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Angry Ibis said:
Lofton is a solid example. Being portrayed as a step below Reggie Bush or Travis Hunter impact and then catching 9 passes and having 1 TD.
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A lot of the Lofton talk was before we signed Martinez and the CIS surgeons were saying Mark Fletcher’s broken foot was going to keep him out until 2032. We were down to bare bones at running back and they were contemplating using him as an emergency running back. Once the running back room got straightened out, I figured he wasn’t going to see a ton of action at tight end with Arroyo, Williams and McCormick on the roster
 

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DTP said:
A lot of the Lofton talk was before we signed Martinez and the CIS surgeons were saying Mark Fletcher’s broken foot was going to keep him out until 2032. We were down to bare bones at running back and they were contemplating using him as an emergency running back. Once the running back room got straightened out, I figured he wasn’t going to see a ton of action at tight end with Arroyo, Williams and McCormick on the roster
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It is the usual (spin) cycle of spring to preseason to camp to game day. Part of it is the comedy that the staff takes so much time trying to be CIA like instead of just getting better --- laying this see through groundwork of saying all these players are great because they fear losing them to the portal or hurting their feelings.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Saying GTAA isn’t real after telling us that Emory is really good in practices is nasty work
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DTP said:
I’ll never believe anything anyone says about practice ever again.

We had respectable people here vouching for that.
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I’m all for the info. I’m not complaining that Minaya got some love here. It’s the offseason and reading about the team is always a good thing

Same time it’s just all with a grain of salt at this point
 
DMoney said:
It exists because fans get mad when the team does bad after a hopeful August.

On an individual basis, the players who play best in practice are usually the good players who end up in the NFL. Look at the most hyped players from last year's practices. Those are the guys who played well in games.

There are certainly guys who fit the Greentree All-American category- Darnell Jenkins, Lance Leggett as a freshman, Jaden Harris to an extent this year- but the guys who consistently perform on Greentree are usually the guys who perform on the field.
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My favorite GTAA was Kayne Farquharson.
 
I learned long ago to hardly pay attention to Spring talk about anyone. It is no worse now than the coach talk has ever been. Getting excited about new talent is fine and putting it out is fine. What is not, is acting like they will start or be a impact kid immediately.
Lofton is one I believe could have. Unfortunately, I already forsee this kid with his build, not finding a true starting spot in Dawson's O and being wasted. I hope I am wrong. I love some things Dawson does and I hate some things he doesn't do.
 
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skeeter said:
Oh I was talking Tirek Austin-Cave
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Yeh, he was hyped up too. I don’t remember if it was a greentree thing or before???

You and @JHallCanes are right though, and I’d say except when our trusted owners and posters get to see practices, D$ and others are just passing along what they’re hearing about who’s looking good out there. I don’t get mad when it doesn’t end up working out like we hope. I do understand why some people are reacting with hesitation to say the least but the alternative is no information. So for me, I think it’s best for people to put more value on something @DMoney sees with his own eyes, and reports, and just look at the rest of it - the “I’m told x player’s turning heads and a day 1 contributor” - like jhall said - “Lofton looks like a stud, cool, I’ll look forward to seeing how he does in the fall…” or something like that.

I feel like a number of kids have come in and maybe been what they should be but they get abused on here because people take camp reports and run with it setting an expectation in their minds that’s not realistic, fair… by no fault of the kids who may be meeting their true potential.
 
RVACane said:
Yeh, he was hyped up too. I don’t remember if it was a greentree thing or before???

You and @JHallCanes are right though, and I’d say except when our trusted owners and posters get to see practices, D$ and others are just passing along what they’re hearing about who’s looking good out there. I don’t get mad when it doesn’t end up working out like we hope. I do understand why some people are reacting with hesitation to say the least but the alternative is no information. So for me, I think it’s best for people to put more value on something @DMoney sees with his own eyes, and reports, and just look at the rest of it - the “I’m told x player’s turning heads and a day 1 contributor” - like jhall said - “Lofton looks like a stud, cool, I’ll look forward to seeing how he does in the fall…” or something like that.

I feel like a number of kids have come in and maybe been what they should be but they get abused on here because people take camp reports and run with it setting an expectation in their minds that’s not realistic, fair… by no fault of the kids who may be meeting their true potential.
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IIRC Kendall Thompkins may have been where the term originated

Year after year he would be highlighted on the practice field but yet would never do anything in games or play

It’s one thing to pass along positives about young guys that haven’t played yet, but takes on another form when these guys clearly play like crap but the practice reports are still handed out trying to suggest otherwise
 
JHallCanes said:
IIRC Kendall Thompkins may have been where the term originated

Year after year he would be highlighted on the practice field but yet would never do anything in games or play

It’s one thing to pass along positives about young guys that haven’t played yet, but takes on another form when these guys clearly play like crap but the practice reports are still handed out trying to suggest otherwise
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Some of the practice reports at times in the past have come off like the information relayed has endorsement and buy-in from the tone that some people here run with when they should do as you said. I think the endorsement thing is fine when someone trusted on here sees a practice firsthand or a non-team affiliated knowledgeable person they know sees it and tells them and they convey that. But when it’s purely from staff members, it just needs to be conveyed as such in an objective reporter type way.

I don’t know, it’s hard to express in words what I’m trying to convey here but you know it when you see it.
 
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JHallCanes said:
Saying GTAA isn’t real after telling us that Emory is really good in practices is nasty work
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I've told you what I've thought about Emory since the beginning. This is me three years ago, before Emory's senior year of high school:

DMoney said:
But I’m concerned about athletic upside. The trend is toward dynamic talents and this kid appears to be a single-sport kid without a ton of twitch in his body. He is more polished than gifted.

I’ll withhold judgment until I can watch a few games, but there have been a few Canes fans from the panhandle who have seen him live and questioned the offer. Consider me concerned.
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Throughout his entire college career (and dozens of in-person viewings on Greentree), I maintained that he was a backup.

This is what I said after the FSU game, when Emory's stock was as high as it got:

DMoney said:
- Emory Williams won over a lot of teammates with those two runs. At this point, I would project him more as an ideal game-manager backup. That doesn't mean he can't be more than that, but we need to procure a starter from the Portal.
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Did I relay that the coaches liked Emory? Yes. Did I report when he practiced well, or when someone told me he did? Sure.

But my view, after watching almost every spring/camp practice, has been consistent: he's a backup at Miami.

If Emory is a "Greentree All-American," the term has no meaning. It's just something people say.
 
Angry Ibis said:
Lofton is a solid example. Being portrayed as a step below Reggie Bush or Travis Hunter impact and then catching 9 passes and having 1 TD.
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Lofton is a great example. Him, Frederique and Lyle were hyped as our best freshmen based on Greentree performance.

They were our best three freshmen, during the season, by a good margin.
 
DMoney said:
Lofton is a great example. Him, Frederique and Lyle were hyped as our best freshmen based on Greentree performance.

They were our best three freshmen, during the season, by a good margin.
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Hype Clock is right twice a day. Every player on the roster got some type of kool aid servings from Spring to Fall.

He had 1 TD on 9 catches.

Freddy Orange Juice, Yes. Lyle as RB coach in waiting and roster decision makers, Yes.
 
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