OT: Corruption in NCAA BBAll

[Consigliere]

Yes, there is good and bad here. The bad is that they have evidence that the adidas guy called Coach 3. The good is that he has not yet been arrested, we are not getting Quickley, and I would imagine that no actual money changed hands for a deal that did not go through.

But...the NCAA would LOVE to have a second crack at us.

From my understanding, this evidence doesn't exist.

1. They don't mention they have the Miami coach on tape or email.

2. They only speak that the Miami coach knew and blessed these payments.

The NCAA has done more with less. We might not face the FBI but the NCAA is going to go in raw

The NCAA has no power. These defendants named in the complaint have no reason to talk to the NCAA.

You have the following (according to the complaint):

- Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit.

- At this point, there is no evidence of this conversation.

- The 2018 Recruit didn't go to Miami.

- There is no evidence that the payment even took place.

Won't be very hard to prove under federal oath. All this dude has to say is "yes it happened." You think Coach 3 will lie under oath? Do you think the NCAA won't use a federal testimony against us as their evidence? I do.

How would the coach know? Did he witness the payment? Did he count the money? Funnel it? Who said anything about the coach lying? What happens if the FBI doesn't call on him to testify?

At this point, they only have the coach being spoken about in the complaint.

 

[Consigliere]

Yes, there is good and bad here. The bad is that they have evidence that the adidas guy called Coach 3. The good is that he has not yet been arrested, we are not getting Quickley, and I would imagine that no actual money changed hands for a deal that did not go through.

But...the NCAA would LOVE to have a second crack at us.

From my understanding, this evidence doesn't exist.

1. They don't mention they have the Miami coach on tape or email.

2. They only speak that the Miami coach knew and blessed these payments.

The NCAA has done more with less. We might not face the FBI but the NCAA is going to go in raw

The NCAA has no power. These defendants named in the complaint have no reason to talk to the NCAA.

You have the following (according to the complaint):

- Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit.

- At this point, there is no evidence of this conversation.

- The 2018 Recruit didn't go to Miami.

- There is no evidence that the payment even took place.

The 2018 recruit is Nas Little (he is player 12 in the report). He is still unsigned, but per the report, he and his camped hatched a bidding war between Arizona and Miami. He asked for $150K to sign on the dotted line

Nas Little is the only 2018 recruit with both Miami and Arizona among his final choices.

Did he go to Miami?

 

[deleted1998]

Unless they have that coach on the tap or writing these guys it'll be pretty hard to implicate him. Especially considering the payoff almost certainly never happened.

Did it happen? Probably. Can they prove the coach was in on it? Probably not.

Miami will say that they told Adidas they wanted the kid, but never said to bribe him. It's all hearsay unless there's more evidence the feds are holding onto.

According to my people in loserville, they do have wire taps, allegedly.

Right. But if the wiretaps and transcripts had COACH-3 on them, he would be in bracelets right now.

It looks like the taps have other people TALKING about Coach-3. And there are phone records of calls, minus the conversations and transcripts.

So it appears bad, and yet there is a distinction between the treatment. Unless those charged can serve up some SOLID evidence on Coach-3, then it certainly appears that UM may be able to dodge a direct hit, since there is obviously not enough evidence (at this time) to charge Coach-3.

Why were some asst. coaches already arrested and others not? Could Coach 3 be telling info to FBI?

Or is it possible that Coach-3 was not as involved or responsible as the other coaches?

Again, there are POSSIBLE distinctions here. Is it wrong for an assistant to tell our shoe company that a rival shoe company is buying a recruit that we want? No. Is it wrong for that assistant to direct a similar monetary offer to be made? Absolutely.

Let's get some more info before we finalize all of our opinions.

This can't be said enough.

 

[Consigliere]

What does this mean? - "Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit."

The defendants named in the complaint made it seem like the Miami coach wanted them to pay the 2018 Recruit. Here are the exact quotes the defendants said about the Miami Coach (remember this isn't the Miami coach talking)...

