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Ryanmilli said:
I am very much a novice, so forgive me for what is likely a dumb question. But why is he playing outside leverage in both clips as boundary corner with no safety help? Wouldn’t he be playing inside leverage with no safety help to at least have the sideline as the help defender? I feel like I saw this at least a dozen times in the Syracuse game, including on 1-2 TDs.

It’s tough for me to believe that every single one of our DBs is so clueless they have no idea what to do 12 games in. Something is not connecting.
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Because it's Cover 4 Man, with the Corners playing Quarters coverage.

The Safeties are covering the Double Dig Crossing patterns against Trips left formation (3 WR's to the left hash, with the Z & the Y both running Digs across the face of the Defense).

Bissainthe does a good job of picking up the underneath coverage & passing him off to the Safety, who has eyes on the QB to watch for if the WR breaks his stem or if the X throttles down for a Curl or a Comeback.

Meesh picked up his man perfectly & so did Romanas.

The only person who made a mistake on that play was Damari.

He's in Quarters playing Press Man, he's not supposed to, nor does he need Safety help. All he had to do was not spin backside towards the sideline & allow the WR to get free reign running a Post inside.

What he was supposed to do was jam & Steer him at the LOS, then flip & close the distance towards the WR's inside hip & play from his outside shoulder. If he executes proper technique like he's supposed to, it's either a PD or route stoppage incomplete pass.

The ONLY reason the WR got the catch, is because Damari turned in the wrong direction off the snap. That play was 1,000% on the player & not any Coach. There isn't a single Coach on Planet Earth that would instruct a CB to do that, literally not one.

It's the equivalent to a RB getting the hand off & then just running in the opposite direction of the LOS.
 
Yoyo82 said:


This kid has college tape out and he doesn't look good. This is against UCF by the way.

Yet you're posting his HS film here and commenting about his length and how he moves like they're evaluating a high school player.

No need to evaluate and project him..he played in college already against D1 guys and he's not very good.

There's a bunch of kids out there who are in the portal and have looked GOOD against D1 wide receivers. And none of them are visiting or getting offers?
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Looks like he’ll fit right in
 
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Memnon said:
Currently watching AZ vs TTech:

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Gets beats on a fade route on outside leverage. The WR absolutely worked him with his Outside release jab step & fade stack.


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The does the exact same thing again on the very next play. Same release, same route. Emmanuel gets saved by a bad WR drop, but otherwise that's a TD.


He's got a few more doosies in this game.

Yeah, idk who's calling the shots or making these evals, but Yikes on a Bike

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Last year we didn't meet Drelon Miller's price, and ended up paying the same amount for Sam Brown.

I can't shake the feeling that we're gonna pay Emmanuel the same amount we could've had Trey McNutt for.
 
Memnon said:
Currently watching AZ vs TTech:

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Gets beats on a fade route on outside leverage. The WR absolutely worked him with his Outside release jab step & fade stack.


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The does the exact same thing again on the very next play. Same release, same route. Emmanuel gets saved by a bad WR drop, but otherwise that's a TD.


He's got a few more doosies in this game.

Yeah, idk who's calling the shots or making these evals, but Yikes on a Bike

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Not too many things **** me off more than a DB doing any type of incomplete signal flexing after they get beat but the WR just drops the ball…
 
Memnon said:
Because it's Cover 4 Man, with the Corners playing Quarters coverage.

The Safeties are covering the Double Dig Crossing patterns against Trips left formation (3 WR's to the left hash, with the Z & the Y both running Digs across the face of the Defense).

Bissainthe does a good job of picking up the underneath coverage & passing him off to the Safety, who has eyes on the QB to watch for if the WR breaks his stem or if the X throttles down for a Curl or a Comeback.

Meesh picked up his man perfectly & so did Romanas.

The only person who made a mistake on that play was Damari.

He's in Quarters playing Press Man, he's not supposed to, nor does he need Safety help. All he had to do was not spin backside towards the sideline & allow the WR to get free reign running a Post inside.

What he was supposed to do was jam & Steer him at the LOS, then flip & close the distance towards the WR's inside hip & play from his outside shoulder. If he executes proper technique like he's supposed to, it's either a PD or route stoppage incomplete pass.

The ONLY reason the WR got the catch, is because Damari turned in the wrong direction off the snap. That play was 1,000% on the player & not any Coach. There isn't a single Coach on Planet Earth that would instruct a CB to do that, literally not one.

It's the equivalent to a RB getting the hand off & then just running in the opposite direction of the LOS.
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Thank you. Appreciate you taking the time to explain this. You’re the man!
 
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Yoyo82 said:


This kid has college tape out and he doesn't look good. This is against UCF by the way.

Yet you're posting his HS film here and commenting about his length and how he moves like they're evaluating a high school player.

No need to evaluate and project him..he played in college already against D1 guys and he's not very good.

There's a bunch of kids out there who are in the portal and have looked GOOD against D1 wide receivers. And none of them are visiting or getting offers?
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Should of kept Robby, Stafford, and Mooyoung if this is what you evaluating in the portal
 
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Memnon said:
The Safeties are covering the Double Dig Crossing patterns against Trips left formation (3 WR's to the left hash, with the Z & the Y both running Digs across the face of the Defense).

Bissainthe does a good job of picking up the underneath coverage & passing him off to the Safety, who has eyes on the QB to watch for if the WR breaks his stem or if the X throttles down for a Curl or a Comeback.
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Thanks for this explanation. Have one other question about this play that confused me:

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We ended up with 3 defenders around their least dangerous receiver #82-Gill and 1on1 against #7-Meeks, #19-Gadsen, #2-Pena. Seems weird. Is it possible Markeith was supposed to help Meesh on Gadsen down the opposite hash and Harris was supposed to go with #82 if he went up the field/help out if Meeks curled? Looks like Harris is eyeballing #82 the entire time, so not sure why Markeith is there next to him.

Saddest thing about this play is that Baron was a split second away from sacking McCord again violently from his blind side. Damari covers Meeks better, causing McCord to hesitate or come off Meeks, and McCord gets wrecked
 
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flips said:
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Saddest thing about this play is that Baron was a split second away from sacking McCord again violently from his blind side. Damari covers Meeks better, causing McCord to hesitate or come off Meeks, and McCord gets wrecked
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This why i dont agree with all the talk about the Dline disappointing

People overrated them, saying they would be a top10 dline but alot of the fanbase underrated how BAD our secondary would be. When the secondary actually covered well enough or we didn’t get out schemed our dline got pressure but that was a rarity all year lol
 
Memnon said:
Yeah, idk who's calling the shots or making these evals, but Yikes on a Bike
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Alright, so let's put down a status quo:

1. We've got a defensive room full of DBs who don't execute what the coach is asking of them.

2. We got DBs not just not executing the right technique but playing technique that no one gets.

3. We have evals that suck, royally.

4. There's no light at the end of the tunnel, because coaching changes haven't been made and the offers are so far not promising, along with the actual productive portal players not even being fought for.

In short:

We're boned.
 
Ryanmilli said:
I am very much a novice, so forgive me for what is likely a dumb question. But why is he playing outside leverage in both clips as boundary corner with no safety help? Wouldn’t he be playing inside leverage with no safety help to at least have the sideline as the help defender? I feel like I saw this at least a dozen times in the Syracuse game, including on 1-2 TDs.

It’s tough for me to believe that every single one of our DBs is so clueless they have no idea what to do 12 games in. Something is not connecting.
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For clarification purposes incase someone didn't already say, those 2 clips are different camera views of the same play. Not 2 different plays
 
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