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305to954 said:
If your giving Diaz credit for the all the defensive recruitment under his DC tenure. I must ask, where do u see the defencies as far as talent position by position I don’t see it..DE, check..DT, check..LB, those guys have been injured so jury is out..CB, Check..Safety, Check..right now recruiting is going well. Let’s see if he can change the trend of the decommits with this new method he has or whatever. But talent on defense is not a issue. Production hasn’t been a problem. Now we have to see if he can CEO and put every phase together at a elite level
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Recruiting hasn't been bad. But its definitely not where it should be. Miami never pulled 5* recruits consistently like people are expecting us to, but even Al Golden hit on some of his big time targets.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:


Highest graded CBs in the country through 3 weeks. Anyone recognize the top 3 names?

But please, tell me more about how Rumph’s development trumps his lack of recruiting success.
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Rofl, WTF is wrong with you man, we had the #1 pass defense in the nation last year, lost 3 starters, played 2 legit teams early in the year, Blades jr. hasnt given up 1 pass against him yet that i can remember, so he has to be ranked somewhere. Stop getting all wedged up over some nerd rankings! Where was jaquan, redwine, jackson and bandy ranked at last year by tbis same group! Also you trying to compare already built up programs to an up an coming one that has been heavily damaged by the troll shalala regime, it was a big 19 inside job all around, the penn disgrace morons didnt end up here by accident.

You need to calm yo *** down, dont be a phaggot, crying about the **** recruits that chose to go elsewhere, are you a UM fan or a recruiting websites fan, they got their guys, we got ours, we good over here, GTFOH with them bullshat stats!
 
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Calvin said:
Rofl, WTF is wrong with you man, we had the #1 pass defense in the nation last year, lost 3 starters, played 2 legit teams early in the year, Blades jr. hasnt given up 1 pass against him yet that i can remember, so he has to be ranked somewhere. Stop getting all wedged up over some nerd rankings! Where was jaquan, redwine, jackson and bandy ranked at last year by tbis same group! Also you trying to compare already built up programs to an up an coming one that has been heavily damaged by the troll shalala regime, it was a big 19 inside job all around, the penn disgrace morons didnt end up here by accident.

You need to calm yo *** down, dont be a phaggot, crying about the **** recruits that chose to go elsewhere, are you a UM fan or a recruiting websites fan, they got their guys, we got ours, we good over here, GTFOH with them bullshat stats!
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Man gtfoh with that bull$h!t. 3 **** games. Wait till conference play starts or till someone does a full season before crowning them, especially defense.
 

But you need to use common sense, if we had the #1 defense last year since you want to be petty and try and point out it was "last year" that first shows you didnt have an appreciation for that accomplishment last year and you're to blinded by nerd recruiting sites to understand the coaches who played a major part in that are still here, so its obvious they know what they are doing, when is the last time UM has had any unit being #1 in something, so both of yall should stop bytching about a side of the ball that has consistently been playingcat a high level. You might want to focus on why the linebacking play has decreased!
 
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Calvin said:
But you need to use common sense, if we had the #1 defense last year since you want to be petty and try and point out it was "last year" that first shows you didnt have an appreciation for that accomplishment last year and you're to blinded by nerd recruiting sites to understand the coaches who played a major part in that are still here, so its obvious they know what they are doing, when is the last time UM has had any unit being #1 in something, so both of yall should stop bytching about a side of the ball that has consistently been playingcat a high level. You might want to focus on why the linebacking play has decreased!
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Last year's pass defense was nearly elite. This year is average, which means we regressed badly. Yes our LBs have been bad, but our overall pass defense looks like we're starting 3 new guys in the secondary.

Last year, with a squad that was 6-7, we never allowed a 50 yard pass. This year we've already allowed 3 passes over 60 yards. The difference is Last year was Diaz's defense with an Al Golden lead secondary, and our best pass rusher in Gerald Willis was also acquired by Al Golden. This year, we're using Baker's defense with Diaz's choice of recruits.
 
Astcloud11 said:
Last year's pass defense was nearly elite. This year is average, which means we regressed badly. Yes our LBs have been bad, but our overall pass defense looks like we're starting 3 new guys in the secondary.

Last year, with a squad that was 6-7, we never allowed a 50 yard pass. This year we've already allowed 3 passes over 60 yards. The difference is Last year was Diaz's defense with an Al Golden lead secondary, and our best pass rusher in Gerald Willis was also acquired by Al Golden. This year, we're using Baker's defense with Diaz's choice of recruits.
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Good teams reload. Last year was great. Wouldn’t it be nice to reload with a lead-pipe first round pick who happened to be coached by our CB coach? Why do we HAVE to take a step back? Oh, because we’re not landing the best kids in the country who play high school ball in the shadow of our campus. Carry on though, I’m the bad guy.
 