- "Coach X Knows Everything."
- Coach X "knows something gotta happen for it get done."

 

[1mg of Epi]

As everyone knows, RVACane, The Franchise and myself are attorneys by profession. We are looking into this.

Not sure what RVA asked...but what criminal statutes exist making it a crime to pay a kid to do something not illegal?

 

[tcgrad1014]

According to my people in loserville, they do have wire taps, allegedly.

Right. But if the wiretaps and transcripts had COACH-3 on them, he would be in bracelets right now.

It looks like the taps have other people TALKING about Coach-3. And there are phone records of calls, minus the conversations and transcripts.

So it appears bad, and yet there is a distinction between the treatment. Unless those charged can serve up some SOLID evidence on Coach-3, then it certainly appears that UM may be able to dodge a direct hit, since there is obviously not enough evidence (at this time) to charge Coach-3.

Why were some asst. coaches already arrested and others not? Could Coach 3 be telling info to FBI?

Or is it possible that Coach-3 was not as involved or responsible as the other coaches?

Again, there are POSSIBLE distinctions here. Is it wrong for an assistant to tell our shoe company that a rival shoe company is buying a recruit that we want? No. Is it wrong for that assistant to direct a similar monetary offer to be made? Absolutely.

Let's get some more info before we finalize all of our opinions.

This can't be said enough.

This is fair.

 

[FMCANE]

What does this mean? - "Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit."

The defendants named in the complaint made it seem like the Miami coach wanted them to pay the 2018 Recruit. Here are the exact quotes the defendants said about the Miami Coach (remember this isn't the Miami coach talking)...

- "Coach X Knows Everything."
- Coach X "knows something gotta happen for it get done."

Thank you. Are the "defendants" addidas reps., other schools' assistant coaches, or someone else?

 

[Consigliere]

What does this mean? - "Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit."

The defendants named in the complaint made it seem like the Miami coach wanted them to pay the 2018 Recruit. Here are the exact quotes the defendants said about the Miami Coach (remember this isn't the Miami coach talking)...

- "Coach X Knows Everything."
- Coach X "knows something gotta happen for it get done."

Thank you. Are the "defendants" addidas reps., other schools' assistant coaches, or someone else?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998751/download

 

[Notsince1985]

At this point, I just can't waste my energy worrying about this.

 

[cooks002]

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Time is a flat circle...

 

[The Svengali]

From my understanding, this evidence doesn't exist.

1. They don't mention they have the Miami coach on tape or email.

2. They only speak that the Miami coach knew and blessed these payments.

The NCAA has done more with less. We might not face the FBI but the NCAA is going to go in raw

The NCAA has no power. These defendants named in the complaint have no reason to talk to the NCAA.

You have the following (according to the complaint):

- Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit.

- At this point, there is no evidence of this conversation.

- The 2018 Recruit didn't go to Miami.

- There is no evidence that the payment even took place.

The 2018 recruit is Nas Little (he is player 12 in the report). He is still unsigned, but per the report, he and his camped hatched a bidding war between Arizona and Miami. He asked for $150K to sign on the dotted line

Nas Little is the only 2018 recruit with both Miami and Arizona among his final choices.

Did he go to Miami?

No, Little is still unsigned--he is ranked in the top 10. Pretty safe

It's going to be interesting if he will now have NCAA eligibility issues

 

[jhtheking]

The NCAA has done more with less. We might not face the FBI but the NCAA is going to go in raw

The NCAA has no power. These defendants named in the complaint have no reason to talk to the NCAA.

You have the following (according to the complaint):

- Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit.

- At this point, there is no evidence of this conversation.

- The 2018 Recruit didn't go to Miami.

- There is no evidence that the payment even took place.

