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Tears Nole Tears (“Offcial”)

LOSS - August 30: vs. Alabama
WIN - September 5: vs. East Texas A&M
LOSS - September 13: Bye
WIN - September 20: vs. Kent State
WIN - September 26: at Virginia* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - October 4: vs. Miami*
LOSS - October 11: vs. Pittsburgh*
WIN - October 18: at Stanford* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - October 25: Bye
WIN - November 1: vs. Wake Forest* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - November 8: at Clemson*
LOSS - November 15: vs. Virginia Tech*
LOSS - November 21: at NC State*
LOSS - November 29: at Florida

I see 5 wins. F$U got incredibly lucky to be playing every single other 2024 bowl-ineligible team in the ACC. Literally 3 of their 8 conference games are against the 3 other ACC teams that only played 12 games.
 

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TheOriginalCane said:
LOSS - August 30: vs. Alabama
WIN - September 5: vs. East Texas A&M
LOSS - September 13: Bye
WIN - September 20: vs. Kent State
WIN - September 26: at Virginia* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - October 4: vs. Miami*
LOSS - October 11: vs. Pittsburgh*
WIN - October 18: at Stanford* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - October 25: Bye
WIN - November 1: vs. Wake Forest* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - November 8: at Clemson*
LOSS - November 15: vs. Virginia Tech*
LOSS - November 21: at NC State*
LOSS - November 29: at Florida

I see 5 wins. F$U got incredibly lucky to be playing every single other 2024 bowl-ineligible team in the ACC. Literally 3 of their 8 conference games are against the 3 other ACC teams that only played 12 games.
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I’d like to see Alabama beat them so badly physically that they struggle big with East Texas. Then lose to Virginia and the wheels come completely off again
 
JHallCanes said:
I’d like to see Alabama beat them so badly physically that they struggle big with East Texas. Then lose to Virginia and the wheels come completely off again
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I'm down with that as well.

Not that I would ever wish physical harm on anyone, but if Castellanos gets beaten up anywhere between August 30th and October 4th? That might could get Prison Mike fired.
 
JHallCanes said:
Yeah I hope they lose them all. Castellanos isn’t a good QB but he’s also kind of a pain in the *** with his running. Could be an issue for some defenses
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Hopefully that locker room culture that's been brewing the past couple of years and his perceived attitude issues blow up in their faces and they run up another 2 win season.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
LOSS - August 30: vs. Alabama
WIN - September 5: vs. East Texas A&M
LOSS - September 13: Bye
WIN - September 20: vs. Kent State
WIN - September 26: at Virginia* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - October 4: vs. Miami*
LOSS - October 11: vs. Pittsburgh*
WIN - October 18: at Stanford* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - October 25: Bye
WIN - November 1: vs. Wake Forest* - ONE OF FOUR ACC BOWL-INELIGIBLE TEAMS IN 2024
LOSS - November 8: at Clemson*
LOSS - November 15: vs. Virginia Tech*
LOSS - November 21: at NC State*
LOSS - November 29: at Florida

I see 5 wins. F$U got incredibly lucky to be playing every single other 2024 bowl-ineligible team in the ACC. Literally 3 of their 8 conference games are against the 3 other ACC teams that only played 12 games.
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LOL on the Bye loss!

I'll be generous:

(L) Alabama
(W) East Texas A&M
(W) Kent State
(W) Virginia
(L) Miami
(W) Pittsburgh
(W) Stanford
(W) Wake Forecast
(L) Clemson
(W) Virginia Tech
(W) NC State
(W) Florida

Probably the best case scenario for them (a couple of upset wins included). It's really contingent on how much year to year change there is in having the new guy as QB versus last year's cast. Overall they've replaced nearly half the team, and on paper they're more talented than a year ago.
 
GojiraCane said:
LOL on the Bye loss!

I'll be generous:

(L) Alabama
(W) East Texas A&M
(W) Kent State
(W) Virginia
(L) Miami
(W) Pittsburgh
(W) Stanford
(W) Wake Forecast
(L) Clemson
(W) Virginia Tech
(W) NC State
(W) Florida

Probably the best case scenario for them (a couple of upset wins included). It's really contingent on how much year to year change there is in having the new guy as QB versus last year's cast. Overall they've replaced nearly half the team, and on paper they're more talented than a year ago.
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I don’t think they have a chance of beating bama Miami Clemson ufag. Then sprinkle in a bad loss to 2 ACC squads. 5-7 max
 
GojiraCane said:
LOL on the Bye loss!

I'll be generous:

(L) Alabama
(W) East Texas A&M
(W) Kent State
(W) Virginia
(L) Miami
(W) Pittsburgh
(W) Stanford
(W) Wake Forecast
(L) Clemson
(W) Virginia Tech
(W) NC State
(W) Florida

Probably the best case scenario for them (a couple of upset wins included). It's really contingent on how much year to year change there is in having the new guy as QB versus last year's cast. Overall they've replaced nearly half the team, and on paper they're more talented than a year ago.
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9 wins? What are you smoking?

All jokes aside, the part I don't get is how "on paper they're more talented than a year ago". I don't think that's true at all. ON PAPER last year, they went for a bunch of "5-star talent", at least as to what the high school rating was. DJU is proof of that.

And regardless of stars, I don't think Castellanos is as good as DJU was. Sure, he can run. Who cares.

They might have "more motivated" players this year, and they might play a bit better, but I definitely think they had more "talent" last year.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
9 wins? What are you smoking?

