NCAA to consider early signing period for HS fb recruits

[Calinative]

This will further tilt things in favor of the schools & the kids will suffer.

Please explain.

Its simple. These are 17-19 year old kids. They already can't transfer wherever they want, and have to sit out a year once they do. Having them sit out a year is fine, but not letting them transfer wherever they want is complete BS. The NCAA constantly says that these are Student-Athletes and shouldn't get any extra benefits that other students don't get. Well, I can guarantee you that other high school students aren't forced to go to school where they wanted to as juniors, over the summer, or even early senior year. Other students "commit" and "decommit" all the time. My point in saying this is, it isn't just football players or basketball players that are changing their mind in where they want to go to school, every 17-19 year old choosing a college goes through this.

And a lot of the time when these kids commit to a school, they are doing it because they genuinely want to go there. But what happens if these loopholes you claim will be available to them (which I'm not sure they will be), aren't met, but in the kids senior year he had a change of heart and wants to go somewhere that he will get a better education at?

The problem isn't kids committing and decommitting, it's the attention fans and the media gives to it thats the problem.

 

[Consigliere]

This will further tilt things in favor of the schools & the kids will suffer.

Please explain.

Its simple. These are 17-19 year old kids. They already can't transfer wherever they want, and have to sit out a year once they do. Having them sit out a year is fine, but not letting them transfer wherever they want is complete BS. The NCAA constantly says that these are Student-Athletes and shouldn't get any extra benefits that other students don't get. Well, I can guarantee you that other high school students aren't forced to go to school where they wanted to as juniors, over the summer, or even early senior year. Other students "commit" and "decommit" all the time. My point in saying this is, it isn't just football players or basketball players that are changing their mind in where they want to go to school, every 17-19 year old choosing a college goes through this.

And a lot of the time when these kids commit to a school, they are doing it because they genuinely want to go there. But what happens if these loopholes you claim will be available to them (which I'm not sure they will be), aren't met, but in the kids senior year he had a change of heart and wants to go somewhere that he will get a better education at?

The problem isn't kids committing and decommitting, it's the attention fans and the media gives to it thats the problem.

Wow. So don't sign. Any questions? Stick to the regular signing day.

 

[Calinative]

This will further tilt things in favor of the schools & the kids will suffer.

Please explain.

Its simple. These are 17-19 year old kids. They already can't transfer wherever they want, and have to sit out a year once they do. Having them sit out a year is fine, but not letting them transfer wherever they want is complete BS. The NCAA constantly says that these are Student-Athletes and shouldn't get any extra benefits that other students don't get. Well, I can guarantee you that other high school students aren't forced to go to school where they wanted to as juniors, over the summer, or even early senior year. Other students "commit" and "decommit" all the time. My point in saying this is, it isn't just football players or basketball players that are changing their mind in where they want to go to school, every 17-19 year old choosing a college goes through this.

And a lot of the time when these kids commit to a school, they are doing it because they genuinely want to go there. But what happens if these loopholes you claim will be available to them (which I'm not sure they will be), aren't met, but in the kids senior year he had a change of heart and wants to go somewhere that he will get a better education at?

The problem isn't kids committing and decommitting, it's the attention fans and the media gives to it thats the problem.

Wow. So don't sign. Any questions? Stick to the regular signing day.

But the problem I clearly wrote was, that a lot of these 17yr olds are fully committed and want to go to the school when they publicly commit. So if you have an early signing day and these kids are fully on board, what happens if 6 months later they realize they no longer want to go to school for business and they now want to go for marine science?
You say they will "have an out" via these loopholes, but if everyone can just get out of this early NLI, what is the point in having it? And if a kid 17-19 can't freely choose what school he want's to go to that is a big problem. Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

 

[Consigliere]

But the problem I clearly wrote was, that a lot of these 17yr olds are fully committed and want to go to the school when they publicly commit. So if you have an early signing day and these kids are fully on board, what happens if 6 months later they realize they no longer want to go to school for business and they now want to go for marine science?

Wow. Are you serious?

THEN DON'T SIGN ON EARLY SD. No one is forcing the kid to sign early. If you're concerned about 6 months from now, then don't ***ing sign on early SD. How difficult is that? Your problem is not a problem.

As for your fictional issue, I chuckled. So under your hypothetical stupid situation, a HS senior has decided their major prior to signing early. Then they realize, after they sign, they want to change their major. Is this real life? Is this a real situation? Are you really concerned about a kid that wants to change majors twice before enrolling? Again, if you're concerned about your major, then don't sign on early SD.

