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[Pentagon Cane]

Braylon Braxton - Football - Tulsa

Braylon Braxton (1) Quarterback - TULSA – A two-year letterwinner … played in 19 career games with eight starts … completed 114-of-219 passes for 1,345 yards...

tulsahurricane.com

JaCobian Morgan - Football - Syracuse University Athletics

JaCobian Morgan (15) Quarterback - Career Overview: Started at quarterback as a true freshman for portions of the 2020 season ... Seventh true freshman in Sy...

cuse.com

Darius Wilson - 2024 - Football - William & Mary Athletics

Darius Wilson (11) QB - JUNIOR YEAR (2023) Started all 10 games in which he appeared … Ranked sixth in the CAA in completion percentage (60.4) … Finished the season

tribeathletics.com

Miles Hastings - Football - UC Davis Athletics

Miles Hastings (7) Quarterback - - 2023 Walter Payton Award Preseason Watch List - 2022 Hero Sports Sophomore All-American - 2022 All-Big Sky Conference First

ucdavisaggies.com

They may be in the portal, but they come here to sit a year. Love to grab one but it is a tough ask. Our best shot is picking up a QB in the December 2023 portal and have them compete for the starting job in spring.

 

[grover]

I think he could be, but it would behoove Mario and Co to bring in a veteran to compete for starter.

Hopefully next year the room looks like:

Brown - RS Sophomore
Emory - Sophomore
Insert Veteran Here
Judd - FR
Insert 2nd ‘24 recruit here

The PWO Lawrence stashed away

Someone will transfer out if they group when the dust settles but we need a wide range in the group competing fresh for #1.

Dream scenario TVD has a very good year but not quite one of the top QBs and decides to stay focusing on a possible round 1-2 draft grade for the ‘25 draft. If this is the case we could not worry about bringing in the veteran portal option.

Agree with all the above except Emory. I would like to see him redshirt. The only circumstances where it makes sense to burn his shirt are 1. TVD gets hurt (Lord help us) or 2. we run up the score in more than 8 games, since Brown and Williams each can play in 4 games before they lose their redshirt. I mean, I'd take option #2 all day every day, but it's unlikely.

 

[DMoney]

Let’s end this argument right here.

Four out of the last six Heisman QBs were transfers.

Now take a look at the odds for next year’s Heisman. Five of the six quarterbacks are transfers.

The NFL tells a similar story. In the last five drafts, 33% of the QBs drafted have been transfers. That is a higher percentage than blue-chip signees (31%). And remember, most of this is before the Portal era opened up.

Anybody trying to downplay the QB talent in the Portal is wrong. And their argument will get worse every year.

 

[grover]

Braylon Braxton - Football - Tulsa

Braylon Braxton (1) Quarterback - TULSA – A two-year letterwinner … played in 19 career games with eight starts … completed 114-of-219 passes for 1,345 yards...

tulsahurricane.com

JaCobian Morgan - Football - Syracuse University Athletics

JaCobian Morgan (15) Quarterback - Career Overview: Started at quarterback as a true freshman for portions of the 2020 season ... Seventh true freshman in Sy...

cuse.com

Darius Wilson - 2024 - Football - William & Mary Athletics

Darius Wilson (11) QB - JUNIOR YEAR (2023) Started all 10 games in which he appeared … Ranked sixth in the CAA in completion percentage (60.4) … Finished the season

tribeathletics.com

Miles Hastings - Football - UC Davis Athletics

Miles Hastings (7) Quarterback - - 2023 Walter Payton Award Preseason Watch List - 2022 Hero Sports Sophomore All-American - 2022 All-Big Sky Conference First

ucdavisaggies.com

I know most kids would want to keep playing. But there's a pretty nice argument to learn behind TVD and be in the pole position to be the starting QB behind one of the better OL in football a year later.

 

[grover]

Let’s end this argument right here.

Four out of the last six Heisman QBs came from the Portal.

Now take a look at the odds for next year’s Heisman. Five of the six quarterbacks are transfers.

The NFL tells a similar story. In the last five drafts, 33% of the QBs drafted have been transfers. That is a higher percentage than blue-chip signees (31%). And remember, most of this is before the Portal era opened up.

Anybody trying to downplay the QB talent in the Portal is wrong. And their argument will get worse every year.

You can go back to before Rashada committed and we were talking about NIL money for him. I was against it for exactly this reason. He didn't seem worth it to me. Find one "next 5" or two "Next 15" QBs and if they don't pan out, use the NIL for a top portal QB. This strategy makes more sense every day given we're seeing kids move colleges annually now.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

Too soon to give up on Jaccuri. His athleticism is off the charts and he has a strong arm. Accuracy and reading defenses will be the key (easier said than done). If Dawson develops him, watch out. The kid is a gamer and wants to be great. He will put in the work. No doubt.

JB had a great spring, made a big leap, played well, impressed the coaches in practice and the scrimmages. All spring. Wild to watch fans in here write him off because he had a bad day in a vanilla spring game working primarily with the 2nd team OL and WR groups who were basically 3rd team groups due to injuries/roster. Not making excuses, he had a bad day. Day. Wild.

