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MAGIC CITY CANE
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Kind of weird that Barry Jackson doesn't mention that UM is expecting to the NOA until the 10th paragraph or so. Then, just mentions it in passing.
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Hurricanestorm
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I wonder if this is related to Brennan Carroll's Tweet the other day. the timing is very coincidental here especially given the fact the U is a private university and can pick and choose when/what info becomes public, if at all........
the fact its close to signing day is meaningless because any sanctions (loss of schollies, reduced visits, etc) wont effect this years class anyway. also once we get the NOA, we will have 90 days (which could actually be extended) to respond. we will likely take all 90 days to respond. once we respond, they will schedule a hearing with the infractions committee, which will take at least 60 days. long story short, this wont be closed until the end of summer at the earliest.
my expectations for football are a loss of 30 scholarships over 3 years, which will be reduced by 10 as we played at 80 last year and will do so again this season. im also expecting some sort of reduction in recruiting contact for 2 years, my guess is a reduction of official visits. im also thinking that the entire athletic department will be placed on probation for 3-5 years in addition to sanctions against the basketball program
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**** it. We got to get it done with already.
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CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) — The nearly 2-year-old NCAA investigation into Miami's compliance practices may be nearing an end.
Two people with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press on Saturday that the NCAA is scheduling meetings to discuss specific allegations with individuals who are believed to have committed violations found during the inquiry. Some meetings will take place Monday, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because neither the NCAA nor Miami authorized them to reveal the developments publicly.
The reviewing of specific findings is a sign that the investigation phase is ending, meaning Miami may finally receive its notice of allegations letter in the coming days. Typically, schools review at least one draft of the notice before it formally arrives.
The NCAA does not comment on ongoing investigations. Miami's statement throughout the investigation has been that it is cooperating and not commenting further.
Earlier this month, Miami coach Al Golden told the AP that he did not expect the university to be surprised by the NCAA's findings.
"We just want to receive the notice," Golden said. "The day we do that is the day we take a big step forward. I don't think there's any question that will be a release. And the good thing there is we don't anticipate any shock or any surprise."
Miami's receipt of the notice of allegations is simply the end of one phase of the process.
Up next would be the sanctions phase, when the actual penalties against the Hurricanes would be handed down. Typically, schools and individuals named in the notice of allegations have 90 days to file a response to the NCAA's findings, all of which would be reviewed by the committee on infractions — which operates separately from the NCAA's investigative arm.
If the notice of allegations is, in fact, looming, that means Miami may find out its punishment by perhaps May or June.
Some of the sanctions have already gone into effect, since they were self-imposed. Miami's football team has missed three postseason games — two bowl games and what would have been an appearance in this season's Atlantic Coast Conference championship game — in response to the investigation, and Golden is holding back a number of scholarships from the 2013 roster as well.
The Miami investigation may go down as one of the most complex in the NCAA's history.
For starters, the principal whistleblower is Nevin Shapiro, a former booster who's serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison for masterminding a $930 million Ponzi scheme. Virtually all of the individuals who were named by Shapiro in his detailed claims that were published by Yahoo Sports in August 2011 are no longer at the university, and several of the people to whom the NCAA wanted to talk simply refused during the inquiry.
The NCAA inquiry started several months before that August 2011 article.
Shapiro's tales were wild and sordid, with claims of him giving dozens of coaches, players and recruits things like cash, memorabilia, strip-club outings, yacht rides and even paying for prostitutes. In an interview in 2011 with Miami CBS affiliate WFOR, Shapiro predicted that his claims would lead to Miami's football program getting the "death penalty" — the sanction where the NCAA would basically shut down the program.
Most of Shapiro's claims involved the football program, though others also involved the Hurricanes' men's basketball team.
Two people with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press on Saturday that the NCAA is scheduling meetings to discuss specific allegations with individuals who are believed to have committed violations found during the inquiry. Some meetings will take place Monday, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because neither the NCAA nor Miami authorized them to reveal the developments publicly.
The reviewing of specific findings is a sign that the investigation phase is ending, meaning Miami may finally receive its notice of allegations letter in the coming days. Typically, schools review at least one draft of the notice before it formally arrives.
The NCAA does not comment on ongoing investigations. Miami's statement throughout the investigation has been that it is cooperating and not commenting further.
Earlier this month, Miami coach Al Golden told the AP that he did not expect the university to be surprised by the NCAA's findings.
"We just want to receive the notice," Golden said. "The day we do that is the day we take a big step forward. I don't think there's any question that will be a release. And the good thing there is we don't anticipate any shock or any surprise."
Miami's receipt of the notice of allegations is simply the end of one phase of the process.
Up next would be the sanctions phase, when the actual penalties against the Hurricanes would be handed down. Typically, schools and individuals named in the notice of allegations have 90 days to file a response to the NCAA's findings, all of which would be reviewed by the committee on infractions — which operates separately from the NCAA's investigative arm.
If the notice of allegations is, in fact, looming, that means Miami may find out its punishment by perhaps May or June.
Some of the sanctions have already gone into effect, since they were self-imposed. Miami's football team has missed three postseason games — two bowl games and what would have been an appearance in this season's Atlantic Coast Conference championship game — in response to the investigation, and Golden is holding back a number of scholarships from the 2013 roster as well.
The Miami investigation may go down as one of the most complex in the NCAA's history.
For starters, the principal whistleblower is Nevin Shapiro, a former booster who's serving a 20-year sentence in federal prison for masterminding a $930 million Ponzi scheme. Virtually all of the individuals who were named by Shapiro in his detailed claims that were published by Yahoo Sports in August 2011 are no longer at the university, and several of the people to whom the NCAA wanted to talk simply refused during the inquiry.
The NCAA inquiry started several months before that August 2011 article.
Shapiro's tales were wild and sordid, with claims of him giving dozens of coaches, players and recruits things like cash, memorabilia, strip-club outings, yacht rides and even paying for prostitutes. In an interview in 2011 with Miami CBS affiliate WFOR, Shapiro predicted that his claims would lead to Miami's football program getting the "death penalty" — the sanction where the NCAA would basically shut down the program.
Most of Shapiro's claims involved the football program, though others also involved the Hurricanes' men's basketball team.
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I DO want the NOI BEFORE Feb. 6. Let's show the recruits how weak they are. Competition can argue all sorts of things about the unknown. With transparancy they can see the true facts and Al can explain how the sanctions will be relatively light.
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lol......unfugginbelievable. Was just discussing the investigation a couple of days ago with a buddy at work and told him, "Watch, they've been investigating for 2 years and I bet the NOA will come out just in time to rattle our potential signees before signing day." Not sure whether to laugh or cry right now. We are in very good shape with all of our main targets despite the uncertainty so i was wishing for another few weeks of uncertainty.....
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Remember, this is UM.
**** like this is commonplace down there.
I wouldn't expect anything different.
the timing is really a non event, and the reality is, that any sanctions in general are a non event as well. the school knows what the allegations will be. we have already played down 5 schollie players last year and should do the same this year, and we have self imposed 2 bowl bans. any sanctions handed down will have zero effect on this years class. if you are a recruit coming in, any sanctions really wont affect you, you have a schollie, you know that bowl bans are behind you, and the athletic department being placed on probation or having recruiting limitations going forward wont affect them at all.
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again, remember that the timing is a non issue here
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Perhaps this is another situation that people feel we are getting the NOA, and its really just something else related to it (like last time, it was the NCAA sending out a letter to inform players to start talking, OR ELSE)...who really knows, but there is something to it if the DancingBear speaks.
not gonna happen
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