You say they will "have an out" via these loopholes, but if everyone can just get out of this early NLI, what is the point in having it? And if a kid 17-19 can't freely choose what school he want's to go to that is a big problem. Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

No. Can you read? There are major issues that may happen after a player signs (i.e. the HC is fired or goes somewhere else). If one of these MAJOR issues occur, then the kid can opt out. So no, I never said "everyone can just get out of this early NLI".

Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

Listen Potato. No one is forcing the kids to sign early. They don't have to sign early. Can you read this point? No one is forcing the kid to sign early.

No one is forcing the kid to sign early.

No one is forcing the kid to sign early.

No one is forcing the kid to sign early.

No one is forcing the kid to sign early.

The kids are STILL free to sign on regular NSD.


IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT, THEN DON'T SIGN ON EARLY SD.

 

[well docUmented]

What would a good recruit gain, from signing early?

 

[Gatorhater]

As a fan I like it. If I was a recruit I wouldn't. They should at least have rules that if there is a coaching change (even position coach), they should be able to get out of it.

I could see the need to put in a more formal "Official Recruiter / Secondary Recruiter" system...obviously most kids are recruited by a lot of guys on one staff, but this way if 1 of the 2 officially listed recruiters left the kid would have an out.

I don't think this would change much for a lot of South Florida kids. The elite ones will hold out to the end anyway, and they will play the same games they currently play, because staffs and fans will continue to allow it. It would benefit us with a kid like Byrd last year. If in December he's not ready to sign after being committed for 2 years, you take that as an omen and find different options.

I think it would enhance our local edge. We know about some kids earlier and maybe we sign them before they blow up in senior year. Plus it drives SEC bagman cost up. They might end up having to pay kids to NOT sign with someone early just to keep an option on them.

 

[Consigliere]

What would a good recruit gain, from signing early?

1. Guaranteed spot.

2. No other school could contact them.

3. Focus on themselves and not worry about their college decision.

 

[Calinative]

But the problem I clearly wrote was, that a lot of these 17yr olds are fully committed and want to go to the school when they publicly commit. So if you have an early signing day and these kids are fully on board, what happens if 6 months later they realize they no longer want to go to school for business and they now want to go for marine science?

Wow. Are you serious?

THEN DON'T SIGN ON EARLY SD. No one is forcing the kid to sign early. If you're concerned about 6 months from now, then don't ***ing sign on early SD. How difficult is that? Your problem is not a problem.

As for your fictional issue, I chuckled. So under your hypothetical stupid situation, a HS senior has decided their major prior to signing early. Then they realize, after they sign, they want to change their major. Is this real life? Is this a real situation? Are you really concerned about a kid that wants to change majors twice before enrolling? Again, if you're concerned about your major, then don't sign on early SD.

You say they will "have an out" via these loopholes, but if everyone can just get out of this early NLI, what is the point in having it? And if a kid 17-19 can't freely choose what school he want's to go to that is a big problem. Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

No. Can you read? There are major issues that may happen after a player signs (i.e. the HC is fired or goes somewhere else). If one of these MAJOR issues occur, then the kid can opt out. So no, I never said "everyone can just get out of this early NLI".

Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

You're entire post is stupid.
Changing what major you may want in college is possibly the best reason to choose one school over another. If I originally wanted to go to school for business and was committed to ND and signed, what if I wanted to change my major to marine science, where a school like Miami would clearly be better? What if you originally were just planning on going for some BS sports managment degree, but then changed your mind and want to switch to engineering where some schools are clearly better than others? You act like no football player has ever decided what college to go to based on academics.

And like I just said twice, saying well "just dont sign" is stupid. The reason most of these kids commit is because they are all in on the school. They don't commit with the mentality that 4 months from now they will be committing to a different school. That would be retarded.
Like I said, the only one making decommits a big deal is fans and the media. All an early signing period will do is lead to more transfers and take even more freedom from these student-athletes.

 

[Consigliere]

But the problem I clearly wrote was, that a lot of these 17yr olds are fully committed and want to go to the school when they publicly commit. So if you have an early signing day and these kids are fully on board, what happens if 6 months later they realize they no longer want to go to school for business and they now want to go for marine science?

Wow. Are you serious?

THEN DON'T SIGN ON EARLY SD. No one is forcing the kid to sign early. If you're concerned about 6 months from now, then don't ***ing sign on early SD. How difficult is that? Your problem is not a problem.

As for your fictional issue, I chuckled. So under your hypothetical stupid situation, a HS senior has decided their major prior to signing early. Then they realize, after they sign, they want to change their major. Is this real life? Is this a real situation? Are you really concerned about a kid that wants to change majors twice before enrolling? Again, if you're concerned about your major, then don't sign on early SD.