 

[gogeta4]

I know most kids would want to keep playing. But there's a pretty nice argument to learn behind TVD and be in the pole position to be the starting QB behind one of the better OL in football a year later.

Thats what i would sell and some NIL money. Not a big bag but those kiods from the lower level aint getting ANYTHING..30-50k Might make them move.

Hellt wo of those guys are already in the portal.

WE CANNOT go with what we have and risk the injury of TVD...we need someone with playing experience to log some reps. They should be scouring and back channelling harder than they did for a wr/dt.

 

[gogeta4]

JB had a great spring, made a big leap, played well, impressed the coaches in practice and the scrimmages. All spring. Wild to watch fans in here write him off because he had a bad day in a vanilla spring game working primarily with the 2nd team OL and WR groups who were basically 3rd team groups due to injuries/roster. Not making excuses, he had a bad day. Day. Wild.

We saw him play last year and honestly a redshirt would only HELP his development moving forward...meaning he still can play in 4 games though....but he needs that extra year to possibly be a 2 yr starter for us.
Kid himself wants a sh*rt.

 

[BoxingRobes]

Thats what i would sell and some NIL money. Not a big bag but those kiods from the lower level aint getting ANYTHING..30-50k Might make them move.

Hellt wo of those guys are already in the portal.

WE CANNOT go with what we have and risk the injury of TVD...we need someone with playing experience to log some reps. They should be scouring and back channelling harder than they did for a wr/dt.

I'd be circling back on Hayden Wolff until he blocked our number. He's not great - probably mid, but a in-state guy with starting experience and he's got two years to play. Year 1, backup and one injury away from a QB who was injured all last year from being a P5 starter and then next year he's in line to compete for the starting job.

There are better names that will likely be available in the portal...but he just seems like the type of guy that would fit for this year.

 

[Zanecane]

Let’s end this argument right here.

Four out of the last six Heisman QBs were transfers.

Now take a look at the odds for next year’s Heisman. Five of the six quarterbacks are transfers.

The NFL tells a similar story. In the last five drafts, 33% of the QBs drafted have been transfers. That is a higher percentage than blue-chip signees (31%). And remember, most of this is before the Portal era opened up.

Anybody trying to downplay the QB talent in the Portal is wrong. And their argument will get worse every year.

All four of them transferred to play for exact same head coach did they not?

If I was cheering for USC this argument works.

but we aren’t USC and Mario definitely isn’t the head coach elite transfer QB’s want to play for.

 

[01Canes]

This was not a good year at all for teams that needed a QB through the portal and it should’ve really opened some people’s eyes as to how it should not be viewed as some full blown replacement “strategy” that would somehow justify punting on blue-chip QB recruiting (which our staff is NOT doing but has yet to get ideal results), especially when your head coach’s reputation with QB’s is the polar opposite of the coach who’s had, by far, the most success with QB’s in the portal.

Leary landed at Kentucky for his fifth year of eligibility instead of entering the draft for a reason. When Alabama failed to lure Drake Maye or TVD, they had to settle for the QB that Notre Dame was so dissatisfied with that they themselves brought in Hartman from Wake to supplant him. Anyone want to end up like UF and trot out someone like Graham Mertz next season?

Some here are vastly underestimating how much of a bidding war will take place when/if a Maalik Murphy caliber QB hits the portal next offseason. And a player who will have that many options and countless NIL offers to choose from is no less of a dogfight to try to land than a top 50-100 overall QB recruit.

 

[01Canes]

All four of them transferred to play for exact same head coach did they not?

If I was cheering for USC this argument works.

but we aren’t USC and Mario definitely isn’t the head coach elite transfer QB’s want to play for.

Caleb Williams sure as **** did. Including him as a notch on the transfer side without also acknowledging that he followed the coach who recruited him out of HS to his new job is ridiculous.

Williams chose to play for Riley when he came out of high school and stayed attached at the hip with him all the way. No other program realistically had a chance to land him.

The last 2 Heisman winners won their trophy with the head coach who recruited him out of high school. 3 of the last 6 played for Lincoln Riley and the last time I checked, he’s not our coach. Our coach’s lone portal QB addition was Anthony Brown at Oregon, not a program changer like Burrow or Fields. Is that what we’re striving for?

 

[mossmadness]

Let’s end this argument right here.

Four out of the last six Heisman QBs were transfers.

Now take a look at the odds for next year’s Heisman. Five of the six quarterbacks are transfers.

The NFL tells a similar story. In the last five drafts, 33% of the QBs drafted have been transfers. That is a higher percentage than blue-chip signees (31%). And remember, most of this is before the Portal era opened up.

Anybody trying to downplay the QB talent in the Portal is wrong. And their argument will get worse every year.

Where did those Heisman winning QBs rank coming out of high school?

Is the argument that they are too risky in terms of a bust rate, or too risky in terms of them staying?

But if you have a bunch of big time QBs transferring, chances are it’s because you are landing so many big time QBs out of high school, you have one starting for you.

