Keith Bryant Struggling

[Dwinstitles]

I ain't gonna lie I go based on the film and what people personally see, I like opinions of people without the orange and green shades on and there's few on here like that. This isn't directed at JHall who I think is one of the best posters here along with a few others.

 

[NVA CANE]

Cook is 3rd string behind Mario Pender and Karlos Williams but he will get some carries

Lane and Rudolph have had good summer and fall camps and will be in the wideout rotation

I remember someone here posted your guys chart. Remember seeing Lane and Rudolph second string behind two seniors you guys have who haven't stepped up yet. So I chalked it up to both of them joining the lineup with Greene eventually to replace Benjamin and Shaw for you guys.

I expect Cook to be your #2 soon. No offense to Pender.

That cook miss will haunt us, dude is like 2 devonte Freeman's in one body. He will get to the edge on us, I'm hoping he's a bust.

He looked like *** in the all star game during the 1st half. 2nd half was a little better but average. He's a really fast 1 cut back. I guess it's all in what you like your back to do. I'd take a Duke type back over a Lamar Miller type back all day, but that's just me.

Woooo boy you better watch out. I made the same observation last year and was crucified as a Golden apologist. Cook was a bionic cyborg constructed in a lab from the DNA of Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson, Edge, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.

Personally, I saw a very fast one cut back. Definitely elite speed, and COULD develop into an absolute beast, but he couldn't hold Yearby's jock strap when it came to field vision, and cut backs, and using his feet.

I would gladly have had Cook, but I didn't get the unreal slurping of the guy as the superstar cant miss of the century, especially not the way people shrugged off having Yearby.

Cook was a perfect compliment to Yearby. I will be interested to see how he does when he has to carry an offense more by himself.

If he stays at the RB position, me thinks and hopes trayone Gray will make us forget about Cook.

 

[TheMatador]

Remove Christian jones and replace with Northrop has to be a downgrade; who replaced tevin smith? Don't see how these guys are as good as last year, but maybe don't have to be

Telvin Smith is being replaced by EJ Levenberry

Christian Jones is being replaced by Chris Casher

But because of the depth at FSU they rotate so much many guys will play a lot of minutes

Was Casher the guy involved in the Winston incident with the woman? Sorry for raising in a purely football thread, but it's fair game.

 

[TheMatador]

I remember someone here posted your guys chart. Remember seeing Lane and Rudolph second string behind two seniors you guys have who haven't stepped up yet. So I chalked it up to both of them joining the lineup with Greene eventually to replace Benjamin and Shaw for you guys.

I expect Cook to be your #2 soon. No offense to Pender.

That cook miss will haunt us, dude is like 2 devonte Freeman's in one body. He will get to the edge on us, I'm hoping he's a bust.

He looked like *** in the all star game during the 1st half. 2nd half was a little better but average. He's a really fast 1 cut back. I guess it's all in what you like your back to do. I'd take a Duke type back over a Lamar Miller type back all day, but that's just me.

Woooo boy you better watch out. I made the same observation last year and was crucified as a Golden apologist. Cook was a bionic cyborg constructed in a lab from the DNA of Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson, Edge, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.

Personally, I saw a very fast one cut back. Definitely elite speed, and COULD develop into an absolute beast, but he couldn't hold Yearby's jock strap when it came to field vision, and cut backs, and using his feet.

I would gladly have had Cook, but I didn't get the unreal slurping of the guy as the superstar cant miss of the century, especially not the way people shrugged off having Yearby.

Cook was a perfect compliment to Yearby. I will be interested to see how he does when he has to carry an offense more by himself.

If he stays at the RB position, me thinks and hopes trayone Gray will make us forget about Cook.

Does Gray have Cook's ability to break the big one? I watched some of his highlights, and don't remember that quality. He was good, but what I remember of Cook, watching some of the games, was how he was able to find a lane and he was gone. Didn't juke as much as Yearby, which I think is a more valuable quality over the long haul. If only Yearby could get a little bigger.

