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Coach Macho said:
At LB perhaps, but I still see a ton of talent at the skill positions.
We generally don't have the body types down here for positions like LB, DT and OL.

Most of the LB's down here are kids that are around 5'10"-6'0" and roughly 190lbs-200lbs.
Colleges are generally looking for 6'1" minimum and the frame to hold 230lbs.
My LB this past season was Miami Herald's Defensive Players Of The Year...but at only 6'0" 190lbs...he couldn't retain any of his P4 offers. All the ACC schools dropped him, UConn dropped him cause they refused to take an LB under 200lbs. Now he's headed to Presbyterian College.

We have a lot of great football players down here...but many of them simply don't fit the "physical traits" criteria for the next level. They're just as talented as anybody in the country, but they don't have the measureables for the next level. When we played Milton, they LOOKED far better than us. Physical traits all over their roster. They weren't necessarily more TALENTED though, and we won 14-10. Most of that Milton team is headed to P4. The kids that beat them that night are headed to small schools (NAIA, D2, D3)...or in some cases...Broward Community College.
So was there a talent discrepancy, or a physical traits discrepancy?

Regarding OL and DL, many of our kids there are under-developed and overweight. Most high schools (minus the privates and few Dade County powers) even have the body types to field a decent line on either side of the ball. They're basically relegated to putting their "fat kids" at those spots. In Broward the private schools basically have a monopoly on OL talent, and even those schools aren't sending a ton of OL to big college programs. Kids who are 6'4"-6'5" and athletic don't exactly grow on trees down here. Plenty of 6'1"-6'4" knock-kneed fat kids though, and that's generally who's playing OL at most high school programs in South Florida.

DL is another spot where the privates have a pretty good strangle hold on the local talent. Plenty of next-level DL talent at schools like Heritage, STA and Chaminade. Then there's a massive drop-off when you look at the publics, where everybody's DT's are 5'10"-6'1" chunky kids and everybody's DE's are basically LB bodies. The story is a little different in Dade where public schools like Central, Norland and Northwestern are loaded with legit DL bodies/talent.

LB is a very frustrating position for me, as a former LB myself and having coached defense for 18 years, trying to find real MODERN-TYPE Linebackers down here is a headache. Nobody wants to play the **** position. The kids that are 6'2" 215lbs would rather play Edge and get sacks. The kids who are 6'0"-6'1" 190lbs-195lbs would rather play Safety and try to get INT's.
Nobody wants to get their a$s in that box and do the dirty work. I got a kid right now who's 6'0"-6'1" 192lbs and is adamant about playing Safety. I could easily develop him into an All-State/All-County LB like I did with the last 2 kids, and probably get him into a D1 school, but he'd rather be a large/slow Safety than a small/fast LB. (scouts want to see him in the box, by the way)
Keep in mind, most of the best LB's in the NFL right now fall around 6'0"-6'1" 225lbs give or take.

Talked to a recruiting staff member from Miami recently and he eluded to this same issue (with South Florida kids). Kids don't wanna play the LB position, and many high school coaches don't develop or "personnel" the position for the next level. DC's down here are very prehistoric in their thinking. So when they assemble their defensive roster, all they're looking for at Linebacker is a "banger", a head cracker, someone who hits. But keep in mind, that's not how the game is played today. We don't play in a phone booth like we did in the 90's when many of these coaches were playing. So they're basically fielding and developing their LB units like we're still in the 90's. In other words, they're putting chunky kids who will hit you in a phone booth at LB. And their kids who would more appropriately fill the role of a MODERN LINEBACKER (long, athletic, can run and cover), they're putting at Edge.

So what do you think that's doing to LB development in South Florida? Absolutely killing it.
The scouts will come down here, they'll see your 6'2" 215lb DE, and they wanna offer him at LB.
But...the kid has no LB tape! He's been playing the edge for 3 years! They wanna see him in space.
Now...that kid who probably could've been developed into a legit D1 Linebacker is gonna struggle to find himself a college that's willing to take a chance on him. He'll probably end-up signing to a much smaller school as an undersized DE instead.
This same thing doesn't happen as much in states like Georgia and Texas, where they have REAL DE's and LB's.

So I don't think it's a TALENT issue down here as much as it's a TRAITS issue.
Our kids are talented as ****, many of them just don't translate to the next level (due to traits).
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also coaching.

we barely have hs coaches in the publics that can ACTULLY COACH THE LB POSITION.

lIKE YOU SAID THEY ARE PREHISTORIC....AND LIKELY DONT EVEN HAVE THE SKILL.

