NFL Scouts Evaluates the talent on UM Roster

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### Among the points raised by NFL scouts, who asked that their names not be used: This is the worst defensive line they’ve seen from the Hurricanes in many years; the defensive play-calling should be more aggressive; but Al Golden is doing about as well as can be expected with this roster.
“Look - you lost your senior class, then you lose five of your better juniors, then you lose Ray-Ray Armstrong,” one longtime scout said, also acknowledging tackle Curtis Porter’s absence due to an appendectomy. “Has any school ever lost five juniors the same year? Who the **** is left? They have young athletes, but you need some experience to win.”

### The consensus is UM must find better defensive linemen to become a big winner again. “Worst I’ve seen from a Miami team,” one longtime NFL scout said. “What they miss most is those strong, athletic, really good 6-4, 290 pounds defensive tackles. LSU and Alabama have three or four of those guys. The irony is the last couple years, Temple had a better defensive line than Miami does now. That’s how far Miami has fallen.”
Said another scout: “They just don’t have the size and strength up front. When was the last No. 1 pick they had on the defensive line?” That would be Vince Wilfork in 2004.
The scout, who observed a closed Hurricanes practice this season, said if you take the UM jersey off the back, you could not distinguish most of Miami’s front-seven defensive players from, say, Central Florida or any other FBS program not in one of the major conferences.
"I’ve never seen the upper class talent so thin there,” the scout said. “UCF might be able to beat them if they played. The overall talent is mediocre. I said at the start of the year, if Al Golden won six games, it would be a great coaching job.”

### One scout said sophomore Anthony Chickillo is getting more attention from opponents because there’s no pass-rush threat opposite him. “And Chickillo is not dynamic,” he said. “If you’re going to be his size, you need to be an explosive pass rusher.”

### One scout, asked to assess some of the others as college players (not as pro prospects): “Eddie Johnson is going to be a stud. Deon Bush is going to be a very good player but since the safeties don’t get much support up front, they are always running downhill to make tackles. That’s a lot of banging for a freshman like Bush. He’s going to be beat up.”

### An AFC scout, on defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio’s approach: “They could play a little more aggressive. If you can’t rush the passer, why sit back? Why are you seven yards off a receiver? I would be sending people left and right, playing pressure coverage. They’re giving up yards anyway.”

### Another scout questioned offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch for throwing to Robert Lockhart instead of running the ball on a third and two deep in FSU territory last week, and said Mike James – not Duke Johnson – should be used on short yardage. “Duke is not going to be a Clinton Portis or Edgerrin James, where you hand him the ball 25 times a game.”
By the way, Fisch said Saturday that UM burned Lockhart's redshirt because he "has made some amazing one-on-one playts in practice" which reminded the staff of Tommy Streeter last year.

## The scouts were optimistic about Stephen Morris improving, but one expressed concern with his accuracy issues and “lack of touch at times. He’ll be better next year. One problem is his receivers don’t catch the ball.”

### One scout said of the receivers, “I like Rashawn Scott the best, with his size. He has the most upside.” He likes Phillip Dorsett’s talent, but “it looks like the bigger the game, he’s not ready for that.” And the offensive line “is disappointing. Physically, they look as a good as any in the nation.”

### Recruiting analyst Larry Blustein said “if UM expects to keep the train rolling with the 2012 class, they need to get [Oakland Park Northeast] receiver Stacey Coley and [Booker T. Washington offensive tackle] Denver Kirkland.” (They are rated by rivals.com as ninth-best in the nation at their positions.)
He said they also must keep oral commitments Alex Collins (running back) and Kevin Olsen (quarterback).
But Collins is also considering FSU and Wisconsin and sent a tweet last week saying he has “been doing a lot of thinking” and is “close to decision time.”
Delray Beach Atlantic's Keith Bryant, rated 17th among all defensive tackles and Miami’s only oral commitment among defensive linemen, visited Purdue and has told rivals.com he’s also still considering FSU, South Carolina and won’t announce until signing day – putting UM in a bind.
Miami is in the mix for other defensive tackles, including Toby Johnson, a four-star prospect at Hutchinson (Ks.) Community College. Booker T. Washington linebacker Matthew Thomas, rated the nation’s 15[SUP]th[/SUP] best player by rivals.com, says he has Miami even with six other schools.

### Among draft-eligible players, the scouts see Brandon McGee and James as potential mid-or-later round prospects. “James has power, can catch the ball, runs hard, some shiftiness,” one scout said. “McGee has size (6-0), speed and long arms.” One scout said he wouldn’t draft junior Seantrel Henderson until late because he “can’t be counted on.”
ESPN’s Todd McShay said he entered the year with draftable grades only on Vaughn Telemaque (who lost his starting job) and McGee; he had Ramon Buchanan as a seventh-rounder before his knee injury. He said Miami’s talent “has been dwindling for the last several years and 2013 stacks up as one of the worst classes from an NFL draft standpoint since I’ve been involved.”
Remember, from 2001 to 2004, the Canes had 19 first-rounders and 35 drafted overall. From 2008 to 2012, UM had one first rounder and 22 overall.
 
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Dear Randy,

Thanks

Sincerely,

Miami Fans

In all seriousness, we need bigger, stronger and better OL, which we knew. We need better defensive coaching, which we knew. Better offensive coaching, wide receivers who can catch, a QB who can hit the WR, and someone not just named Duke to help replace James next year. Did I miss anything?
 
