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No D and them played that bend, don’t break defense. They made teams dink and donk down the field and forced them into taking 3 points at a high clip. Problem is they gave up A LOT of yards! This defense gave up the @ss to anyone with a pulse! Every team broke or tied school records VS us smh
 
Guidry was awful this year and I’m glad he’s gone, but the entire defense as a whole was disappointing. I knew the secondary was going to be suspect, but I thought that our D-Line and Edge play would be elite and could overcome lack of personnel on the back end. That simply didn’t happen. Also, LB play was very average and just…meh. The entire defense let this team down and cost us a shot at a memorable season. They came out that first game against Florida and I was like if they play like THIS all year this team could be special. It was all downhill from there.
 
407cane said:
Al golden never had a championship offense or QB held back by his bad defenses
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Nothing like what we had this year but there were a few really good offensive teams under Golden. He had a lot of NFL players. 2013 Miami averaged 34 points per game but the defense ended the year surrendering 41,42,48,28,31 and 36 points. That was the one year they started off 7-0 and then the wheels fell off losing 4 of the last 6.
 
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Not close. Look at posts last year and earlier this year from CIS. "Pay this man!"

Dorito takes the trophy for consistently being horrible
 
407cane said:
Probably not the worst but potentially the DC that cost us the most in canes history
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Not the worst, I agree. He wasn't bad last year and well, there's this year.

A couple of things I'll say about this year is that our secondary was probably the worst secondary we've ever had. The linebackersx they weren't the worst ever, but they're up there. The DL, something just wasn't right and there were some injuries.

All things considered, I'm not sure there is a DC in the land that makes this year's talent a top defense in the country. 7 to 10 points a game, maybe, but I do feel that people overestimated the talent we had back there.

The kill shot to me was we just couldn't ever seem to come up with key stops that let us pull away. Having an offense like we had, that typically makes a defenses job easier as they know the offense is going to score making other offenses try and keep up. That leads to them pressing, but we saw the opposite. Every team we faced by and large had a seemingly easy time of it, looked comfortable, and not under pressure.

Well deserved firing. Just not the worst ever IMHO.
 
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Echtcane said:
Not sure I'm remembering correctly but wasn't D'onofrio consistently awful? Guidry at least has a history of decent defenses including '23 at Miami.
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Most of his defenses only did well statistically because Al would run a slow plodding offense. This reduced defensive time on the field. The defense would play the extreme version of bend don't break where you're allowed to have anything you want under 10 yards. This resulted in long drives. The clock would run down a ton and we'd still lose, but the defense didn't give up as many yards since there weren't as many drives.
 
TheU32 said:
D’OhNo! Did less with more talent. Guidry had less talent but failure to improve or adjust cost Miami the most. Unforgivable. Had to go
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I actually don't think Guidry's scheme was a significant issue as much as the personnel and lack of development. The players looked lost all the time and there were so many blown coverages.
 
SayWhat said:
Not the worst, I agree. He wasn't bad last year and well, there's this year.

A couple of things I'll say about this year is that our secondary was probably the worst secondary we've ever had. The linebackersx they weren't the worst ever, but they're up there. The DL, something just wasn't right and there were some injuries.

All things considered, I'm not sure there is a DC in the land that makes this year's talent a top defense in the country. 7 to 10 points a game, maybe, but I do feel that people overestimated the talent we had back there.

The kill shot to me was we just couldn't ever seem to come up with key stops that let us pull away. Having an offense like we had, that typically makes a defenses job easier as they know the offense is going to score making other offenses try and keep up. That leads to them pressing, but we saw the opposite. Every team we faced by and large had a seemingly easy time of it, looked comfortable, and not under pressure.

Well deserved firing. Just not the worst ever IMHO.
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I don’t think we overestimated the talent back there. The DB unit was seen as a liability in the preseason. The only person we overestimated was FM. We thought we were gold when he came back and his play regressed significantly this year. That said, a top DC would have never found himself in that position. Guidry SHOULD have seen this coming the way he tweaked the system the year before due to lack of good players.

And, as one of the top cooks, he should have been banging his hand on the table, demanding better ingredients the last couple years (especially though the portal). But from all accounts, he was not a strong recruiter and with that, I wouldnt be surprised if he wasn’t doing a ton of evaluation film work and went along with whatever ingredients were placed in front of him.
 
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Man said his goal was always to have a shutout in the 3rd quarter. It's like we all have goals. I always wanted to bone Shakira. Sometimes you fall a little short.
 
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rascon said:
I don’t think we overestimated the talent back there. The DB unit was seen as a liability in the preseason. The only person we overestimated was FM. We thought we were gold when he came back and his play regressed significantly this year. That said, a top DC would have never found himself in that position. Guidry SHOULD have seen this coming the way he tweaked the system the year before due to lack of good players.

And, as one of the top cooks, he should have been banging his hand on the table, demanding better ingredients the last couple years (especially though the portal). But from all accounts, he was not a strong recruiter and with that, I wouldnt be surprised if he wasn’t doing a ton of evaluation film work and went along with whatever ingredients were placed in front of him.
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That's some of what I didn't type.

Who or what position finds themselves in, answering it in recruiting or the portal has never been tougher IMO.

Recruiting was usually about relationships, proximity to home, how good a team is, NFL production, etc. Now, it's about the money and our overall class rank this year is a perfect example of that. Mario was thought of as a top recruiter. We have our best year in forever, but our class plummets. He didn't forget how to recruit, I feel other raised the money to surpass us.

What he did behind the scenes, recruiting wise, film, or game wise is anyone's guess. It didn't work this year, so we move on. I think though they thought they did better in the portal than we really did and some didn't develop like they hoped. It is what it is.
 
Hold My Beer said:
Worst DC in Canes history?

Either him or the nepo hire that led to Golden losing his job
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It's the worst given the context that they held back a championship caliber offense and they had a big NIL budget in an era that allows instant transfers so if you want to blame the personnel there is zero excuse for the personnel issues to be that bad.
 
JT couldn’t get Bain to perform the whole season Bain should portal to help himself and team .
But love affair from last season lingers part of the problem new DC will deal with on why we never made change.
 
I need to go back and watch dorito. But I’m willing to bet his defenses were better than Guidry. We let anyone with a pulse cream pie us all year. I remember no D was very stupid at the goal line though lol I just don’t see how a defense can be much worse than what we saw this year
 
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