You say they will "have an out" via these loopholes, but if everyone can just get out of this early NLI, what is the point in having it? And if a kid 17-19 can't freely choose what school he want's to go to that is a big problem. Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

No. Can you read? There are major issues that may happen after a player signs (i.e. the HC is fired or goes somewhere else). If one of these MAJOR issues occur, then the kid can opt out. So no, I never said "everyone can just get out of this early NLI".

Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

You're entire post is stupid.
Changing what major you may want in college is possibly the best reason to choose one school over another. If I originally wanted to go to school for business and was committed to ND and signed, what if I wanted to change my major to marine science, where a school like Miami would clearly be better? What if you originally were just planning on going for some BS sports managment degree, but then changed your mind and want to switch to engineering where some schools are clearly better than others? You act like no football player has ever decided what college to go to based on academics.

And like I just said twice, saying well "just dont sign" is stupid. The reason most of these kids commit is because they are all in on the school. They don't commit with the mentality that 4 months from now they will be committing to a different school. That would be retarded.
Like I said, the only one making decommits a big deal is fans and the media. All an early signing period will do is lead to more transfers and take even more freedom from these student-athletes.

There is no way you graduated from an accredited school. Reading comprehension, nope. Queen of the tangent, yes.

 

[sebringcanethang23]

But the problem I clearly wrote was, that a lot of these 17yr olds are fully committed and want to go to the school when they publicly commit. So if you have an early signing day and these kids are fully on board, what happens if 6 months later they realize they no longer want to go to school for business and they now want to go for marine science?

Wow. Are you serious?

THEN DON'T SIGN ON EARLY SD. No one is forcing the kid to sign early. If you're concerned about 6 months from now, then don't ***ing sign on early SD. How difficult is that? Your problem is not a problem.

As for your fictional issue, I chuckled. So under your hypothetical stupid situation, a HS senior has decided their major prior to signing early. Then they realize, after they sign, they want to change their major. Is this real life? Is this a real situation? Are you really concerned about a kid that wants to change majors twice before enrolling? Again, if you're concerned about your major, then don't sign on early SD.

You say they will "have an out" via these loopholes, but if everyone can just get out of this early NLI, what is the point in having it? And if a kid 17-19 can't freely choose what school he want's to go to that is a big problem. Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

No. Can you read? There are major issues that may happen after a player signs (i.e. the HC is fired or goes somewhere else). If one of these MAJOR issues occur, then the kid can opt out. So no, I never said "everyone can just get out of this early NLI".

Choosing the right college is the biggest decision a 17-19 yr old will likely make, and now you want them to be locked into a decision they make as a junior? Thats just crazy.

You're entire post is stupid.
Changing what major you may want in college is possibly the best reason to choose one school over another. If I originally wanted to go to school for business and was committed to ND and signed, what if I wanted to change my major to marine science, where a school like Miami would clearly be better? What if you originally were just planning on going for some BS sports managment degree, but then changed your mind and want to switch to engineering where some schools are clearly better than others? You act like no football player has ever decided what college to go to based on academics.

And like I just said twice, saying well "just dont sign" is stupid. The reason most of these kids commit is because they are all in on the school. They don't commit with the mentality that 4 months from now they will be committing to a different school. That would be retarded.
Like I said, the only one making decommits a big deal is fans and the media. All an early signing period will do is lead to more transfers and take even more freedom from these student-athletes.

There is no way you graduated from an accredited school. Reading comprehension, nope. Queen of the tangent, yes.

Agreed i changed my major twice but when i got to school and realized it was not for me. If its that big a deal and this great school doesnt offer a decent program then transfer. I mean Myron Rolle was a go**** Rhodes scholar at FSU. It pays to go to a good school bit if your great at what you do you will be fine in life.

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[kryptonite]

Yeah, still don't get it. The kids who play games are valued enough to still be able to do so. So the 3 and some 4* kids sign early and the 5* and upper 4* wait knowing they can afford to. Does anybody really thing that coaches will really fill those last spots early if there are still 5* kids waiting until the end? I'm all for cutting out the games, but I don't see how ALLOWING kids to sign early will FORCE the good ones to do it.

 

[Al Foil]

Yes.

Kids will start taking official visits the summer before their senior year which is a good thing so they can focus on school.

 

[The Franchise]

If the SEC wants it then it'll happen. If not then it won't.

 

[The Franchise]

What would a good recruit gain, from signing early?

Not all top recruits are wishy washy game-playing flim flam *****. Some are solid guys who know where they want to be, aren't looking to play a facqy hat game on NSD, and don't want to keep being pestered by other schools all day and night.