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What he should be doing is getting on the players who are doing half assed stretches. More interested in being a friend than a leader. Pathetic **** that will lead to crap results.
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Both excellent observations.

He’s unproven as **** against very god competition in games that are meaningful, from what I can see.

In his head coaching career, I wonder what would be classified as his top three signature wins?
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Just looking at his USF and Oregon years, assuming none of his 9 wins in 2 years at WKU would qualify as big wins, this is what look like his biggest wins from each season. He beat ranked AAC teams twice. Splitting hairs on what the 3rd biggest win would be, take your pick of the few other teams with winning records they beat. He didn't coach USF when they beat USCe at the end of the 2016 season. Whole lot of wins over some really bad teams though. Just look at their wins last year at Oregon. They beat Oregon St, Cal, Nebraska just to name a few.

2013
Record: 2-10
Biggest win: Cincy unranked

2014
Record: 4-8
Biggest win: UCONN unranked

2015
Record: 8-5
Biggest win: Temple #22

2016
Record: 10-2
Biggest win: Navy #22

2017
Record: 7-5
Biggest win: Utah
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Willie talks and acts a big game until we actually get to what counts: winning actual football games.

He’s a sub-.500 regular season coach and 0-1 in bowl games and that tells me he shows a lot of false cornball bravado and fake swagger.

We really don’t know if he’s a coach that can actually win at a big time program. His regular season record says a big fat NO. So does his bowl record.

Right now the facts state he’s a good recruiter but a shltty losing coach.
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He seems to be an Al Golden clone.
I’m very encouraged by what willy is showing us so far.
 
Torocane said:
He seems to be an Al Golden clone.
I’m very encouraged by what willy is showing us so far.
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I know im strongly in the minority but alfrauds biggest problem was he was too loyal to his coaching friends. If he wouldve said to no d from the beginning your kool aid wont cut it here & brought along a dc that knows and coaches our style of football hes probably still here & would be for awhile. He was a complete hypocrite from anyone that knows him inside the locker room but to the public & media he was decent & couldve worked. @apfenny3 aptell them about alfrauds locker room persona so people dont say im just padding it. The man was a piece of **** hypocrite
 
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Brooklyndee said:
I know im strongly in the minority but alfrauds biggest problem was he was too loyal to his coaching friends. If he wouldve said to no d from the beginning your kool aid wont cut it here & brought along a dc that knows and coaches our style of football hes probably still here & would be for awhile. He was a complete hypocrite from anyone that knows him inside the locker room but to the public & media he was decent & couldve worked. @apfenny3 aptell them about alfrauds locker room persona so people dont say im just padding it. The man was a piece of **** hypocrite
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Obviously you would know from seeing the inside dealing but he seemed not only loyal to his friends but also his philosophy. It seemed like it was inconceivable to him that you could run any other system than the one he knew. He rejected our style.
 
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Brooklyndee said:
I know im strongly in the minority but alfrauds biggest problem was he was too loyal to his coaching friends. If he wouldve said to no d from the beginning your kool aid wont cut it here & brought along a dc that knows and coaches our style of football hes probably still here & would be for awhile. He was a complete hypocrite from anyone that knows him inside the locker room but to the public & media he was decent & couldve worked. @apfenny3 aptell them about alfrauds locker room persona so people dont say im just padding it. The man was a piece of **** hypocrite
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No offense, Dee. But a large contingent of UM fans saw through his facade around year 3 and saw his lack of willingness to get rid of coaches for the betterment of the team; but would rather stay loyal to friends instead of being better at his job.
 
Brooklyndee said:
I know im strongly in the minority but alfrauds biggest problem was he was too loyal to his coaching friends. If he wouldve said to no d from the beginning your kool aid wont cut it here & brought along a dc that knows and coaches our style of football hes probably still here & would be for awhile. He was a complete hypocrite from anyone that knows him inside the locker room but to the public & media he was decent & couldve worked. @apfenny3 aptell them about alfrauds locker room persona so people dont say im just padding it. The man was a piece of **** hypocrite
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If Sandusky taught us anything is to never trust anyone from Ped State inside a locker room.
 
Brooklyndee said:
I know im strongly in the minority but alfrauds biggest problem was he was too loyal to his coaching friends. If he wouldve said to no d from the beginning your kool aid wont cut it here & brought along a dc that knows and coaches our style of football hes probably still here & would be for awhile. He was a complete hypocrite from anyone that knows him inside the locker room but to the public & media he was decent & couldve worked. @apfenny3 aptell them about alfrauds locker room persona so people dont say im just padding it. The man was a piece of **** hypocrite
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I’m grateful for the opportunity I received to live out my dream, but there were a lot of things he should’ve done differently.

Being too loyal probably salvaged his friendship but ended his career here. No one on the defense was bought into that system and he the locker room as a whole was very fractured. A lot of guys felt they couldn’t trust the staff and didn’t have good personal relationships with them.

As time went on there were more cancers in the locker room and more people just cared about themselves over the team. When you hear the same things over and over or the same mistakes are constantly happening it leads to guys tuning the staff out.
 