All jokes aside, the part I don't get is how "on paper they're more talented than a year ago". I don't think that's true at all. ON PAPER, they went for a bunch of "5-star talent", at least as to what the high school rating was. DJU is proof of that.

And regardless of stars, I don't think Castellanos is as good as DJU was. Sure, he can run. Who cares.

They might have "more motivated" players this year, and they might play a bit better, but I definitely think they had more "talent" last year.
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Their rationale is that they took high ranked players that they knew would stick around for multiple years, so they could develop them and have them more than a single season. Allegedly they knew some of them would not be ready made, i.e. Earl Little. However, they are expecting them to make the next step and be players next season.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
9 wins? What are you smoking?

All jokes aside, the part I don't get is how "on paper they're more talented than a year ago". I don't think that's true at all. ON PAPER, they went for a bunch of "5-star talent", at least as to what the high school rating was. DJU is proof of that.

And regardless of stars, I don't think Castellanos is as good as DJU was. Sure, he can run. Who cares.

They might have "more motivated" players this year, and they might play a bit better, but I definitely think they had more "talent" last year.
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Their defense was not historically bad last year. Just mediocre. It was the unbelievably bad offense that led to the two win season.

Here's how the team compares on paper to last year:

GojiraCane

Tears Post in thread 'Nole Tears (“Offcial”)'

Here's how 2025 FSU currently stacks up against 2024:

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AVERAGE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
  • 2025: 1.84 years
  • 2024: 2.04 years
AVERAGE 247 RATING
  • 2024: .8961
  • 2024: .8942
2025 FSU POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • Wide Receiver (2025: .9146, 2024: .9044)
  • Tight End (2025: .8911, 2024: .8884)
  • Running Back (2025: .9215, 2024: .9146)
  • Offensive Line (2025: .8927, 2024: .8910)
  • Defensive Tackle (2025: .8991, 2024: 8852)
  • Defensive End (2025: .9051, 2024: .9028)
  • Special Teams (2025: .8236, 2024...
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tsimonitis said:
Their rationale is that they took high ranked players that they knew would stick around for multiple years, so they could develop them and have them more than a single season. Allegedly they knew some of them would not be ready made, i.e. Earl Little. However, they are expecting them to make the next step and be players next season.
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I know that is the STATED rationale.

But the reality is that they tried to load up in 2024 in order to go on their Revenge of the Snub tour. And then all their coaches and writers mutually *********ed themselves into "the 2024 team is better than the 2023 team".
 
GojiraCane said:
Their defense was not historically bad last year. Just mediocre. It was the unbelievably bad offense that led to the two win season.

Here's how the team compares on paper to last year:

GojiraCane

Tears Post in thread 'Nole Tears (“Offcial”)'

Here's how 2025 FSU currently stacks up against 2024:

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AVERAGE COLLEGE EXPERIENCE
  • 2025: 1.84 years
  • 2024: 2.04 years
AVERAGE 247 RATING
  • 2024: .8961
  • 2024: .8942
2025 FSU POSITION ADVANTAGES (RATING)
  • Wide Receiver (2025: .9146, 2024: .9044)
  • Tight End (2025: .8911, 2024: .8884)
  • Running Back (2025: .9215, 2024: .9146)
  • Offensive Line (2025: .8927, 2024: .8910)
  • Defensive Tackle (2025: .8991, 2024: 8852)
  • Defensive End (2025: .9051, 2024: .9028)
  • Special Teams (2025: .8236, 2024...
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Good lord, what a bunch of horse****. Further proof of how manipulable "snapshots" are.

First, you have to start at the top. Quarterback. Replacing Jordan Travis. It is inarguable that the 2024 FSU roster was more talented than the 2025 FSU roster at the single most important position.

Second, let's go to the bottom. "Special teams". Anyone who cannot acknowledge that the 2024 pair of Fitzgerald-Mastromanno are infinitely more talented than what F$U has in 2025 is just intentionally stupid and stubborn. I don't care what the HS ratings for kickers and punters are, by 2024 those two guys had PROVEN that they were far more talented than how they were rated in high school. At a certain point you must substitute ACTUAL PRODUCTION for high school star ratings. Was Miami "more talented" at QB in 2024 than we were in 2023? YES, good lord YES.

Third, let's look at running back. This one is a fantastic comparison, BECAUSE THE LISTS ARE IDENTICAL BUT FOR ONE PERSON. In 2024, you have productive 4-year running back Lawrence Toafili. And in 2025, you replace Toafili with talented freshman Ousmane Kromah. Sorry, but the 2024 group is more talented on that basis alone, Kromah may not even play in 2025.

Look, if you want to line the 2024 F$U team AS HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS up against the 2025 team AS HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS, then knock yourself out. But I'll bet that if you recalculated the 2024 team SOLELY BY ELIMINATING Fitzgerald and Mastromanno, then the two teams would have identical star ratings.

The fact remains, F$U's 2024 team was superior to 2025 at QB, RB, and TE, and the two teams are CLOSE at WR. You cannot put "high school ratings" over multiple years of actual collegiate production. And remember THIS chestnut, about how good F$U's OL was supposed to be in 2024:

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The ESTABLISHED AND PROVEN talent of the 2024 F$U team, at the time that F$U coaches and writers lined them up and lionized them, far exceeds that of the 2025 team. It just does. You can't use the term "on paper" to solely refer to high school. On paper, many of the 2024 F$U players had established their talent on-the-field. In college, not just high school. And even the 2024 "great in high school" F$U players were supposed to have had limited collegiate experience because they were stuck behind 5-stars at blue-blood schools.

You just don't have that with the 2025 F$U team. You just don't.
 
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