NCAA rejects Miami motion

[BODESLAM]

be thankful that

1. Shapiro is a criminal
2. The NCAA went after Miami with a point to prove
3. NCAA decided to bed/break every rule they have to try to bring down miami
4. Shapiro hired a greedy scum attorney EP
5. EP decided to help the NCAA
6. Peewee Allen gave a full testimony and brought up information that the NCAA later used to follow up on other items
7. The NCAA investigator wrote letters behalf of Shapiro
8. Emerrett is the current president of the NCAA


remember kids, weather we like it or not Miami players took money and gifts from Shapiro, so the best case scenario here was actually... this lol

NCAA messed up their own case. I think the punishment we served on ourselves is fair and that is that

If the NCAA did not ***** this up we would of been done.

Completely agree.

COSIGNED BUT THERE'S NO ******' WAY WE WOULD HAVE BEEN 'DONE' .....THIS AIN'T NO PED STATE CASE.....****, EVEN TED "THE BUTCHER" BUNDY WAS AFFORDED DUE PROCESS W/O PREJUDICE......

 

[Problem2]

"### The NCAA confirmed to UM last week that it’s throwing out all of Kyle Wright’s incriminating claims against the Hurricanes because they may have resulted from Sean Allen’s improperly-obtained testimony. But if Nevin Shapiro had his way, Wright never would become embroiled in this.
Shapiro never implicated Wright to the NCAA – though he allegedly accepting trips from Shapiro’s sports agency (to the Bahamas, a concert in Detroit).

Why?

“Kyle got [expletive] by UM and Randy Shannon specifically,” Shapiro said, explaining why Wright was the only player he excluded. “UM really did that kid bad. He came from California and gave up a lot to do so and they [expletive] all over him. They left him to defend for himself against a clown like Randy Shannon.

“Kirby Freeman ahead of him in the quarterback competition? Get the [bleep] out of here. Kirby couldn’t beat me out and I’m 44,” claiming he out-threw Freeman in a competition on UM’s practice field. OK then.

Wright declined to comment, through his father. The NCAA claimed Wright called the NCAA to report UM; Wright told UM it was the other way around.

### Turns out, most of the basketball violations were revealed to the NCAA (involving use of airlines miles for Durand Scott, his AAU coach and Reggie Johnson’s mother and sister), because UM gave the NCAA e-mails “from Jorge Fernandez’s institutional account” when asked by the NCAA.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

 

[ThePorge]

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

 

[Consigliere]

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

Truth.

 

[SBAMACANE]

Ole Miss is straight rolling thru recruiting and daring the NCAA to look at them. I still can't get over their haul last year!

 

[CANE]

If only MIAMI had joined the $ec. . . (face palm)

 

[bransuperpower]

im not worried because when we are done the NCAA is going to beg us to "settle"

 

[pook187]

Some of you should self ban. Seriously. Yes the ncaa needs to find stuff bc we already sat two bowls. What profound logic! The ncaa shouldbthrow out the case bc it is built on fecal matter. Deal with the consequences when you lie and cheat to find BS.

D$ when are you cleaning this cesspool?

Bruh you need to calm down..

Are you related to Jim Pager?

 

[Ethnicsands]

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

I have been saying this for months if not over a year. And I got attacked by a lot of folks who thought DS had played this all perfectly. I said then, and still believe, DS herself would play it differently if she could go back and do it over. Cooperation here was not reciprocated.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

I have been saying this for months if not over a year. And I got attacked by a lot of folks who thought DS had played this all perfectly. I said then, and still believe, DS herself would play it differently if she could go back and do it over. Cooperation here was not reciprocated.

I've called you out for this BS every time, but still you come back with it.

Let's say we don't cooperate. We're still looking at a 2+ year investigation in which the NCAA is going to try to **** us however they can. We're still looking at them getting dirt on us from Marve and other unhappy customers who were granted immunity. Etc, etc. And we'd only just now be getting to the judgement stage, with our punishment (and there would still be punishment, don't kid yourself) still to come.

As is, our cooperation and self-imposed penalties bought us a continuous stream of good press, to the point that the whole nation now views us as the good guys and the NCAA as the bad guys. Our cooperation is what forced the NCAAs hand to get them to investigate MEP and to drop Wright's testimony. We have the upper hand--which we wouldn't have if we hadn't cooperated. And we've gotten our punishment behind us, and will likely get off with nothing more.

 

[UMcanesfan420]

So Kyle and Shapiro were *** for each other. Makes sense.


I wonder if Kyle sends him correspondence in prison with pics of him in his nurse's uniform.

 

[FullyERicht]

In other words Shapiros telling of tales depended on if he liked a player or coach or not.

Makes a lot of sense to trust him, right NCAA *****?

 

[CspotOandG]

In other words Shapiros telling of tales depended on if he liked a player or coach or not.

Makes a lot of sense to trust him, right NCAA ****s?

Sure, as long as he said it twice.

 

[Canesfan1899]

The entire process is completely ****ed.

Why is the hearing way in June? Why couldn't it have been this month or last month if they have all the evidence already? I mean, they were investigating Miami for two years.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Agreed, they have screwed us enough with as long as they have let this simmer and draw out.

 

[RiDLer80]

What’s more likely is that the eight infractions committee members who are assigned to the case would hear all of the evidence from UM, the coaches, and the NCAA’s enforcement staff and then make a decision in the aftermath – a decision that could take weeks or a few months.

