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DancingBear said:
Emmert dismisses the Auburn allegations of coaches paying players by a respected sportswriter as a newspaper story but puts the death penalty publicly on the table based on a yahoo story written by an un respected journalist,Robinson,when it is Miami.Emmertt is not impartial,honest,nor has noble interest at heart.He will ruin kids,coaches,and schools and throw them under the bus unjusifiably to enhance his personal resources.
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Believe me that quote will be used by the U in the future.
 
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TheSwagger1 said:
As great as all this is, I can't shake the feeling that the NCAA's smirking and waiting to play the "**** you, we're the NCAA, we're about to show you what happens when programs get uppity" card, and then just wait to pounce on us if we sneeze incorrectly for the next 50 years.
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They're not in any sort of position to be playing any "card". Fans are scared because they're scared of the ncaa being this mega bully, but this is like Christmas Story where Scott Farkas bullies all the neighborhood kids forever and has them scared to death until Ralphie beats the **** out of him. UM is Ralphie right now raining down blows. Mark Farkas has no more cards to play here.
 
Reading that document has me even more ****ed than before. Durand Scott should look into hiring an attorney
 
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http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...wake-of-selena-roberts-scandal-article-040413

“So you obviously believe that those allegations are true, and you have evidence that they’re true and you’re saying, `OK, here’s the facts, so why don’t you throw the book at Auburn?’ ’’ Emmert said, when asked why a reporter knows more about what’s happening than the NCAA does, even after it already investigated Auburn. “We have a higher responsibility when we’re saying somebody’s committed some offense than reading a newspaper story. . .
“The notion that I should be surprised or anybody should be surprised that the newspaper story talks about some alleged behavior that we don’t know about is hardly shocking.’’
It was a good argument, a good way to swing the discussion away from why Selena Roberts could get athletes to say things to her, after the NCAA couldn’t.
And the truth is, in some ways, the NCAA is getting an unfair rap on that one point.
College sports are all about rules violations now, and there’s no way for a handful of investigators to stay on top of that entirely.
I know a former investigator of the Securities Exchange Commission who asked me years ago why I thought they had gone so strongly after Martha Stewart.
Because she broke the law?
Sure, partly. But her crimes didn’t amount to anywhere near what happens in big business. So why her?
To make a statement. There was no way to get all the violations around the country, so they needed a big-name example to send the loudest possible message.
 
The Franchise said:
TheSwagger1 said:
As great as all this is, I can't shake the feeling that the NCAA's smirking and waiting to play the "**** you, we're the NCAA, we're about to show you what happens when programs get uppity" card, and then just wait to pounce on us if we sneeze incorrectly for the next 50 years.
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They're not in any sort of position to be playing any "card". Fans are scared because they're scared of the ncaa being this mega bully, but this is like Christmas Story where Scott Farkas bullies all the neighborhood kids forever and has them scared to death until Ralphie beats the **** out of him. UM is Ralphie right now raining down blows. Mark Farkas has no more cards to play here.
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If UM doesn't blow the NCAA up now(which I'm all in on) than within the next 5 to 10 years the conference alignments will be complete with 5 sixteen team super conferences and they "The Super Conferences" will finally tell the NCAA to buzz off.......... So don't be afraid of a backlash in the future from these corrupt MFers........
 
UM and every other school should be raining down blows on the NCAA at this point as the NCAA is more vulnerable than our DTs last season.
 
Jeremy Fowler
Lawyer familiar w/ NCAA cases describes Miami motion to dismiss 'uniquely aggressive.' My guess: Can't lose public opinion pelting NCAA
11:20am - 5 Apr 13
 
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Consigliere said:
nadiamufdi said:
Reading that document has me even more ****ed than before. Durand Scott should look into hiring an attorney
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From the selfish point of view, don't we have a better chance of beating FSU with him last year in the ACCT?
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Pretty much. And to do it hours before the game while we already have our game plan in when we offered to do it weeks ago? Not to mention, Reggie missed one game and Durand missed 6 total including this year
 
I have been calling for over 2 wks and received a phone call the other day from Senator Abruzzo's office they said the case is still being reviewed as new information comes in
 
NVA CANE said:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...wake-of-selena-roberts-scandal-article-040413

“So you obviously believe that those allegations are true, and you have evidence that they’re true and you’re saying, `OK, here’s the facts, so why don’t you throw the book at Auburn?’ ’’ Emmert said, when asked why a reporter knows more about what’s happening than the NCAA does, even after it already investigated Auburn. “We have a higher responsibility when we’re saying somebody’s committed some offense than reading a newspaper story. . .
“The notion that I should be surprised or anybody should be surprised that the newspaper story talks about some alleged behavior that we don’t know about is hardly shocking.’’
It was a good argument, a good way to swing the discussion away from why Selena Roberts could get athletes to say things to her, after the NCAA couldn’t.
And the truth is, in some ways, the NCAA is getting an unfair rap on that one point.
College sports are all about rules violations now, and there’s no way for a handful of investigators to stay on top of that entirely.
I know a former investigator of the Securities Exchange Commission who asked me years ago why I thought they had gone so strongly after Martha Stewart.
Because she broke the law?
Sure, partly. But her crimes didn’t amount to anywhere near what happens in big business. So why her?
To make a statement. There was no way to get all the violations around the country, so they needed a big-name example to send the loudest possible message.
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See I don't buy the "enforcement has too difficult a job argument".

