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Lu and DMoney: Thoughts on the Offense?
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The biggest hing that has me concerned is how conservative the play calling has been. I realize Florida's defense is stout but we went nearly to the Coker T in the second half, run, run, pass, punt.
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Could be a blessing in disguise. If the Florida DB doesn't step OOB on the INT return we don't win this game.
It's clear Coley wants a bruiser RB. I think we should give him time. It worked out well for D'Onofrio.
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To play devil's advocate, D'O also inherited a very young (and very bad) group. Coley has a very experienced OL and a senior QB.
Time is a very relative concept. Coley needs to get more out of this unit by season's end.
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I think a lot of it is on Morris as well. Guys were getting open but he just wasn't reading the defense very well in the second quarter and beyond. We'll get it figured out.
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Agree with this. DO's group was young and ****. The offense is a veteran group, led by a senior QB who was peaking at season's end last year. We didn't expect regression on that side of the ball.
I'd give time on the Offense. Our defense was holding them and creating turnovers, so there was no need to take chances.
While it is was completely vanilla, taking chances could have led to something bad as easily as it could have led to something good.
Play conservative, play field position, play good defense, win ugly = the right decision for this game
While it is was completely vanilla, taking chances could have led to something bad as easily as it could have led to something good.
Play conservative, play field position, play good defense, win ugly = the right decision for this game
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we seem pretty feast or famine this year as well, which is nothing new. Since Jacorys Soph year its been this ****. You can rack up stats and even points like that but its bad football. Screws up your field position and TOP, makes it tough on the defense. We won't face a team as good on D as UF and only FSU will be close, so lets revisit this after GA Tech because I'm not sure how much is going to be learned in the next 3 weeks.
I am concerned, but I wanted D fired so maybe I just don't know what the **** I'm talking about. The playcall had some fundamental errors IE rolling Morris left repeatedly, avoiding middle of field completely, absence of screen game, not to mention losing contro of tempo. But its hard to call a good game when you are getting blasted up the middle of your O-line
I am concerned, but I wanted D fired so maybe I just don't know what the **** I'm talking about. The playcall had some fundamental errors IE rolling Morris left repeatedly, avoiding middle of field completely, absence of screen game, not to mention losing contro of tempo. But its hard to call a good game when you are getting blasted up the middle of your O-line
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Someone is going to have to show me these wide open guys Morris kept missing because I've now heard it from a few people. Still don't agree with anyone who said he played bad. He should have checked down to Walford a few times but besides that I didn't see anyone running open.
I would have liked us to be more creative to create better down and distance situations but this was one of those grind your *** off games. Florida is a top 5 defense and has one of the best DLines in CFB. Yes, the O could have been better but sometimes you have to tip your cap to the other team and say they had a **** good defense.
I'm not too worried about the offense, think they will be clicking by the time ACC play rolls around.
I would have liked us to be more creative to create better down and distance situations but this was one of those grind your *** off games. Florida is a top 5 defense and has one of the best DLines in CFB. Yes, the O could have been better but sometimes you have to tip your cap to the other team and say they had a **** good defense.
I'm not too worried about the offense, think they will be clicking by the time ACC play rolls around.
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he was off on 3 passes to dorsett. one was the when dorsett was running up the sideline that was nearly picked off. a second one was an adjustment when the corner or outside LB blitzed and the third one was on the 3 and 25 and dorsett ran a long route with a sudden stop at the first down marker. it was thrown 10 feet over his head. however, there was some discussion that the ball might have been tipped. there could have been a few more. i think he's playing a bit off.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He was the coordinator last year in Tallahassee that got run out of it's own stadium with a slew of NFL early round picks because they consistently gave Florida a short field with the first qb taken in this year's draft. I was not happy, but I will sit back and wait til after we play these next two games. We also need to remember 4 of the 5 offensive coaches are new in their roles. This was not a pushover team.
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There was one play where he was rolling out left and had Walford by himself in the middle of the field and he throw the ball to a WR near the sideline in the dirt.
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I'm not saying Morris is locked in but I don't think he playe poorly either. Like someone said we averaged 3rd and 11.5, not exactly advantageous for a QB.
2 of the throws were a miscommunication. 1st I thought Morris was throwing to the back shoulder. 2nd was the CB blitz. It's hard to tell who made the mistake since we don't know their checks and reads but that plays gains yards if Dorsett had the same read. The INT I guess was tipped but I thought he should have checked down to Walford, gained about 10 and punted. That to me was his biggest mistake of the game.
Their is no doubt that Morris and Dorsett need to get back on the same page. They aren't clicking. Both need to relax a bit and let The game come to them. Didn't like seeing Dorsett get so animated.
2 of the throws were a miscommunication. 1st I thought Morris was throwing to the back shoulder. 2nd was the CB blitz. It's hard to tell who made the mistake since we don't know their checks and reads but that plays gains yards if Dorsett had the same read. The INT I guess was tipped but I thought he should have checked down to Walford, gained about 10 and punted. That to me was his biggest mistake of the game.
Their is no doubt that Morris and Dorsett need to get back on the same page. They aren't clicking. Both need to relax a bit and let The game come to them. Didn't like seeing Dorsett get so animated.
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Also, I'm curious as to why we kept trying to run the ball with big formations, permitting Florida to have 7, 8 in the box, instead of trying to space them out a bit and give Duke some more space to run. It seemed like we were in a lot of 2 WR sets.
I just didn't like how predictable the offense became. I thought there was an opportunity to run a few screens to Duke and to pass more to Walford. Seemed like he was trying to shorten the game in the third quarter which is way too early. It was also dangerous since it wasn't like the offense was running blowing UF off the ball.
I'm not calling for his head by any means and UF is probably the best front seven the canes will face all season. Lets see if coley can get a bit more dynamic.
I'm not calling for his head by any means and UF is probably the best front seven the canes will face all season. Lets see if coley can get a bit more dynamic.
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James Coley is learning on the job and also UFs D is fkin legit. They have more studs on D than us period. Our guys just played smarter and harder, the O will improve every game but alot has to do with SM IMO. There was alot of WRs open(NFL open but open) like the TD catch Waters has he was covered well but just a good throw. Guys were open all game IMO but he couldnt make the plays, but he made enough because our D was stout. OL (run blocking)and QB worry me the most, we have one more team with a legit DL and its FSU. SM has to trust the process and trust his arm he gets rattled to quick.
I agree he missed a few check down to Walford.
I'm not sure the play you are referring to (rolling left) but throwing across your body to the middle of the field is not something I want to see on a consistant basis.
I'm not saying he played great but he made 2 big time throws on the 2 TDs and didn't lose us the game which was huge bc how good the D was playing.
I think he is probably pressing a bit with all the hype he was receiving (think Dorsett is pressing too). Just needs to get on the same page as the WRs.
I'm not worried about Morris as of now
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Saw a thread on another site where they broke down the missed throws....the middle was open all day. Morris is making his reads pre-snap, he's locking in. It was pretty clear on a lot of those throws. The line was giving him enough time. On the throw to Dorsett along the sidelines when Dorsett was blanketed and out of bounds he had Walford running a deep in open. He never looked. Same thing on the pick....he had Waters on the other side open in the middle. Look back at the game and find ONE throw where it was a second read.
As far as defense, I was really impressed. We gave tons of different looks, 4-3, 3-4...brought blitzes from different places. Driskell was confused. He got lucky on a couple of long balls and that's why he ended up with 300yds. We also got pressure with 4 and even 3 while maintaining our lanes and not letting him scramble. It was night and day from last year. This is a top 20 defense if they play like that all season. Also, no Bush.....so there is room to improve.
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