Calvin said:
Rofl, WTF is wrong with you man, we had the #1 pass defense in the nation last year, lost 3 starters, played 2 legit teams early in the year, Blades jr. hasnt given up 1 pass against him yet that i can remember, so he has to be ranked somewhere. Stop getting all wedged up over some nerd rankings! Where was jaquan, redwine, jackson and bandy ranked at last year by tbis same group! Also you trying to compare already built up programs to an up an coming one that has been heavily damaged by the troll shalala regime, it was a big 19 inside job all around, the penn disgrace morons didnt end up here by accident.

You need to calm yo *** down, dont be a phaggot, crying about the **** recruits that chose to go elsewhere, are you a UM fan or a recruiting websites fan, they got their guys, we got ours, we good over here, GTFOH with them bullshat stats!
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We got a Shalala excuse!!! Holy ****!! Golden unicorn here, boys. We made it!!!!
 
colperm said:
2 of the 3 were bought and paid for. So unless you’re willing to open up the checkbook like fans of those other schools, I don’t see how we can criticize a guy who consistently turns so so talent into great cornerbacks.

So I guess my point is, be careful what you wish for. Put Rumph at Alabama or Georgia and our CB recruiting is really gonna suck.
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Astcloud11 said:
Recruiting hasn't been bad. But its definitely not where it should be. Miami never pulled 5* recruits consistently like people are expecting us to, but even Al Golden hit on some of his big time targets.
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Yeah, on paper. But I’ll say this and I always believe this, evaluation of a recruiting class starts on signing day but doesn’t end until the staff get hands on those kids and we see how the staff develops them. I just can’t look at stars by a name In FEB . That’s were (correct me if I’m wrong) ppl who are critical of mannys recruiting here get their premise from..so those big time targets that Golden hit on, how many actually lived up to the billing? Off the top of my head the only 4 or 5 stars who lived up under Golden were Duke 5 ⭐ , isadora 4 ⭐ flowers 4 ⭐ Burns 4 ⭐. Now he de definitely had some guys who were projecting as projects preform like Dorset, Njoku(developed under MR) Denzel who was a high 3 ⭐️ .but as far as overall development I definitely think Diaz and that defensive staff have done a great job..just looking at the number of Golden holdovers on that D who a lot considered JAGS who turned their careers around under Diaz and co. Guys like Carter, Jenkins, chad, Trent , Colbert(a Texas wash) mike Jackson( ppl said was dead weight)...At this point the jury is still out on rather manny can keep it going and duplicate it throughout the roster. But you can’t definitively say he can’t recruit at this point
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:


Highest graded CBs in the country through 3 weeks. Anyone recognize the top 3 names?

But please, tell me more about how Rumph’s development trumps his lack of recruiting success.
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Tell you what man, give Rumph a 1.5 million dollar "loan" or 5,000 more graduates of UM that are "friends of the program"...I'll bet you he lands at least 3 top primadona DBs in SFLA for sure, if not the country.
 
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supacane said:
Man gtfoh with that bull$h!t. 3 **** games. Wait till conference play starts or till someone does a full season before crowning them, especially defense.
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Astcloud11 said:
Last year's pass defense was nearly elite. This year is average, which means we regressed badly. Yes our LBs have been bad, but our overall pass defense looks like we're starting 3 new guys in the secondary.

Last year, with a squad that was 6-7, we never allowed a 50 yard pass. This year we've already allowed 3 passes over 60 yards. The difference is Last year was Diaz's defense with an Al Golden lead secondary, and our best pass rusher in Gerald Willis was also acquired by Al Golden. This year, we're using Baker's defense with Diaz's choice of recruits.
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To a certain degree you are correct but you leaving out major contributing factors between last year and this year. First, redwine was moved to safety under coach richt, coach diaz, and #28 was never a factor until coach diaz and coach rumph got here. Also we went from a passive 3-4 primarily zone coverage scheme, back home to our 4-3 aggressive scheme, which opened the door for the athlete's to be athlete's, and lastly, we had 3 guys in jaquan, redwine and jackson that were seniors, and who were starters for 2 years, so the comparison is way off!
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:


Highest graded CBs in the country through 3 weeks. Anyone recognize the top 3 names?

But please, tell me more about how Rumph’s development trumps his lack of recruiting success.
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LOL this like saying Miami had the 4th best defense in the nation last year....sure the stats say that but if you dont have orange and green glasses you know that wasnt true.........
 
That moment when Rumph wanted Samuels and Jaden Davis, but Diaz didn't... Somehow a fan a big dummy I might add blames Rumph. Yeah we're screwed.
 
Rumph is an excellent coach. His recruiting is hampered by his inability to offer bags. He takes the recruits he gets & maximizes their potential. He's done an exceptionally good job with that he's had. You can't do much better than leading the nation in pass defense (which we did for long stretches last year).
 
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