Are they considered a top tier SEC program now?
**** no. They're having a decent run now, but if/ when kiffin leaves they'll be back to where they usually are. Similar to when Spurrier had SCAR on that incredible run then when he retired it was back to mediocrity.
So what you're telling me is that they're historically a 2nd tier SEC team, they are currently a 2nd tier SEC team with Kiffin, and when Kiffin leaves (and he will most certainly leave the second a better opportunity arises), they'll go back to being a 2nd tier team. I think you've convinced me that he is doing more with less.
You don't have to believe me, just look at their season records the last 20+ years. they haven't had back to back 10 win seasons since 1959-1960. Calling them a 2nd tier team was me being generous, they're more of a 3rd tier team. Kiffin is on the verge of accomplishing something at Ole Miss that has not been done in 60 years. You can't get anymore "doing more with less" than that. When Kiffin leaves, they'll likely regress back to their mean, similar to S. Carolina.
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He went 8-5 last year, what do you think he’s on the verge of accomplishing?You don't have to believe me, just look at their season records the last 20+ years. they haven't had back to back 10 win seasons since 1959-1960. Calling them a 2nd tier team was me being generous, they're more of a 3rd tier team. Kiffin is on the verge of accomplishing something at Ole Miss that has not been done in 60 years. You can't get anymore "doing more with less" than that. When Kiffin leaves, they'll likely regress back to their mean, similar to S. Carolina.
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My minor disagreement, if it's one at all is just the share of blame for Dawson. I put more on our QB taking a bath.
The Auburn people i know say Freeze was the guy all along, but everything you say is plausible to me as well.
First ole miss coach in 60 years to have multiple 10 win seasons. I misspoke about the back to back 10 win seasons, but you appear to be a mariobro so I'll leave you to your blind defense of him.
I’m a Mario bro and I’m blindly defending him? Sometimes I forget I’m probably talking to teenagers on here.
You're not really adding anything of substance to this conversation. You're merely repeating my statements in a sarcastic tone and not offering any original thought of your own. I guess this is your idea of engaging in a conversation, but it's really just juvenile as ****, yet you're accusing me of being a teenager on here.
2010 draft is irrelevant. Kiffin's first season was 2010 which means he didn't coach the kids that were in the 2010 draft. 2011 draft over half of the players that were drafted were drafted in the 6th and 7th round. So that was after his first season. The next draft (after his second season) they only had a total of 3 players drafted. As a comparison Miami had 6 drafted. Doesn't sound like he had much talent with 6th and 7th rounders.
Mario was I believe 1 game above 500 combined at FIU and Oregon, he didn’t exactly kill it before he came here. A lot of his success at Oregon had to do with Herbert who Mario didn’t even recruit and whom you could argue and most would argue underperformed at Oregon. QB’s underperforming seem to be a trend under Mario. TVD had one of the best 8 game stretches in the history of college football under Lashlee and all of a sudden he looks more like Kirby Freeman now?
He literally said his source is biased.
TVD isn't the first overhyped Miami QB to get figured out.
