Miami at UNC

[jackedaround]

what a win. on the road again. team is getting better.

 

[TC@ne]

The Miami Heat could use Jordan Miller right now....Would love to get that guy int he Heat development program. You guys think he is a 2nd rd pick up type?.

Thinking the same thing. I usually know too much about our Canes to want them on Phins/Heat/Marlins.

But Jordan Miller sign me tf up.

 

[hotshot]

I think we are gonna need Casey to give a few meaningful minutes to make the kind of run that dreams are made of.

Honestly I thought tonight was encouraging. He’s still not ready but I think he’s getting closer.

Other than that I’m fine with our bench… bench players are bench players for a reason.

All good points. I took a lot of positives from the fact we won despite Norchard being limited due to fouls. If someone told me he'd only have 5 pts and 7 boards I would have said we're likely not winning this game. Others stepped up very nicely.

 

[MiamiJoe]

I was thinking about this last night while watching J Miller put on a clinic like he does nightly.

I believe Jordan Miller in 2 years has cemented himself as one of the overall better ball players L has had during his tenure here at Miami. When I reference that I’m talking a guy that does it all every night to help his team win. Not necessarily talking about the freak show Uber talented guys like Lonnie and Bruce just pure hoopers that impact the game in so many ways on a nightly basis.

Davon Reed and Jordan Miller are my #1 and #2 on that list for me. And for those that know my post history I think Davon Reed is all that and a bag of chips so it’s extremely high praise for me to say J Miller is on par with him.

If we go on another post season run this year I think the argument could be made that he’s the most important player in miami hoops history.

Sorry but Rick Barry has that title locked away

 

[Pentagon Cane]

The Miami Heat could use Jordan Miller right now....Would love to get that guy int he Heat development program. You guys think he is a 2nd rd pick up type?.

Does it really matter? He is going to be a terrific pro. He has length and athleticism and is a such a well rounded and intelligent player. Might be the most undervalued player in the nation right now.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Sorry but Rick Barry has that title locked away

Important or best? Rick is clearly the latter. As for important, we will see but this team has a high ceiling in a year that the tournament looks to be wide open.

 

[pubmedu]

I was thinking about this last night while watching J Miller put on a clinic like he does nightly.

I believe Jordan Miller in 2 years has cemented himself as one of the overall better ball players L has had during his tenure here at Miami. When I reference that I’m talking a guy that does it all every night to help his team win. Not necessarily talking about the freak show Uber talented guys like Lonnie and Bruce just pure hoopers that impact the game in so many ways on a nightly basis.

Davon Reed and Jordan Miller are my #1 and #2 on that list for me. And for those that know my post history I think Davon Reed is all that and a bag of chips so it’s extremely high praise for me to say J Miller is on par with him.

If we go on another post season run this year I think the argument could be made that he’s the most important player in miami hoops history.

 

[CBurrr93]

This team would be a top 2 seed if it remembered how to play basketball the last 5 minutes of games. Fun year gentlemen

 

[Madabs]

Please explain how this makes sense. They all have 1 Quad 3 loss. Miami has 9 Quad 1-2 the rest have 8. There shouldn't be such a huge difference in the Net

School (Net)

Conference

Record

Road

Neutral

Home

Quad 1

Quad 2

Quad 3

Quad 4

Gonzaga (12)

WCC

20-5

5-2

4-2

11-1

3-4

5-0

6-1

6-0

Creighton (14)

Big East

17-8

3-4

2-3

12-1

4-5

4-2

5-1

4-0

Marquette (15)

Big East

20-6

6-4

1-1

13-1

4-5

4-0

5-1

7-0

Miami (FL) (30)

ACC

21-5

6-4

1-1

14-0

5-4

4-0

5-1

7-0

 

[AtlAtty]

I was thinking about this last night while watching J Miller put on a clinic like he does nightly.

I believe Jordan Miller in 2 years has cemented himself as one of the overall better ball players L has had during his tenure here at Miami. When I reference that I’m talking a guy that does it all every night to help his team win. Not necessarily talking about the freak show Uber talented guys like Lonnie and Bruce just pure hoopers that impact the game in so many ways on a nightly basis.

Davon Reed and Jordan Miller are my #1 and #2 on that list for me. And for those that know my post history I think Davon Reed is all that and a bag of chips so it’s extremely high praise for me to say J Miller is on par with him.

If we go on another post season run this year I think the argument could be made that he’s the most important player in miami hoops history.

Jordan Miller is a future NBA player. I love what all our guys can do but Miller is the most complete player on the team and continues to add to his game. This season we have seen him shoot much more frequently with his right hand when he is being overplayed in the post on his right shoulder.
He is the best passer on a very good passing team, the best decision maker on a vet team, especially against the zone, and a reliable 3 point shooter.

All that and a pretty good defender. Miller is match up nightmare. I guarantee that he will come out a star if/when we make a strong post season run to the Final 4.