I agree with Cane4Life's assessment of Cook. He doesn't have some of the qualities that Emmit Smith, Barry Sanders, Edge, or Walter Payton had. I haven't seen much of Peterson, since I don't watch any football anymore outside of the Canes. I was very disappointed when we lost Cook, but he doesn't make a lot of people miss, from what I could see. He just found a lane that the very good line at Central created for him, and was gone. Whether he will get those lanes as consistently in college remains to be seen. I would suspect against faster college defenses those lanes would close much more quickly. Maybe Yearby won't blow past people like Cook could, but he'll get a lot of shorter gains (10-15-20 yards) just by making people miss. If only he could get thicker, I'd feel better.

 

[Ob1kanobi]

That's probably because FSU has recruited extremely well at DT. They have like four or five 4 or 5 star kids in front of Bryant plus just signed a couple of 4 star kids at DT in this last class. They are loaded there. Plus that kid is just a redshirt freshman isn't he? Keith Bryant would probably be in our two deep right now. That's the difference in how both schools have recruited at DT.

 

[TheMatador]

Dalvin Cook ain't nothing but a poor man's Lamar Miller

I don't know if he's a poor man's Lamar Miller. I can only compare Cook's HS video with what I saw of Miller at UM. Cook in HS might have been more impressive. But that was HS. It seems Lamar was good for one long one per game in college. The college defenses might find it much easier to bottle up Cook. We even had a slow defense in '84 that seemed to contain Bo Jackson fairly well.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Dalvin Cook ain't nothing but a poor man's Lamar Miller

I don't know if he's a poor man's Lamar Miller. I can only compare Cook's HS video with what I saw of Miller at UM. Cook in HS might have been more impressive. But that was HS. It seems Lamar was good for one long one per game in college. The college defenses might find it much easier to bottle up Cook. We even had a slow defense in '84 that seemed to contain Bo Jackson fairly well.

I actually thought the Lamar Miller comment was pretty accurate. He has the capacity to be a Lamar Miller type guy. But like you have pointed out twice now, that depends on a great OL, and some good lanes to be able to pull that off. Cook relied on just out racing a lot of guys in HS. Its going to be harder in college. If he's going to be an elite RB, he's going to have to learn more moves than a one cut and go.

Your analysis on Yearby was also spot on. He's not the home run threat every play that Cook is, but he's the guy that will grind it down the field for you, 5, 7, 6 yards at a time, and an occasional 15 or 25 yard run. More like a Duke.

 

[themonsta15]

I remember someone here posted your guys chart. Remember seeing Lane and Rudolph second string behind two seniors you guys have who haven't stepped up yet. So I chalked it up to both of them joining the lineup with Greene eventually to replace Benjamin and Shaw for you guys.

I expect Cook to be your #2 soon. No offense to Pender.

That cook miss will haunt us, dude is like 2 devonte Freeman's in one body. He will get to the edge on us, I'm hoping he's a bust.

He looked like *** in the all star game during the 1st half. 2nd half was a little better but average. He's a really fast 1 cut back. I guess it's all in what you like your back to do. I'd take a Duke type back over a Lamar Miller type back all day, but that's just me.

Woooo boy you better watch out. I made the same observation last year and was crucified as a Golden apologist. Cook was a bionic cyborg constructed in a lab from the DNA of Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson, Edge, Emmitt Smith, and Barry Sanders.

Personally, I saw a very fast one cut back. Definitely elite speed, and COULD develop into an absolute beast, but he couldn't hold Yearby's jock strap when it came to field vision, and cut backs, and using his feet.

I would gladly have had Cook, but I didn't get the unreal slurping of the guy as the superstar cant miss of the century, especially not the way people shrugged off having Yearby.

Cook was a perfect compliment to Yearby. I will be interested to see how he does when he has to carry an offense more by himself.

Like Lane and a few others, people take what Pete says and just run with it rather than making their own judgements. Cook is a freak athletically but Yearby is better than him in a few areas as well. People get all ****ing crazy with comparisons but it's a little like Karlos Williams and Duke. Williams the better athlete and superstar potential, Duke with the intangibles.

Williams only played rb for 1 year tho..imo fsu is loaded but we are getting there they are stacking while golden and co are building

 

[TheMatador]

we talking about a DT in his redshirt frosh season......

man ok.

Yeah, might be wishful thinking and a bit of sour grapes on our part...but I won't shed a tear if this kid flames out.