They had UNC basketball on a platter. A top 3 all time national brand, right there to "make a statment" with. The investigation work was already done for them. No pun intended, but it was a slam dunk. And they CHOSE not to do a thing.

And so the man who gave a 17 minute speech about academics Friday also said "well academics is a university concern" when it came to UNC basketball.

This is why the whole "well they want to do their jobs but it's too hard" theory holds ZERO water.
 
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GoldenShowers said:
NVA CANE said:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoo...wake-of-selena-roberts-scandal-article-040413

“So you obviously believe that those allegations are true, and you have evidence that they’re true and you’re saying, `OK, here’s the facts, so why don’t you throw the book at Auburn?’ ’’ Emmert said, when asked why a reporter knows more about what’s happening than the NCAA does, even after it already investigated Auburn. “We have a higher responsibility when we’re saying somebody’s committed some offense than reading a newspaper story. . .
“The notion that I should be surprised or anybody should be surprised that the newspaper story talks about some alleged behavior that we don’t know about is hardly shocking.’’
It was a good argument, a good way to swing the discussion away from why Selena Roberts could get athletes to say things to her, after the NCAA couldn’t.
And the truth is, in some ways, the NCAA is getting an unfair rap on that one point.
College sports are all about rules violations now, and there’s no way for a handful of investigators to stay on top of that entirely.
I know a former investigator of the Securities Exchange Commission who asked me years ago why I thought they had gone so strongly after Martha Stewart.
Because she broke the law?
Sure, partly. But her crimes didn’t amount to anywhere near what happens in big business. So why her?
To make a statement. There was no way to get all the violations around the country, so they needed a big-name example to send the loudest possible message.
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See I don't buy the "enforcement has too difficult a job argument".

They had UNC basketball on a platter. A top 3 all time national brand, right there to "make a statment" with. The investigation work was already done for them. No pun intended, but it was a slam dunk. And they CHOSE not to do a thing.

And so the man who gave a 17 minute speech about academics Friday also said "well academics is a university concern" when it came to UNC basketball.

This is why the whole "well they want to do their jobs but it's too hard" theory holds ZERO water.
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How about OSU? You know where the HC was well aware of what was going on? There were emails with direct knowledge.
 
Some people say they want this to end. I think now is the time to get some changes and the only thing that will do that is if the NCAA is raked over the coals in court where they can't squirm away. I'd go for an apology, and I'd go for punitive damages. Nothing else is going to cause a real change in the system.
 
FSU had the academic cheating thing too. That went away pretty quick and easy for them also.


Yet, here we are with one of the best APR's out there and it counts for ****. But Emmert is up there championing the whole APR thing as a good thing he did.
 
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TheSwagger1 said:
As great as all this is, I can't shake the feeling that the NCAA's smirking and waiting to play the "**** you, we're the NCAA, we're about to show you what happens when programs get uppity" card, and then just wait to pounce on us if we sneeze incorrectly for the next 50 years.
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This is what I was thinking... This isn't a court of law. They are the judge, jury, and executioner. I hope you and I are wrong, but I don't think this thing just goes away.
 
Problem2 said:
Jeremy Fowler
Lawyer familiar w/ NCAA cases describes Miami motion to dismiss 'uniquely aggressive.' My guess: Can't lose public opinion pelting NCAA
11:20am - 5 Apr 13
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Bet your *** it was "uniquely aggressive". For good reason too, and not the obvious ones. It was uniquely aggressive because sometimes you want to show your adversary where you will take things, if they force you to. You give them an out, and hope they will take it. They can save face, act tough, but at the end of the day they better just walk away, with their big talk intact. We will see. Many of us have been in situations like this, and usually it works out the way it should (walk away, reputation seemingly intact), but there is always the tough guy that won't back down and needs to be put down. I think the NCAA's higher thinkers will prevail, and find a way for everyone to walk away, but then again.....
 
I liked the end where Miami used Emert own words against them. I said as much in a post right after Emert made the remark about why he shouldn't be fired. NCAA charges us with loic because some low level employee got an email about shapiro(allegedly) but Emert thinks its stupid to fire him cause one of his minions did something wrong. Hypocrisy at its finest
 
TooColdToHold said:
I'm going to make a prediction based on nothing but a hunch. I think some of the stuff Reynold's is hinting at is going to include the involvement of the NCAA in getting the Yahoo hit piece published.
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Didn't Shalala hint at folks in the NCAA leaking stuff to the media in one of her press statements?
You raise an interesting point.
 
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