Objective #1- Clemson

[supacane]

You said knocking off Clemson. I just said maybe we should start with MTSU & go from there.

We coulda beat Duke MTSU and FSU and been no closer to knocking off Clemson. Knocking off Clemson starts with getting players to compete with them. The last 4 times we played them with 4 different coaches we got smoked. How? Mid or average roster.

 

[Juanka]

objective #1 get another OC

 

[L A M P]

We coulda beat Duke MTSU and FSU and been no closer to knocking off Clemson. Knocking off Clemson starts with getting players to compete with them. The last 4 times we played them with 4 different coaches we got smoked. How? Mid or average roster.

I personally think we got out-schemed and out- coached more so than out-talented this year.

Long way to go all around. Won’t be next year.

 

[supacane]

I personally think we got out-schemed and out- coached more so than out-talented this year.

Long way to go all around. Won’t be next year.

4 Different coaches, 58-0, 38-3, 42-13, 40-10. Yeah magic coaching is gonna fix that. **** stare yall dead in the face and yall cant see it

 

[NC_Canes_11]

Im talking about recruiting and recruiting alone, i clearly said we need another similar elite class. I also pointed out, normally you would need 3 of these classes but with the portal you can use 2 elite classes. I wrote all that, no one time i mentioned record. This is the first step, not the only step. Learn to read

You said knocking off Clemson. I guess you can’t read

 

[BoxingRobes]

How about not lose to G5 teams or lesser...

also a worthwhile short term goal. Perhaps Objective #.5.

 

[supacane]

You said knocking off Clemson. I guess you can’t read

yeah knocking them off as in taking over the conference, they lost to NC St in 2021 and NC St didnt knock them off. 2 seperate things. Like i said learn to read and more importantly comprehend

 

[NC_Canes_11]

yeah knocking them off as in taking over the conference, they lost to NC St in 2021 and NC St didnt knock them off. 2 seperate things. Like i said learn to read and more importantly comprehend

Lmao man you don’t understand what “knocking off” means if you think it’s simply recruiting over them and has nothing to do with beating them. According to your definition, we’ve “knocked off” everyone in the coastal bc we recruit better, except that hasn’t turned into any wins.

 

[L A M P]

4 Different coaches, 58-0, 38-3, 42-13, 40-10. Yeah magic coaching is gonna fix that. **** stare yall dead in the face and yall cant see it

You’re conflating two different points. Clemson now isn’t Clemson 5 years ago. We just happened to suck.

 

[supacane]

Lmao man you don’t understand what “knocking off” means if you think it’s simply recruiting over them and has nothing to do with beating them. According to your definition, we’ve “knocked off” everyone in the coastal bc we recruit better, except that hasn’t turned into any wins.

I said what i said. All them players we supposed to dominate the Coastal with are now at G5 schools. Im done with this back and forth. You wanna win big you recruit elite classes, not good classes, elite classes. Simple as and we took the first step. Im done.

 

[NC_Canes_11]

I said what i said. All them players we supposed to dominate the Coastal with are now at G5 schools. Im done with this back and forth. You wanna win big you recruit elite classes, not good classes, elite classes. Simple as and we took the first step. Im done.

You’re free to have that opinion. Just don’t call someone else dumb, and then double down on it, when it’s you who made the error.

 

[UMFarArcher]

hot take - we beat clemson this year and stake our claim.

Not with Gaddis.

He can't call his own dog.

 

[Rellyrell]

I think some of u r misunderstanding Clemson’s recruiting strategy, while also misunderstanding how the rating system work. It’s why we were duped into thinking the 2008 class was the #1 class.

Since 2015, Clemson have had:

2015 - #9 class
2016 - #11 class
2017 - #16 class
2018 - #7 class
2019 - #12 class
2020 - #3 class
2021 - #5 class
2022 - #14 class
2023 - #13 class

Over the past 9 cycles, Clemson’s avg. class has been #10 in the nation, hardly on par w/ the Bama’s, OSU’s, UGA’s, **** even Texas. So y has Clemson gone 100-12 during this time frame, winning 2 titles, playing for another 2, while bytch slapping The ACC? It’s b/c of an established system + a high blue chip ratio per majority of their class.

2015: 50%
2016: 62%
2017: 71%
2018: 71%
2019: 45% (worst class)
2020: 74%
2021: 95%
2022: 48%
2023: 73%

Before we worry about Clemson, our identity needs to be established; ****, we don’t even know who our OC is going to be, & if it remains Gattis…..yeah, well….

Once a productive identity is established on both sides of the ball, then our recruiting can become on autopilot where class rankings won’t matter as much, knowing whoever we recruit will be another fit to an establishment.

 

[Kjdcanefan]

I think some of u r misunderstanding Clemson’s recruiting strategy, while also misunderstanding how the rating system work. It’s why we were duped into thinking the 2008 class was the #1 class.

Since 2015, Clemson have had:

2015 - #9 class
2016 - #11 class
2017 - #16 class
2018 - #7 class
2019 - #12 class
2020 - #3 class
2021 - #5 class
2022 - #14 class
2023 - #13 class

Over the past 9 cycles, Clemson’s avg. class has been #10 in the nation, hardly on par w/ the Bama’s, OSU’s, UGA’s, **** even Texas. So y has Clemson gone 100-12 during this time frame, winning 2 titles, playing for another 2, while bytch slapping The ACC? It’s b/c of an established system + a high blue chip ratio per majority of their class.

2015: 50%
2016: 62%
2017: 71%
2018: 71%
2019: 45% (worst class)
2020: 74%
2021: 95%
2022: 48%
2023: 73%

Before we worry about Clemson, our identity needs to be established; ****, we don’t even know who our OC is going to be, & if it remains Gattis…..yeah, well….

Once a productive identity is established on both sides of the ball, then our recruiting can become on autopilot where class rankings won’t matter as much, knowing whoever we recruit will be another fit to an establishment.

that 95% year in 2021 is mind boggling. They are going to be real good if those players develop this offseason.

 

[Rellyrell]

that 95% year in 2021 is mind boggling. They are going to be real good if those players develop this offseason.

Yeah, I had to do a double take. They had a class of 20, 19 + 1 transfer, & all but 1 was a 4* or higher.

 

[Cane Tankerous]

Objective #1 is to get players. Beating MTSU is not an objective. Next

 

[NJshoreCane]

Since Mario has gotten to Miami the last 2 classes, here is a comparison in recruiting. These are signed kids only

Clemson has signed 18 TOP 247 recruits/8 top 100/3 five stars

Miami has signed 21 TOP 247 recruits/6 top 100/2 five stars

Mario arrived two weeks before ESD last year.

 

[Boots]

Beating Duke isn't the same as winning the recruiting battle against Clemson. Georgia had to out-recruit Alabama before they were able to beat them. Like Kirby Smart, no coach can out coach recruiting.

Tennessee vs Bama this year?

 

[Sugarcane521]

Tennessee vs Bama this year?

That was a what 2 point game UT at home? Bama kicker missed the field goal too before end of regulation? C'mon man bama wins that game 9 outta 10 times people act like it was a blowout

 

[htownkidd]

That was a what 2 point game UT at home? Bama kicker missed the field goal too before end of regulation? C'mon man bama wins that game 9 outta 10 times people act like it was a blowout

1.) They beat them, nothing else matters.
2.) They haven’t recruited anywhere close to Bama’s level recently.