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orange&green84 said:
No offense, Dee. But a large contingent of UM fans saw through his facade around year 3 and saw his lack of willingness to get rid of coaches for the betterment of the team; but would rather stay loyal to friends instead of being better at his job.
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I take no offense brother. We had our suspicion once he announced staff but we atleast ran our system first 2 years if i remember right. He was decent with our offense. But thats exactly what im saying. He **** on our kids to save face for his friends. It was sad how he **** all over every bit of tradition we have that gives us an identity than our own fan base & our alumni were literally at odds with each other. Look at the people who say how mike said this & that like he wasnt speaking the truth,**** all over mario for distancing himself from that staff by any means necessary. Yet dontvsay **** about joel,jauqin,bryant & endless others who saw through the bull**** and actually called them out over it in a public forum. A cane is a mother fvckin cane. That doesnt make them above our criticism (as all people deserve to speak their opinions)but ANIMOSITY is some whole other bull****.
 
apfenny3 said:
I’m grateful for the opportunity I received to live out my dream, but there were a lot of things he should’ve done differently.

Being too loyal probably salvaged his friendship but ended his career here. No one on the defense was bought into that system and he the locker room as a whole was very fractured. A lot of guys felt they couldn’t trust the staff and didn’t have good personal relationships with them.

As time went on there were more cancers in the locker room and more people just cared about themselves over the team. When you hear the same things over and over or the same mistakes are constantly happening it leads to guys tuning the staff out.
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Im not even getting into my own personal experiences with the man even though when he first got here he was all about the miami history & keeping the former players involved yet by the end of year 1 we were allowed nowhere close & he spit in our face by trying to say it was because of the investigation & admin & ncaa were the ones keeping us away... how fvckin stupid you think we are that admin or ncaa would say dont let alums on the sideline or at practice etc the majority of the time. It was cause he knew we saw through his bullshyt & would call him on it. I remember some of the stories quan,jermaine,juwon & kirb used to tell me bout that locker room. **** was sad how a team had so many clicks in it. No unity cause of that staff.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Im not even getting into my own personal experiences with the man even though when he first got here he was all about the miami history & keeping the former players involved yet by the end of year 1 we were allowed nowhere close & he spit in our face by trying to say it was because of the investigation & admin & ncaa were the ones keeping us away... how fvckin stupid you think we are that admin or ncaa would say dont let alums on the sideline or at practice etc the majority of the time. It was cause he knew we saw through his bullshyt & would call him on it. I remember some of the stories quan,jermaine,juwon & kirb used to tell me bout that locker room. **** was sad how a team had so many clicks in it. No unity cause of that staff.
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I’m sure you’ve heard it all, but very little leadership, some players wouldn’t give each other the time of day. Constant fights, guys getting things stolen all the time.
 
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apfenny3 said:
I’m sure you’ve heard it all, but very little leadership, some players wouldn’t give each other the time of day. Constant fights, guys getting things stolen all the time.
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Yeah ive heard. I know who the three were that were going around snatching **** all the time. I beat the breaks off of one of em about two years ago. Ill leave it at he plays for the broncos now. Swore he was some tough ****. Tried to say cause we have some of the same boys i should be good with the bull**** he was pullin. Tried to walk up on my boat when we were at sea spice. Lmfao. He regretted that.
 
Brooklyndee said:
Yeah ive heard. I know who the three were that were going around snatching **** all the time. I beat the breaks off of one of em about two years ago. Ill leave it at he plays for the broncos now. Swore he was some tough ****. Tried to say cause we have some of the same boys i should be good with the bull**** he was pullin. Tried to walk up on my boat when we were at sea spice. Lmfao. He regretted that.
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**** bro. I’m trying got on the boat too. What’s good. Lol
 
Brooklyndee said:
Yeah ive heard. I know who the three were that were going around snatching **** all the time. I beat the breaks off of one of em about two years ago. Ill leave it at he plays for the broncos now. Swore he was some tough ****. Tried to say cause we have some of the same boys i should be good with the bull**** he was pullin. Tried to walk up on my boat when we were at sea spice. Lmfao. He regretted that.
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Snatching peoples **** would've gotten them curbstomped back in the day....Brooklyndee, imagine what would've happened if they pulled that **** when you were at UM??.....LoL.....It would've gotten real ugly.....
 
Brooklyndee said:
I know im strongly in the minority but alfrauds biggest problem was he was too loyal to his coaching friends. If he wouldve said to no d from the beginning your kool aid wont cut it here & brought along a dc that knows and coaches our style of football hes probably still here & would be for awhile. He was a complete hypocrite from anyone that knows him inside the locker room but to the public & media he was decent & couldve worked. @apfenny3 aptell them about alfrauds locker room persona so people dont say im just padding it. The man was a piece of **** hypocrite
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He absolutely needed to get rid of doritos, but that was his D the whole way. Wouldn't have helped much to have a better DC running the same defense with players who didn't fit.
 
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