A few weeks or a few months. I'm gonna guess the longest time possible because the NCAA takes their sweet time with everything they do. The COI has had the NOA for months, and the school's/coaches motions to dismiss for a month or two.

They're going to hear the same things said that they should have already read, and they still have to take this long to make a decision? **** everything about the NCAA.

 

[BALDYCHUTES]

Cooperation is never reciprocated during the investigation phase.

If the cooperative approach bears fruit, any at all, it will be during the penalty phase, where it will be offered by UM as what amounts to an affirmative defense. That is not to say your conclusion is wrong. You may well be proven correct. But, nobody can conclude yet that cooperation was a blunder because the issue has not yet arisen.

IMO, if the NCAA is going to accept the self-imposed penalties and let UM go with light additional sanctions, the "cooperation" justification will be the hook to mollify the masses who want UM's head on a platter.

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

I have been saying this for months if not over a year. And I got attacked by a lot of folks who thought DS had played this all perfectly. I said then, and still believe, DS herself would play it differently if she could go back and do it over. Cooperation here was not reciprocated.

 

[NoahZach]

Cooperation is never reciprocated during the investigation phase.

If the cooperative approach bears fruit, any at all, it will be during the penalty phase, where it will be offered by UM as what amounts to an affirmative defense. That is not to say your conclusion is wrong. You may well be proven correct. But, nobody can conclude yet that cooperation was a blunder because the issue has not yet arisen.

IMO, if the NCAA is going to accept the self-imposed penalties and let UM go with light additional sanctions, the "cooperation" justification will be the hook to mollify the masses who want UM's head on a platter.

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

I have been saying this for months if not over a year. And I got attacked by a lot of folks who thought DS had played this all perfectly. I said then, and still believe, DS herself would play it differently if she could go back and do it over. Cooperation here was not reciprocated.

And what was interpreted to be a lack of cooperation from USC appears to have been a factor considered by the COI in that case.

 

[Consigliere]

Cooperation is never reciprocated during the investigation phase.

If the cooperative approach bears fruit, any at all, it will be during the penalty phase, where it will be offered by UM as what amounts to an affirmative defense. That is not to say your conclusion is wrong. You may well be proven correct. But, nobody can conclude yet that cooperation was a blunder because the issue has not yet arisen.

IMO, if the NCAA is going to accept the self-imposed penalties and let UM go with light additional sanctions, the "cooperation" justification will be the hook to mollify the masses who want UM's head on a platter.

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

I have been saying this for months if not over a year. And I got attacked by a lot of folks who thought DS had played this all perfectly. I said then, and still believe, DS herself would play it differently if she could go back and do it over. Cooperation here was not reciprocated.

I disagree 100%. If you are not cooperating, then the penalty would be worse...see USC. Cooperating cannot hurt you under normal legal investigation. It is when you hide and lie that you risk increased penalty.

Also, how is cooperating an affirmative defense? It is more of a mitigation of punishment.

 

[NVA CANE]

What’s more likely is that the eight infractions committee members who are assigned to the case would hear all of the evidence from UM, the coaches, and the NCAA’s enforcement staff and then make a decision in the aftermath – a decision that could take weeks or a few months.

A few weeks or a few months. I'm gonna guess the longest time possible because the NCAA takes their sweet time with everything they do. The COI has had the NOA for months, and the school's/coaches motions to dismiss for a month or two.

They're going to hear the same things said that they should have already read, and they still have to take this long to make a decision? **** everything about the NCAA.

This. How does it take weeks or months to come down with a judgement when you've had the evidence for months and the rebuttals. **** the NCAA

 

[AsylumGodfather]

Cooperation is never reciprocated during the investigation phase.

If the cooperative approach bears fruit, any at all, it will be during the penalty phase, where it will be offered by UM as what amounts to an affirmative defense. That is not to say your conclusion is wrong. You may well be proven correct. But, nobody can conclude yet that cooperation was a blunder because the issue has not yet arisen.

IMO, if the NCAA is going to accept the self-imposed penalties and let UM go with light additional sanctions, the "cooperation" justification will be the hook to mollify the masses who want UM's head on a platter.

In hindsight, we should have told the NCAA to go **** itself instead of cooperating, no?

That's the funny thing about the NCAAs action in this case. They have screwed themselves to ever receive cooperation again by they way they have treated Miami. Well, unless of course you're a SEC team, they seem to have a endless stack of get out of jail free cards in their back pocket. It has been baffling to watch some of the NCAAs actions as of late.


:stormwarning:

I have been saying this for months if not over a year. And I got attacked by a lot of folks who thought DS had played this all perfectly. I said then, and still believe, DS herself would play it differently if she could go back and do it over. Cooperation here was not reciprocated.

I disagree 100%. If you are not cooperating, then the penalty would be worse...see USC. Cooperating cannot hurt you under normal legal investigation. It is when you hide and lie that you risk increased penalty.

Also, how is cooperating an affirmative defense? It is more of a mitigation of punishment.

Remember Georgia Tech got hammered and got stripped of their ACC Championship over $312 in merchandise and did not cooperate with the NCAA. Miami cooperating with the NCAA in the investigation has helped Miami & their attorneys garner the ammo needed to bury the NCAA in the media ****storm and possible Civil Action.