For the guy who asked who he was, he was a guy we wanted badly when we needed DTs badly and there were so few in south Florida. He played us, or so it seems. I think the coaches figured out by the time of his visit.

When people say what goes around comes around--well not always, but often enough.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

remind me, who is bryant and how is he relevant to the Canes?

Go back and look at our top quality depth again we have at DT ? Its like saying the samething about Valentine because he has a couple people in front on him lsu. Do we have one DT who could crack the rotation on the noles DT? This is a a legit question not to start a fight

 

[TheMatador]

is he struggling or is FSU so stacked at DT that they have 4 stars at 4th string

He's been passed by true freshmens, so he's struggling despite what the guys who love everyone we didn't sign (and hate everyone we did sign) want you to believe.

The true freshmens be flyin' around?

 

[Classic]

is he struggling or is FSU so stacked at DT that they have 4 stars at 4th string

He's been passed by true freshmens, so he's struggling despite what the guys who love everyone we didn't sign (and hate everyone we did sign) want you to believe.

#salutethecroot

 

[DuffleBagYoda]

Everybody is worried about Yearbys size... Think Warrick Dunn... Highly effective at the pro level as well. From experience playing RB some guys know how not to get hit whether running or ontheway dodown. It is an intangible quality. JY has it

 

[dforgie]

Keith Bryant is on the scout team at FSU

He is currently 4th team

He's only a redshirt freshman and FSU has a ton of top DTs on their team.

Agree, unfortunately , they are real deep on there D-tackle position.

 

[dforgie]

is he struggling or is FSU so stacked at DT that they have 4 stars at 4th string

He's been passed by true freshmens, so he's struggling despite what the guys who love everyone we didn't sign (and hate everyone we did sign) want you to believe.

They are deep, and the 2 freshman are studs. Not happy with Keef's actions in recruiting, but there is a real reason why he isn't higher on the depth chart. They seem to be loaded at DT.

 

[rudebuddha]

What what what what?


Is Dalvin second string yet behind Williams? Lane and Rudolph starting yet.

Cook is 3rd string behind Mario Pender and Karlos Williams but he will get some carries

Lane and Rudolph have had good summer and fall camps and will be in the wideout rotation

I remember someone here posted your guys chart. Remember seeing Lane and Rudolph second string behind two seniors you guys have who haven't stepped up yet. So I chalked it up to both of them joining the lineup with Greene eventually to replace Benjamin and Shaw for you guys.

I expect Cook to be your #2 soon. No offense to Pender.

That cook miss will haunt us, dude is like 2 devonte Freeman's in one body. He will get to the edge on us, I'm hoping he's a bust.

Denzel and company say, "We will see about that."

 

[rudebuddha]

Everybody is worried about Yearbys size... Think Warrick Dunn... Highly effective at the pro level as well. From experience playing RB some guys know how not to get hit whether running or ontheway dodown. It is an intangible quality. JY has it

Think Duke Johnson. Give Yearby time to develop. 18 year old kid. By the time he's a junior he will be 210lbs like Duke.

 

[rudebuddha]

Dalvin Cook ain't nothing but a poor man's Lamar Miller

I don't know if he's a poor man's Lamar Miller. I can only compare Cook's HS video with what I saw of Miller at UM. Cook in HS might have been more impressive. But that was HS. It seems Lamar was good for one long one per game in college. The college defenses might find it much easier to bottle up Cook. We even had a slow defense in '84 that seemed to contain Bo Jackson fairly well.

They didn't just bottle up Bo, those slow boys knocked his *** out of the game.

 

[well docUmented]

Golden knew what he was doing when he let FSU take him.

 

[DuffleBagYoda]

Too much stock is put into poundage. The weight room isn't exactly the end all be all but the numbers are telling. I would look at build and weight room combined as how i judge a players size. even if JY is 185-190 he isn't built like Duke was at that weight. apples and oranges. Body weight means little to strength. Lamichael james, Rainey, Deangelo Thomas and some other really small guy LIGHTS up huge defenses every year .... blah blah. Can U play is the question.

Big doesn't mean strong just as much as small doesn't mean weak
weight doesn't mean durable

Fred Taylor 6'1" 229Lbs of injury prone dynamite