 

[DMoney]

All four of them transferred to play for exact same head coach did they not?

Nope. Burrow.

And that doesn’t get into Fields, Hooker, Levis, Penix, Travis, Nix, Ewers and more.

There are already more transfer QBs being drafted than blue-chippers and the Portal hasn’t even been revved up that long.

 

[gogeta4]

I'd be circling back on Hayden Wolff until he blocked our number. He's not great - probably mid, but a in-state guy with starting experience and he's got two years to play. Year 1, backup and one injury away from a QB who was injured all last year from being a P5 starter and then next year he's in line to compete for the starting job.

There are better names that will likely be available in the portal...but he just seems like the type of guy that would fit for this year.

He committed to western michigan i believe last week.
Wolff seemed to want to come back to fla but looks like we didnt go after him.

Hes the one i wanted out the portal selling him on a step up in comp, nil, and sr starter spot 2 years in the o

 

[mossmadness]

This was not a good year at all for teams that needed a QB through the portal and it should’ve really opened some people’s eyes as to how it should not be viewed as some full blown replacement “strategy” that would somehow justify punting on blue-chip QB recruiting (which our staff is NOT doing but has yet to get ideal results), especially when your head coach’s reputation with QB’s is the polar opposite of the coach who’s had, by far, the most success with QB’s in the portal.

Leary landed at Kentucky for his fifth year of eligibility instead of entering the draft for a reason. When Alabama failed to lure Drake Maye or TVD, they had to settle for the QB that Notre Dame was so dissatisfied with that they themselves brought in Hartman from Wake to supplant him. Anyone want to end up like UF and trot out someone like Graham Mertz next season?

Some here are vastly underestimating how much of a bidding war will take place when/if a Maalik Murphy caliber QB hits the portal next offseason. And a player who will have that many options and countless NIL offers to choose from is no less of a dogfight to try to land than a top 50-100 overall QB recruit.

Yep.

Neither of the two best QBs in the portal this year could just go pro. They are nice, solid QBs. They aren’t game changers. They aren’t keeping Kirby Smart up at night.

Not to mention how much a lack of big time QB recruit is going to hurt recruiting.

Miami going on the trail and telling elite recruits every cycle, “you should want to play with this nobody developmental 3*. And don’t worry if he works out. We’ll land some portal guy in the future,” is basically Miami recruiting with one armed tied behind its back.

 

[407cane]

All four of them transferred to play for exact same head coach did they not?

If I was cheering for USC this argument works.

but we aren’t USC and Mario definitely isn’t the head coach elite transfer QB’s want to play for.

why isn't Mario the HC a portal player wouldn't want to play for?

he's gone off his normal script and hired an air raid disciple QB

we have John Ruiz and one of the best NIL situations in the country

and we're located near south beach

we've proven no issue in getting top tier talent to transfer, even when Manny was the HC, most notably d'eriq king

 

[DMoney]

Where did those Heisman winning QBs rank coming out of high school?

Is the argument that they are too risky in terms of a bust rate, or too risky in terms of them staying?

But if you have a bunch of big time QBs transferring, chances are it’s because you are landing so many big time QBs out of high school, you have one starting for you.

There is no ROI. Seventy percent of the kids leave and very few make the NFL for the team that signed them. It’s not a smart way to allocate money.

 

[DMoney]

This was not a good year at all for teams that needed a QB through the portal and it should’ve really opened some people’s eyes as to how it should not be viewed as some full blown replacement “strategy” that would somehow justify punting on blue-chip QB recruiting (which our staff is NOT doing but has yet to get ideal results), especially when your head coach’s reputation with QB’s is the polar opposite of the coach who’s had, by far, the most success with QB’s in the portal.

Leary landed at Kentucky for his fifth year of eligibility instead of entering the draft for a reason. When Alabama failed to lure Drake Maye or TVD, they had to settle for the QB that Notre Dame was so dissatisfied with that they themselves brought in Hartman from Wake to supplant him. Anyone want to end up like UF and trot out someone like Graham Mertz next season?

Some here are vastly underestimating how much of a bidding war will take place when/if a Maalik Murphy caliber QB hits the portal next offseason. And a player who will have that many options and countless NIL offers to choose from is no less of a dogfight to try to land than a top 50-100 overall QB recruit.

Devin Leary threw 35 TDs and 5 INTs in our league.

He didn’t go pro because he got hurt and played 6 games. Alabama fumbled by not going after him.

 

[mossmadness]

Nope. Burrow.

And that doesn’t get into Fields, Hooker, Levis, Penix, Travis, Nix, Ewers and more.

There are already more transfer QBs being drafted than blue-chippers and the Portal hasn’t even been revved up that long.

Hooker had a **** good season. But playing in the Veer and Shoot is like a cheat code in college.

You really can’t have us banking on VT rejects that were last seen having the shakes on the sideline as a legit strategy?

Nix would have been the same thing.

Ewers hasn’t really done much yet, and is a lot like Caleb Williams, in that he wasn’t actually available for anybody else in the portal.