = 21.54 remaining errors to get to .971 fielding. Basically, Miami would need to cut their errors in half to get to a .971 fielding percentage for the year. Not a small feat and certainly isn't trivial, but is doable.

To get to .980 in the next 28 games, Miami would need: ( 56 x 40.5) = 2,268 chances with 2,223 successful. That's 45.36 errors total. For 1/2 of the season Miami has (1,134 x .961) = 1,089 successful fielding chances. To get to .980, Miami needs a 100% fielding percentage (2,223 - 1,089)/1134 for the remaining 28 games. Miami has committed 44.23 errors in the first 28 games. So, 45.36-44.23 = 1.13 remaining errors to get to .980 fielding. Miami can commit only 1 error for the remaining 28 games to be at a 980 fielding percentage for the year. Nearly impossible.

For Miami to get to .971, they would have to field at a rate of .981 for the rest of the season. To get close to what 2017 national champion Florida did, Miami would have to field at 100 percent for the rest of the year making only 1 error for the remainder of the season. What this shows is how consistent you have to field for long periods to time to have a high fielding average. Separating the average fielding teams from the really good ones looks trivial, but it's not.
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Am sorry, but who cares? Perez threw away two games in successive years against the Gators, but fielding has yet to adversely impact us.

Why do we need to get to 98% from 96%. Who cares?

UM has the youngest team in the NCAA. Of course there will be more errors.

I would trade the best hitting team in the ACC for the worst fielding team any day. If McKEndry starts pitching like he did last year and Veliz hits his 2017 stride, we are going to Omaha.

What is the fixation with errors?
 
canesproponent said:
Am sorry, but who cares? Perez threw away two games in successive years against the Gators, but fielding has yet to adversely impact us.

Why do we need to get to 98% from 96%. Who cares?

UM has the youngest team in the NCAA. Of course there will be more errors.

I would trade the best hitting team in the ACC for the worst fielding team any day. If McKEndry starts pitching like he did last year and Veliz hits his 2017 stride, we are going to Omaha.

What is the fixation with errors?
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Wow.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
The question he's avoiding is what is the fielding percentage of the teams that have won a national title?
2018 Oregon State - .978
2017 Florida - ,981
2016 Coastal Carolina - .971
2015 Virginia - .974
2014 Vanderbilt - .979
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I'm not avoiding it. I just understand that fielding percentage isn't the reason they won the championship. You're just really awful at logic.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
Looking at this another way. There are a maximum of 54 fielding chances if there are no errors and every fielding chance requires an assist. Let's just say it's 50/50 on assists which makes it 40.5 chances per game (27 outs x 1.5 chances). Miami has played 28 games. That's 28 x 40.5 chances = 1,134 chances where there has been 44.23 errors which is 1.58 errors per game.

To get to .971 in the next 28 games, Miami would need: ( 56 x 40.5) = 2,268 chances with 2,202 successful. That's 65.77 errors total. For 1/2 of the season Miami has (1,134 x .961) = 1,089 successful fielding chances. To get to .971, Miami needs a 98.1% fielding percentage (2,202 - 1,089)/1134 for the remaining 28 games. Miami has committed 44.23 errors in the first 28 games. So, 65.77-44.23 = 21.54 remaining errors to get to .971 fielding. Basically, Miami would need to cut their errors in half to get to a .971 fielding percentage for the year. Not a small feat and certainly isn't trivial, but is doable.

To get to .980 in the next 28 games, Miami would need: ( 56 x 40.5) = 2,268 chances with 2,223 successful. That's 45.36 errors total. For 1/2 of the season Miami has (1,134 x .961) = 1,089 successful fielding chances. To get to .980, Miami needs a 100% fielding percentage (2,223 - 1,089)/1134 for the remaining 28 games. Miami has committed 44.23 errors in the first 28 games. So, 45.36-44.23 = 1.13 remaining errors to get to .980 fielding. Miami can commit only 1 error for the remaining 28 games to be at a 980 fielding percentage for the year. Nearly impossible.
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This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

Only a truly insane person would waste this much time proving something that is absolutely meaningless. As if Miami needs to have a .971 fielding percentage to win a championship.

No, they don't numbnuts.
 
"You're just really awful at logic."

Logic has nothing to do with it. Some times a team has weak regional and super regional opponents. Or the other teams they play go into a slump. The point is we have not played for the championship for several years. Just because we lucked out and made it to Omaha in a couple of instances, does not mean we will repeat it this year or any other year. The only way we get to Omaha this year is for this team to make a 100% turn around, win the ACC tourney, regionals and super regionals. If you think the Canes can do it this year, get on the next plane to Vegas and put your money on the canes to win it all. I'm sure you can get some very good odds on your bet.
 
HRIKN said:
"You're just really awful at logic."

Logic has nothing to do with it. Some times a team has weak regional and super regional opponents. Or the other teams they play go into a slump. The point is we have not played for the championship for several years. Just because we lucked out and made it to Omaha in a couple of instances, does not mean we will repeat it this year or any other year. The only way we get to Omaha this year is for this team to make a 100% turn around, win the ACC tourney, regionals and super regionals. If you think the Canes can do it this year, get on the next plane to Vegas and put your money on the canes to win it all. I'm sure you can get some very good odds on your bet.
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He thinks the last ten years is a small sample size, but he will certainly point out 2015 and 2016 as proof that Jim Morris still had it.
 
HRIKN said:
Just because we lucked out and made it to Omaha in a couple of instances, does not mean we will repeat it this year or any other year.
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Luck had nothing to do with the Omaha appearances in 2015 and 2016.

There goes that awful logic again.
 
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Peter Gibbons said:
Luck had nothing to do with the Omaha appearances in 2015 and 2016.

There goes that awful logic again.
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Playing Virginia Commonwealth and Boston College is the definition of luck. Don't get me wrong, Florida has also been lucky, getting the chance to play Miami so many times over the last ten years.
 
HRIKN said:
The only way we get to Omaha this year is for this team to make a 100% turn around, win the ACC tourney, regionals and super regionals.
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The level of dumb on this board is astonishing.

So 100% turnaround which would presume that this team was totally awful (which it's not)

And...

Win the ACC Tourney (which isn't required)

Neither of those things needs to happen for this team to go to Omaha.
 
Jaromir Jagr said:
Playing Virginia Commonwealth and Boston College is the definition of luck.
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No, it's not.

Those Miami teams were national seeds that would've been heavy favorites against anybody they faced. Those teams getting to Omaha in any circumstance isn't luck.
 
Peter Gibbons said:
No, it's not.

Those Miami teams were national seeds that would've been heavy favorites against anybody they faced. Those teams getting to Omaha in any circumstance isn't luck.
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We know it was luck because of how those Miami teams performed as soon as they weren't playing #3 and #4 seeds.
 
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Jaromir Jagr said:
Do I need to show you the evidence, again?
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Your evidence is, of course, never evidence.

Saying that the 2016 team went 0-2 in Omaha so therefore they would've lost before that if they hadn't played #3 and #4 seeds is illogical.

No amount of your dumb arguments can overcome that.
 
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Peter Gibbons said:
Your evidence is, of course, never evidence.

Saying that the 2016 team went 0-2 in Omaha so therefore they would've lost before that if they hadn't played #3 and #4 seeds is illogical.

No amount of your dumb arguments can overcome that.
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Ten years' worth of data. Ten years. But that's a small sample size considering the age of the earth.
 
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