There are 599 db coaches and trainers though in miami dade alone.

which is also hilarious cause these dudes only play like 2 coverages. but hey...
 
Coach Macho said:
At LB perhaps, but I still see a ton of talent at the skill positions.
We generally don't have the body types down here for positions like LB, DT and OL.

Most of the LB's down here are kids that are around 5'10"-6'0" and roughly 190lbs-200lbs.
Colleges are generally looking for 6'1" minimum and the frame to hold 230lbs.
My LB this past season was Miami Herald's Defensive Players Of The Year...but at only 6'0" 190lbs...he couldn't retain any of his P4 offers. All the ACC schools dropped him, UConn dropped him cause they refused to take an LB under 200lbs. Now he's headed to Presbyterian College.

We have a lot of great football players down here...but many of them simply don't fit the "physical traits" criteria for the next level. They're just as talented as anybody in the country, but they don't have the measureables for the next level. When we played Milton, they LOOKED far better than us. Physical traits all over their roster. They weren't necessarily more TALENTED though, and we won 14-10. Most of that Milton team is headed to P4. The kids that beat them that night are headed to small schools (NAIA, D2, D3)...or in some cases...Broward Community College.
So was there a talent discrepancy, or a physical traits discrepancy?

Regarding OL and DL, many of our kids there are under-developed and overweight. Most high schools (minus the privates and few Dade County powers) even have the body types to field a decent line on either side of the ball. They're basically relegated to putting their "fat kids" at those spots. In Broward the private schools basically have a monopoly on OL talent, and even those schools aren't sending a ton of OL to big college programs. Kids who are 6'4"-6'5" and athletic don't exactly grow on trees down here. Plenty of 6'1"-6'4" knock-kneed fat kids though, and that's generally who's playing OL at most high school programs in South Florida.

DL is another spot where the privates have a pretty good strangle hold on the local talent. Plenty of next-level DL talent at schools like Heritage, STA and Chaminade. Then there's a massive drop-off when you look at the publics, where everybody's DT's are 5'10"-6'1" chunky kids and everybody's DE's are basically LB bodies. The story is a little different in Dade where public schools like Central, Norland and Northwestern are loaded with legit DL bodies/talent.

LB is a very frustrating position for me, as a former LB myself and having coached defense for 18 years, trying to find real MODERN-TYPE Linebackers down here is a headache. Nobody wants to play the **** position. The kids that are 6'2" 215lbs would rather play Edge and get sacks. The kids who are 6'0"-6'1" 190lbs-195lbs would rather play Safety and try to get INT's.
Nobody wants to get their a$s in that box and do the dirty work. I got a kid right now who's 6'0"-6'1" 192lbs and is adamant about playing Safety. I could easily develop him into an All-State/All-County LB like I did with the last 2 kids, and probably get him into a D1 school, but he'd rather be a large/slow Safety than a small/fast LB. (scouts want to see him in the box, by the way)
Keep in mind, most of the best LB's in the NFL right now fall around 6'0"-6'1" 225lbs give or take.

Talked to a recruiting staff member from Miami recently and he eluded to this same issue (with South Florida kids). Kids don't wanna play the LB position, and many high school coaches don't develop or "personnel" the position for the next level. DC's down here are very prehistoric in their thinking. So when they assemble their defensive roster, all they're looking for at Linebacker is a "banger", a head cracker, someone who hits. But keep in mind, that's not how the game is played today. We don't play in a phone booth like we did in the 90's when many of these coaches were playing. So they're basically fielding and developing their LB units like we're still in the 90's. In other words, they're putting chunky kids who will hit you in a phone booth at LB. And their kids who would more appropriately fill the role of a MODERN LINEBACKER (long, athletic, can run and cover), they're putting at Edge.

So what do you think that's doing to LB development in South Florida? Absolutely killing it.
The scouts will come down here, they'll see your 6'2" 215lb DE, and they wanna offer him at LB.
But...the kid has no LB tape! He's been playing the edge for 3 years! They wanna see him in space.
Now...that kid who probably could've been developed into a legit D1 Linebacker is gonna struggle to find himself a college that's willing to take a chance on him. He'll probably end-up signing to a much smaller school as an undersized DE instead.
This same thing doesn't happen as much in states like Georgia and Texas, where they have REAL DE's and LB's.