 

[AmherstCane]

Please explain how this makes sense. They all have 1 Quad 3 loss. Miami has 9 Quad 1-2 the rest have 8. There shouldn't be such a huge difference in the Net

School (Net)

Conference

Record

Road

Neutral

Home

Quad 1

Quad 2

Quad 3

Quad 4

Gonzaga (12)

WCC

20-5

5-2

4-2

11-1

3-4

5-0

6-1

6-0

Creighton (14)

Big East

17-8

3-4

2-3

12-1

4-5

4-2

5-1

4-0

Marquette (15)

Big East

20-6

6-4

1-1

13-1

4-5

4-0

5-1

7-0

Miami (FL) (30)

ACC

21-5

6-4

1-1

14-0

5-4

4-0

5-1

7-0

It’s the efficiency metrics that are dragging us down. As everybody on here knows - that infuriates me because failing to blow the doors off a bad team hurts you in the efficiency metrics far more than beating a good team helps you.

 

[AtlAtty]

Please explain how this makes sense. They all have 1 Quad 3 loss. Miami has 9 Quad 1-2 the rest have 8. There shouldn't be such a huge difference in the Net

School (Net)

Conference

Record

Road

Neutral

Home

Quad 1

Quad 2

Quad 3

Quad 4

Gonzaga (12)

WCC

20-5

5-2

4-2

11-1

3-4

5-0

6-1

6-0

Creighton (14)

Big East

17-8

3-4

2-3

12-1

4-5

4-2

5-1

4-0

Marquette (15)

Big East

20-6

6-4

1-1

13-1

4-5

4-0

5-1

7-0

Miami (FL) (30)

ACC

21-5

6-4

1-1

14-0

5-4

4-0

5-1

7-0

Makes no sense that during the game last night they said UM right now is a 5 seed in the tourney. We should be a 3 seed at worst. UM is a top 10 team.

 

[Madabs]

It’s the efficiency metrics that are dragging us down. As everybody on here knows - that infuriates me because failing to blow the doors off a bad team hurts you in the efficiency metrics far more than beating a good team helps you.

They no longer look at point margin in the NET rankings.

With the changes announced in May 2020, the NET will no longer use winning percentage, adjusted winning percentage and scoring margin.

Using the quadrant system, which was in its fourth season in 2020-21, the quality of wins and losses will be organized based on game location and the opponent's NET ranking.

• Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
• Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
• Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
• Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

The number of Quadrant 1 wins and Quadrant 3/4 losses will be incredibly important when it comes time for NCAA tournament selection and seeding.

That is why it doesn't make sense. We have 5 Quad Wins which is more and 1 Quad 3 losses which is the same.

 

[HurikaneMarc]

Makes no sense that during the game last night they said UM right now is a 5 seed in the tourney. We should be a 3 seed at worst. UM is a top 10 team.

Especially since we're ranked 15th. Basic math makes us a 4 seed. smh

For a team that just left the Great 8 last year it seems like the disrespect will never stop.

This is the best team we've fielded..maybe ever. Yet only the ACC knows how good we are.

If we don't get upset early everyone will see how good we are.

 

[AmherstCane]

They no longer look at point margin in the NET rankings.

With the changes announced in May 2020, the NET will no longer use winning percentage, adjusted winning percentage and scoring margin.

Using the quadrant system, which was in its fourth season in 2020-21, the quality of wins and losses will be organized based on game location and the opponent's NET ranking.

• Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
• Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
• Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
• Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

The number of Quadrant 1 wins and Quadrant 3/4 losses will be incredibly important when it comes time for NCAA tournament selection and seeding.

That is why it doesn't make sense. We have 5 Quad Wins which is more and 1 Quad 3 losses which is the same.

I believe the NET heavily weights offensive and defensive efficiency metrics. The reason I spoke in terms of point margin is that if you play a close game with a bad team, you will either take a big hit to your offensive or defensive efficiency. In our case it was our defensive efficiency that got hammered by some of the Q4 OOC games… leading to our bad NET rating.

Edit: That our net rating basically mirrors our kenpom rating should tell you how heavily efficiency metrics are weighted in the NET. Especially considering our strength of record is now TOP 10.

 

[CANEFAN83]

what a win. on the road again. team is getting better.

yes, miami won last night without much help from our top 2 players wong and Omier. miller and Pack are stepping up in a big way. We need more help from others too to take the next step. Poplar, Joseph, co need to keep getting better so other teams can't key on Omier, wong.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

Ranked 11th in the country in free throw percentage. 5 guys 80% or better. Wooga leading the team lol.

 

[AmherstCane]

Ranked 11th in the country in free throw percentage. 5 guys 80% or better. Wooga leading the team lol.

L believes Wooga has superstar potential. I believe in L.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

L believes Wooga has superstar potential. I believe in L.

I believe in him too. And Beverly and well not Walker....

 

[strauzer]

yes, miami won last night without much help from our top 2 players wong and Omier. miller and Pack are stepping up in a big way. We need more help from others too to take the next step. Poplar, Joseph, co need to keep getting better so other teams can't key on Omier, wong.

We are consistently getting help from a variety of guys, our balance is fantastic. Need the younger guys like Casey to keep getting better. Would love to see Watson get some burn, he's crazy athletic. Was hoping Kai would be out there more too, not sure what's up with his development.