Next years offense could be elite

[LuCane]

Morris has been a total handcuff on coley I think. The O has hit bumps at times this year but I think the offense will be even better with a quarter back capable of progressing past his first read and hitting open receivers in space... And more importantly in stride.

You look at FSU's receivers and their ability to gain YAC. if you give Stacey coley a competent qb and another offseason to develop i think he could be even better than them in that department. But when Morris throws every ball as hard as he can into the dirt or too high it's difficult to break a big gain. Miami offenses have always been explosive. If we have a smart QB that can hit the open man in stride and let him make a play we'll get more consistency out of the O. Right now it's big play or bust because Morris can't complete intermediate (and most of the time short) throws with any consistency.

This is why I am not worried about Williams. The knock on him seems to be that he doesn't have nearly the cannon that Morris has, but I'm not sure I can remember Morris being asked to make and NFL throw this season (i.e., a throw that Williams might not be able to make).

For those down on Coley and our team today (for example the thread saying they gave us the game), think about how many points we left out there even on completions, that, had they been in stride, would have gone for big plays or touchdowns. If anything, Morris let them hang in the game. I can remember two to Hurns where he had his man beat deep and Morris's "nfl" arm left an easy throw short. There were also a number of passes on slants, etc... where the ball location was bad and resulted in a minimal gain.

And before anyone can say it, I don't think the one throw by Williams was representative of his abilities.

Morris has made a handful of NFL throws this season. Corner routes to Herb Waters and Hurns stand out. That sideline pass for a TD to Walford comes to mind. Outside of that, I agree Williams (or anyone) can make all the throws he's been asked to make. As for the deep throws, I rather have a guy who can throw it a tick early than a guy who can throw it 60. I don't know if Williams is that guy under fire, but the reality of what Morris has given us THIS year, at least, doesn't lead me to believe there will be some incredible drop off.

Morris was neither cool in the pocket, nor a consistent and quick decision-maker this season. We can at least match that. Actually, knowing we have a QB with some limitations may force us to snap out of the delusion that we should be so explosive. We might actually, then, look like we did against Duke in that first half - hitting underneath routes, spreading the field, etc.

 

[The Franchise]

Jedd Fisch deserves a crown for what he did here.

What did he do here?

 

[Dingaan1828]

Jedd Fisch deserves a crown for what he did here.

What did he do here?

Well, he invented the forward pass for one thing.

 

[datdude81]

Golden is in a tough spot at QB next year.

If the QB competition is close, he'll be compelled to give the job to the Senior. Could be bad for morale if the hot-shot Freshman gets the benefit of the doubt.

And if either guy struggles early, there will be a lot of pressure to go to the backup.

I'm hoping Olsen tears it up in the spring and fall and takes the reins.

I agree with you here. I'm not in favor of Williams winning the QB battle, not another one and done. We need one of the young guns to win the job outright and have them for a few years.

If the first half of this game is a parallel of our future we may have nightmares because this roster of offense has talent minus Morris but our qb will have to get help from coaches in the off season

For those of you that think Williams is the answer you are kidding yourself I saw a memory of Jacory harris when he let that ball hang up in the air today in the 4th

Come on bro he got one freaking pass attempt. He certainly looked more poised against the same garbage teams that SM look flustered against. I think he is an upgrade compared to SM. I for one will not miss Stephen at all.

I look poised in garbage time minutes

 

[LuCane]

Jedd Fisch deserves a crown for what he did here.

What did he do here?

Well, he invented the forward pass for one thing.

The one thing I'll say is that he somehow convinced Stephen Morris to throw a slant route. We ate up chunks w/ that route last year. I think we've seen it a couple times, at most. We have 1 game left. That's kind of amazing that we simply lost that route in our ****nal.

 

[NotoriousJJE]

These guys can't stay on the field and they are gonna be elite?

We need to huddle after every play and really try and win the time if posession battle.

Makes no sense why we go no huddle, and give even less time to our defense

 

[avicenna75]

We have no identity on offense. One okay were 5 wide, the next play were 2 TEs.

 

[NotoriousJJE]

Can we all agree that great quarterback and Stephen Morris don't belong in the same sentence?

 

[Cat_5_Cane]

Can someone tell me what our offensive identity is under Coley?

The same as FSU 2011 and FSU 2012. None

Every game, my buddy asks why we dont use the te more. I asked him how much fsu used the te. See coley

 

[NateDogg]

Morris = talented, inconsistent, and never showed an ability to make reads. Thats his legacy (or lack thereof)

As for next year, im surprised so many on here are expecting williams to win the job. Golden has shown a propensity to default to upper classman aka guys who make fewer mental errors, but olsen is the first qb with a real pedigree we have had come to UM in quite a while.

I agree williams has shown good things in limited action and i hope both guys ball out in the spring, it will bring out the best in both of them. But for the best of UM i hope olsen wins it outright. I also expect it, because he has a stronger arm than williams and from the limited tape it looks like he has pretty good touch...hopefully SM hasnt shown him any tips on how not to throw with touch or underthrow WRs on quick slants.

Kaaya prob has more natural ability than both of them combined but i wonder if he will be given a real shot to win the job.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Jedd Fisch deserves a crown for what he did here.

What did he do here?

Well, he invented the forward pass for one thing.

The one thing I'll say is that he somehow convinced Stephen Morris to throw a slant route. We ate up chunks w/ that route last year. I think we've seen it a couple times, at most. We have 1 game left. That's kind of amazing that we simply lost that route in our ****nal.