The 2018 recruit is Nas Little (he is player 12 in the report). He is still unsigned, but per the report, he and his camped hatched a bidding war between Arizona and Miami. He asked for $150K to sign on the dotted line

Nas Little is the only 2018 recruit with both Miami and Arizona among his final choices.

Did he go to Miami?

No, Little is still unsigned--he is ranked in the top 10. Pretty safe

It's going to be interesting if he will now have NCAA eligibility issues

He's supposed to visit us this weekend.. feel like that's not gonna happen anymore

 

[brock]

The NCAA has done more with less. We might not face the FBI but the NCAA is going to go in raw

The NCAA has no power. These defendants named in the complaint have no reason to talk to the NCAA.

You have the following (according to the complaint):

- Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit.

- At this point, there is no evidence of this conversation.

- The 2018 Recruit didn't go to Miami.

- There is no evidence that the payment even took place.

The 2018 recruit is Nas Little (he is player 12 in the report). He is still unsigned, but per the report, he and his camped hatched a bidding war between Arizona and Miami. He asked for $150K to sign on the dotted line

Nas Little is the only 2018 recruit with both Miami and Arizona among his final choices.

Did he go to Miami?

No, Little is still unsigned--he is ranked in the top 10. Pretty safe

It's going to be interesting if he will now have NCAA eligibility issues

Seems like it all but a done deal that he won’t play college ball

 

[Notsince1985]

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Time is a flat circle...

Of course he was

 

[FMCANE]

What does this mean? - "Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit."

The defendants named in the complaint made it seem like the Miami coach wanted them to pay the 2018 Recruit. Here are the exact quotes the defendants said about the Miami Coach (remember this isn't the Miami coach talking)...

- "Coach X Knows Everything."
- Coach X "knows something gotta happen for it get done."

Thank you. Are the "defendants" addidas reps., other schools' assistant coaches, or someone else?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/998751/download

Thank you. Will try to decipher. Wish I had my college legal studies book.

 

[brock]

Brad Augustine Director of the 1family aau basketball program implicated
2 of his kids on the team
5 star 2018 Nasir little( Miami and Arizona)
5 star 2019 balsa koprivica(louisville)
All are indirectly named in the report

 

[Tad Footeball]

What does this mean? - "Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit."

Why would an apparel company need the blessing of an assistant coach? Wouldn't they just funnel the money on their own and keep the process as streamlined as possible? It'd make much more sense if the assistant was going TO the apparel company not vice versa.

 

[FMCANE]

OK lawyer people, why aren't the universities named in the indictment? Why state University 6 (loserville, allegedly) and (University 7 Miami, allegedly)?

"Jerry Iannelli‏ [MENTION=5719]jer[/MENTION]ryiannelli 4m4 minutes ago
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FBI indictment says a coach at a private Florida university believed to be UM told Adidas to pay a recruit $150,000"

Oh my, uh oh!

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

OK lawyer people, why aren't the universities named in the indictment? Why state University 6 (loserville, allegedly) and (University 7 Miami, allegedly)?

Because they're not behind indicted or charged.

 

[tcgrad1014]

The NCAA has no power. These defendants named in the complaint have no reason to talk to the NCAA.

You have the following (according to the complaint):

- Some defendants talking about a Miami coach blessing a payment to a 2018 Recruit.

- At this point, there is no evidence of this conversation.

- The 2018 Recruit didn't go to Miami.

- There is no evidence that the payment even took place.

The 2018 recruit is Nas Little (he is player 12 in the report). He is still unsigned, but per the report, he and his camped hatched a bidding war between Arizona and Miami. He asked for $150K to sign on the dotted line

Nas Little is the only 2018 recruit with both Miami and Arizona among his final choices.

Did he go to Miami?

No, Little is still unsigned--he is ranked in the top 10. Pretty safe

It's going to be interesting if he will now have NCAA eligibility issues

He's supposed to visit us this weekend.. feel like that's not gonna happen anymore

If I was Nasir Little I'd be packing my bags for Europe right about now.