So I don't think it's a TALENT issue down here as much as it's a TRAITS issue.
Our kids are talented as ****, many of them just don't translate to the next level (due to traits).
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Traits matter. That’s the one thing Al Golden had right. There is room in the margins and exceptions that prove the rule. But traits matter - you have to be a specimen, meng.
 
gogeta4 said:
also coaching.

we barely have hs coaches in the publics that can ACTULLY COACH THE LB POSITION.

lIKE YOU SAID THEY ARE PREHISTORIC....AND LIKELY DONT EVEN HAVE THE SKILL.

There are 599 db coaches and trainers though in miami dade alone.

which is also hilarious cause these dudes only play like 2 coverages. but hey...
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Radar defense. See ball, hit ball.

Not many are reading keys correctly lol
 
gogeta4 said:
also coaching.

we barely have hs coaches in the publics that can ACTULLY COACH THE LB POSITION.

lIKE YOU SAID THEY ARE PREHISTORIC....AND LIKELY DONT EVEN HAVE THE SKILL.

There are 599 db coaches and trainers though in miami dade alone.

which is also hilarious cause these dudes only play like 2 coverages. but hey...
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My DL and DB coach both train kids on the side. They want me to start my own LB training company so bad. It's a wide open market. I was thinking about it but I don't know if it's a conflict of interest. Coaching DB's and DL is pretty universal, but LB play can be very scheme specific. Some DC's teach their LB's to spot-drop, some teach match coverage. Some teach their LB's to read Guards, some teach near back. Etc etc etc. I would probably end-up ****ing off some high school DC's. 🤣 I would kinda be limited to teaching footwork, hand striking, basic stuff like that.

It's kinda hard to train a position that's 80% intangibles.

I've actually had 3 former NFL Linebackers coach under me, and one of them played so long ago that he disagreed with basically everything I was teaching the LB's.
"That ain't how we did it..." was something he would say. Keep in mind, this man was drafted in 1997. Think about how much the game has changed since then. Lol 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Gransapo said:
Traits matter. That’s the one thing Al Golden had right. There is room in the margins and exceptions that prove the rule. But traits matter - you have to be a specimen, meng.
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I can confirm that Hetherman is very big on traits.

He wants speed and length all over the field. Doesn't care about height as much as "length". So I imagine he'll be measuring arms a lot.
 
Coach Macho said:
My DL and DB coach both train kids on the side. They want me to start my own LB training company so bad. It's a wide open market. I was thinking about it but I don't know if it's a conflict of interest. Coaching DB's and DL is pretty universal, but LB play can be very scheme specific. Some DC's teach their LB's to spot-drop, some teach match coverage. Some teach their LB's to read Guards, some teach near back. Etc etc etc. I would probably end-up ****ing off some high school DC's. 🤣 I would kinda be limited to teaching footwork, hand striking, basic stuff like that.

It's kinda hard to train a position that's 80% intangibles.

I've actually had 3 former NFL Linebackers coach under me, and one of them played so long ago that he disagreed with basically everything I was teaching the LB's.
"That ain't how we did it..." was something he would say. Keep in mind, this man was drafted in 1997. Think about how much the game has changed since then. Lol 🤷🏻‍♂️
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You are totally correct with everything in this post.
 
Coach Macho said:
My DL and DB coach both train kids on the side. They want me to start my own LB training company so bad. It's a wide open market. I was thinking about it but I don't know if it's a conflict of interest. Coaching DB's and DL is pretty universal, but LB play can be very scheme specific. Some DC's teach their LB's to spot-drop, some teach match coverage. Some teach their LB's to read Guards, some teach near back. Etc etc etc. I would probably end-up ****ing off some high school DC's. 🤣 I would kinda be limited to teaching footwork, hand striking, basic stuff like that.

It's kinda hard to train a position that's 80% intangibles.

I've actually had 3 former NFL Linebackers coach under me, and one of them played so long ago that he disagreed with basically everything I was teaching the LB's.
"That ain't how we did it..." was something he would say. Keep in mind, this man was drafted in 1997. Think about how much the game has changed since then. Lol 🤷🏻‍♂️
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i already know. I just seen one of my boys just started to train lbs he coach them at carol city.

imma see you soon though i know ya got coches but imma help out sheeiiit..

I think you should do it though but specifics....film work and some drills. That would be good these kids cant even watch film.
 
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I expect Miami to continue to pursue recent FSU commit LB Karen Maycock (Central).​

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