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Canesmia01 said:
Wins didn’t matter for us the last two classes.
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Selling the future. Why you think Mario is trying to actually win this year? Because you can’t keep selling the future in year 3 you actually have to start showing something on the field
 
252cane said:
Selling the future. Why you think Mario is trying to actually win this year? Because you can’t keep selling the future in year 3 you actually have to start showing something on the field
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Right. So wins didn’t matter. Something else did. Money and selling the future matter too.
 
Elmer Leghorn said:
It's always about money đź’°
I've been told by a few different people on this board that our pockets are as deep as the big boys. Well, if true, we need to pay up. We are seeing that winning isn't the cure....it always circles back to money. Pay up, or lose out. Wiley is looking for the biggest payday. Can you blame him? I'd change companies within my industry if someone offered me an additional 100k. Even if they sucked
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There's clearly a budget.

We might have deep pockets, but if Florida are throwing what remains of their budget at this kid, for example, we're always going to be outbid when we've got several big fish still on the line.
 
Canesmia01 said:
Right. So wins didn’t matter. Something else did. Money and selling the future matter too.
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Selling winning in the future. Wins matter. Why don’t bad teams consistently recruit at a high level?
 
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hoops156 said:
tbf, if youre a parent joining a message board and commenting daily (to make yourself public and not just lurking), you already know what a message board is like in terms of the stuff said. if that is going to impact where you go, then you may as well never enroll in a college outside of the ivys where it isnt taken seriously.
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Yeah but neither the kid nor parent has said or did anything on toward to deserve bs just for the sake of “I’m just keeping it real”. A message board is a message board but common sense and self awareness should still be applied no?
 
252cane said:
Records absolutely matter. How they have played recently is helping them. Then they beat lsu with a bunch of recruits there and then they throwing money around. Easy for him to sell lagway and winning and that bag. They had the money early in the season but they looked terrible and had no momentum. They looked better lately and won a few games now the vibe is different
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Bruh they lost 5 games and beat trash teams and showed no progress for three seasons. Got absolutely murdered by us, miss me with progress. We would be flying banners if Mario did what Billy did for three seasons.
 
Personally, I believe these recruits are using UF to bid up the NIL knowing they have to pay the suck tax. I don't think they'll go to UF though. I think schools like Miami, Bama, UGA, Taint, Oregon, etc will say they'll match, or they'll even pay slightly less than UF, knowing no one wants to go to UF except some locals and legacies. I think money matters to recruits, but not so much they'll go to a ****** program if any other winning / quality culture program is in the ballpark. ... Again, let's see.
 
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252cane said:
Selling winning in the future. Wins matter. Why don’t bad teams consistently recruit at a high level?
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Bad teams are usually bad because they lack financial investment in football. There are some bad teams that recruit well. Bad teams like auburn are recruiting great. They are throwing tons of money around. Good for them. I think you are splitting hairs with my argument anyway. Wins matter but if you lose a ton of games and can sell a recruit on winning in the future, I don’t really view that the same as landing recruits due to winning.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Bruh they lost 5 games and beat trash teams and showed no progress for three seasons. Got absolutely murdered by us, miss me with progress. We would be flying banners if Mario did what Billy did for three seasons.
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These are kids we talking bout man. lol they not dissecting all of that. The narrative out there is that uf has looked and been playing better and then recruits was there for the lsu game. Add a bag and lagway on top of that
 
252cane said:
These are kids we talking bout man. lol they not dissecting all of that. The narrative out there is that uf has looked and been playing better and then recruits was there for the lsu game. Add a bag and lagway on top of that
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Bruh kids know if someone legit. Lagway looks aight he’s not a guaranteed superstar from what I have seen. It’s bags LCE said it Dmoney said it it’s bags bruh
 
Dwinstitles said:
Bruh kids know if someone legit. Lagway looks aight he’s not a guaranteed superstar from what I have seen. It’s bags LCE said it Dmoney said it it’s bags bruh
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Neither one have said it’s just pure bags. Miami
Is one of the top nil schools so why haven’t we reached that elite level recruiting yet? Mario is known as a elite recruiter and why do you think he is putting a emphasis on winning this year?
 
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252cane said:
Neither one have said it’s just pure bags. Miami
Is one of the top nil schools so why haven’t we reached that elite level recruiting yet? Mario is known as a elite recruiter and why do you think he is putting a emphasis on winning this year?
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ight bruh
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
A coach who was hired to recruit, to actually recruit and not use “needing to focus on winning” as an excuse to push back visits. As I said Mario can’t draw up any play except inside zone. And he cant draw up a single defensive play. So what’s he focusing on? He spending all week writing his ra ra go team pregame speech?
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Do you have any idea what goes into a recruiting weekend? It's not just the head coach hanging out with the player over a nice dinner. It involves the staff, the team, activities, etc. Mario is absolutely right in wanting the PROGRAM to focus on the next two weeks, which may as well be playoff games, and realizing that in doing so the wouldn't be able to give recruits the full recruiting weekend experience they deserve.
 
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dk72 said:
UF would be a perfect example of recruits accepting a toxic environment for more money. Short term thinking that could have longer term negative consequences.
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Nah get it when you can. I would have to agree with the recruit. Make what u can now cause you may never get it again. Especially if you flame out
 
Dwinstitles said:
I don’t get it bruh. Like his dad is literally in this thread. Any other time go ahead man criticize Mario, but imo it ain’t smart to do that in this thread. But freedom of speech man let them do them. We can’t stop it. I for one know he recruits his *** off and is a good program builder. I wouldn’t trade these past three recruiting cycles for the **** show effort of all the past coaches besides BD.

All those other coaches recruiting was like amateurs compared to where we at now on the trail. And it still isn’t good enough yet, but it can get there with the effort and some patience. These are our best classes ever since Butch
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U talkin dat **** now @Dwinstitles ! Ur absolutely right
 
Dwinstitles said:
Bruh they lost 5 games and beat trash teams and showed no progress for three seasons. Got absolutely murdered by us, miss me with progress. We would be flying banners if Mario did what Billy did for three seasons.
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He's got a point. We would have murdered Mario if he went for a 3rd straight year with another under 7 wins team
 
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