Go watch the last few games of last year and look how quickly Morris knew where to go with the ball. Great QB's are quick decision makers who understand play concepts and defenses. To me Stephen had a much better understanding of the offense last year and I am not sure how much blame he deserves if he still looks uncomfortable in week 11

i think that it was more of fisch diagramming routes to eliminate morris having to actually make decisions. make creative combo routes, add a lot of pre-snap motion to make defensive backs think that extra second, and give him a primary route, then morris can perform (same thing happened with jacory). he struggles when he holds onto the ball and has to find something open.

 

[JHallCanes]

I have a hard time blaming Coley here. I thought his play calling early in the season was pretty solid, Morris missing a ton of plays. It's pretty clear Morris' confidence has fallen apart and Coley has pretty much cut the playbook down to 5 plays. It ain't pretty.

But I am also aware that I fell into the same trap with the guy coaching our defense so...

 

[BoxingRobes]

I'll believe it when I see it. We were supposed to have a beast offensive line for years now. We were supposed to have one of the best offenses in the nation this year. In both scenarios, neither came to be. Miami should and always will have playmakers on offense. Putting together a truly big time offense has eluded us for over a decade.

 

[JHallCanes]

I'll believe it when I see it. We were supposed to have a beast offensive line for years now. We were supposed to have one of the best offenses in the nation this year. In both scenarios, neither came to be. Miami should and always will have playmakers on offense. Putting together a truly big time offense has eluded us for over a decade.

Agreed.

Though we haven't had a WR with the potential of Stacy Coley in a long *** time. Duke getting older should help.

But still, you are on the money.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Well, he invented the forward pass for one thing.

The one thing I'll say is that he somehow convinced Stephen Morris to throw a slant route. We ate up chunks w/ that route last year. I think we've seen it a couple times, at most. We have 1 game left. That's kind of amazing that we simply lost that route in our ****nal.

Go watch the last few games of last year and look how quickly Morris knew where to go with the ball. Great QB's are quick decision makers who understand play concepts and defenses. To me Stephen had a much better understanding of the offense last year and I am not sure how much blame he deserves if he still looks uncomfortable in week 11

i think that it was more of fisch diagramming routes to eliminate morris having to actually make decisions. make creative combo routes, add a lot of pre-snap motion to make defensive backs think that extra second, and give him a primary route, then morris can perform (same thing happened with jacory). he struggles when he holds onto the ball and has to find something open.

Even if that is the case, the long developing pass concepts our offense is running are doing Morris no favors. Good coordinators adapt to what their players are good at, and I think Coley has done a poor job of that.

oh i agree with you 100% on that. i think that coley came in expecting a senior with almost 2 seasons worth of starts under his belt to be able to make good decisions and has failed to recognize his shortcomings.

 

[Awsi Dooger]

Malcolm Bunche doesn't need to be on the field if we are planning to be elite. He's like the A.J. Highsmith of offense but it doesn't stand out due to the nature of his position. Players like that are regulators. I never want to get carried away with the projections when we're still starting guys of that caliber.

For as much as they underachieved in total, we are losing several talented linemen. If the replacements play at the same percentage of their ability, it's a net loss. Those departing linemen will be in camps and faring well.

Morris is a nightmare to coach because he does some things extremely well and is inept in other areas. That quick play action fake and downfield dart to Hurns is the type of thing we should have abused all season, IMO. As soon as that play unfolded it looked great, at the exact distance at which Morris' arm strength and accuracy is most effective. If you use that guy in empty sets or in any scenario requiring finesse or perfect decision making he's going to drive you nuts.

Fisch might deserve some type of award for neglecting the running game despite effectiveness. Last season he somehow managed to be 114th in the country in rushes per game despite averaging nearly 4.7 yards per rush. It was a bully offense, nothing more. If you don't run the ball the top programs will chew you up. LSU exposed Texas A&M today with 46 rushes up the middle. Not 46 rushes total, it was 46 rushes up the gut. That's the way you buckle the newfangled finesse teams that everybody loves to crow about early in the season. It was similar to Stanford against Oregon.

I'm convinced Fisch never would have won the North Carolina game this year. That is a talented team, as their subsequent results have revealed. They were incredibly energized and motivated that night. The only way to get them out of it was to run smack at them, as Coley finally realized in the 4th quarter. A victory was available at Duke with the same mindset but Coley unfortunately saw the vulnerabilities on tape and salivated over the prospect of opening them up and spreading it out. Hence the empty set ignorance. That made for some cute early plays but it was suicidal over the course of 60 minutes, especially given the fragile defense we needed to protect. That game needed 50+ runs. If so, the burst plays would have expanded late instead of being cut off. Duke is a smart resourceful team that is more than willing to exploit you if you don't put them in their place physically.

 

[MiamiJoe]

What everyone is missing in this post is 2 things, the inability to throw the ball to RB's in space. Duke having 4 receptions in 8 games is borderline criminal. FSU killed us with RB's out of backfield. Duke had 20+ receptions last year. The other is the OL, Kehoe has lived off the 2001 line for way too long. We can't consistently make 1 yard runs when we need to. Give me a Jeff Stoutland anytime as OL coach.

 

[astabooty]

Can someone tell me what our offensive identity is under Coley?

Snap the ball quickly.

 

[Loafers]

This is a perception vs reality argument for me. As fans we tend to overrate our own team. We watch them play UVA, duke, wake, unc, nc st. Fau,USAF etc and our athletes make big plays and we get all excited. For the last two years, fisch included, against every defense with a pulse we have struggled to score more than 14pts. Individually it appears that the guys are talented but for some reason collectively they don't perform. I tend to think it's the qb. Morris is solid but not accurate enough for the offense to be where it can go. I don't know if Williams is the answer but if he isn't it won't be because of his arm strength.

 

[Hurracanes]

Didn't we say this last year? QB is a major concern, OL and TE continues to disappoint and Coley hasn't proven to be an offensive guru. I'm not sold we can be much better than this year.