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Dear Randy,

Thanks

Sincerely,

Miami Fans

In all seriousness, we need bigger, stronger and better OL, which we knew. We need better defensive coaching, which we knew. Better offensive coaching, wide receivers who can catch, a QB who can hit the WR, and someone not just named Duke to help replace James next year. Did I miss anything?
better more patient fans that actually know what they are talking about.
 
I don't believe anything on that blog. I think Manny is full of ****. Plus any scout that's going to wait until the mid rounds to draft Seantrel is a moron, and an unemployed scout.
 
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I know Barry Jackson has been writing down here for years and has a stellar reputation in the media, so this article is like a cold shower after some amazing ***.

The truth is (and some of us have already seen it) that the rebuild is much bigger than 1 or 2 recruiting classes. I was convinced that Shannon at least recruited well enough to compete with competent coaching and some complimentary classes. That appears not to be the case.

The DC (won't use her real name anymore) is perhaps in the toughest spot of all. You're going to get beat regardless! Slow and methodically (giving yards away as the article says) or big plays over the top. I've noticed the corners are pressing more recently which maybe means that the young kids are developing.
 
I don't believe anything on that blog. I think Manny is full of ****. Plus any scout that's going to wait until the mid rounds to draft Seantrel is a moron, and an unemployed scout.

Do you know how many guys are 6'6 and 330lbs in the NFL draft? What do you think separates those guys in the eyes of the league besides something as subjective as talent?

And it's Barry Jackson and not Manny whatever his last name is.
 
### An AFC scout, on defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio’s approach: “They could play a little more aggressive. If you can’t rush the passer, why sit back? Why are you seven yards off a receiver? I would be sending people left and right, playing pressure coverage. They’re giving up yards anyway.”

Well I guess a lot of us on the board were right about this....
 
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### An AFC scout, on defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio’s approach: “They could play a little more aggressive. If you can’t rush the passer, why sit back? Why are you seven yards off a receiver? I would be sending people left and right, playing pressure coverage. They’re giving up yards anyway.”

Well I guess a lot of us on the board were right about this....
What is obvious to anyone who has ever watched football, is that if you put no pressure on the passer at this level, they will kill you. Period.
 
It is truly amazing that UCF/Louisville/Rutgers and possibly USF ALL have better DLs than Miami who used to turn them out like MMs

From 2005-present - what the **** were we recruiting on the DL?!?!?!?! **** **** ****....

JC
 
I don't believe anything on that blog. I think Manny is full of ****. Plus any scout that's going to wait until the mid rounds to draft Seantrel is a moron, and an unemployed scout.

Do you know how many guys are 6'6 and 330lbs in the NFL draft? What do you think separates those guys in the eyes of the league besides something as subjective as talent?

And it's Barry Jackson and not Manny whatever his last name is.

Barry has a bit more credibility....as far as Seantrel, said it before, maybe the most fluid lineman I have seen especially at 6'8 340. Serious talent that I'd be hard pressed to believe GMs will pass on for multiple rounds. Kid has legitimate 10yr/all pro type ability.
 
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It's real easy to miss on kids when recruiting. Evaluation has to be right, and the competition is ferocious. While I don't give Shannon a pass on the misses, I understand why it happens. Fortunately, (I think) the current staff understands the cost of failing in recruiting. It's the most important thing a staff does, IMO. It's going to take a driven, dedicated effort to get the right kids into the program to turn this around.

I believe most kids in any program, adopt a mindset that reflects the values of the staff. When a new staff comes in with a different set of values, some of the existing players will adopt the new mindset and many won't (at least not right away). Some of them won't see the need to change, or just plain don't want to. That's a big problem for any new coach coming from outside the program. I think that is the biggest reason for house cleaning. It's the old "get behind me, or get out of the way", and I believe in that.
 
It is truly amazing that UCF/Louisville/Rutgers and possibly USF ALL have better DLs than Miami who used to turn them out like MMs

From 2005-present - what the **** were we recruiting on the DL?!?!?!?! **** **** ****....

JC

Rutgers lost to Kent State if that makes you feel better....yes, The Kent State.
 
Need to get Coley huh? I thought he had attitude problems.....smh

I dont know how a school that lacks as much talent as us can turn down super talents in our backyard because of "attitude". WTF does that even mean?

We soo soft now we should welcome some **** attitude. We are not in a position to be turning guys away that have talent. Just cant, get off the dam high horse and get these kids here.



### An AFC scout, on defensive coordinator Mark D’Onofrio’s approach: “They could play a little more aggressive. If you can’t rush the passer, why sit back? Why are you seven yards off a receiver? I would be sending people left and right, playing pressure coverage. They’re giving up yards anyway.”

Well I guess a lot of us on the board were right about this....

It really is dumbfounding how we give up everything and not try to take anything away. We are getting tourched up and down the field for yards and points yet we dont play aggressive for fear of giving up a big play. Basically we play scared ad give ourselves no chance of the defense getting a negative play or forcing a play
 
I don't believe anything on that blog. I think Manny is full of ****. Plus any scout that's going to wait until the mid rounds to draft Seantrel is a moron, and an unemployed scout.

Umm WOW! If you look at Seantrel's full body of work there's no way he should even be considered a first-mid round pick. He was clearly overweight and underperformed in the weight room for 2 years.. This year, he slimmed down but he's still isnt a dominating OL like he was projected to be.

Right now, all anyone can say about Seantrel is that he has "All-world" potential... Unfortunately, they've been saying this for 4 years now! He hasn't put the work in until this year.. IMO, Seantrel will only be a first-mid round pick if he stays his senior year and DOMINATES! He needs to show that his on and off the field issues are clearly behind him.
 
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