Kacy Rodgers vs BC (video of a play)

[UMJer026]

Our safety play is beyond pathetic.

 

[AUcane]

Are you seriously knocking Kacy on that play? Should he have made the tackle? Sure. But man alive, dude was in the right spot but just missed the tackle. Could he have gotten there a split second sooner? Sure, but it's basically his first slack. Cut the kid some slack. That reaction time will improve with experience.

Tough crowd with the armchair quarterbacks here.

 

[DeadPoets]

Are you seriously knocking Kacy on that play? Should he have made the tackle? Sure. But man alive, dude was in the right spot but just missed the tackle. Could he have gotten there a split second sooner? Sure, but it's basically his first slack. Cut the kid some slack. That reaction time will improve with experience.

Tough crowd with the armchair quarterbacks here.

It's not his first time on the "Soft" highlight reel.

 

[theu4lyfe]

someone explain; why is Mcgee that close to the wr yet when the ball is snapped he doesnt touch the wr?

Seems like we do nothing to disrupt the receivers routes ever. I hate it.

Agreed.

As the ball is snapped, the corners literally, and I mean literally, turn their hips and start running completely backwards. How does the coaching staff preach that technique in practice, and do so with a serious face?

 

[AUcane]

Are you seriously knocking Kacy on that play? Should he have made the tackle? Sure. But man alive, dude was in the right spot but just missed the tackle. Could he have gotten there a split second sooner? Sure, but it's basically his first slack. Cut the kid some slack. That reaction time will improve with experience.

Tough crowd with the armchair quarterbacks here.

It's not his first time on the "Soft" highlight reel.

The OP was critiquing this play specifically.

 

[pook187]

Watching that, I just can't help but think what Sean Taylor would have done to that poor kid...

Get out of my head!

They'd still be picking the pieces of that receiver out of the turf and Sean would still be running the other way with the ball.

 

[Pennmed Canefan]

Some of the critics need to learn the game. I dont care about criticism but I do care of criticisms that assume that the fans know more than the coaches. The corners don't touch the receivers because they arent supposed to, not because we know better than players/coaches. They are trying to show press and get to cover 3. Corners have deep third and need to get there fast not play with the receivers. That is rodgers play to make. He didnt make some great presnap read he just did what the defense asked. The next step would be to not just do what the x/o says but make a play on the receiver or ball. This is not a catastrophic error but they are going to play bush if rodgers offers nothing more than this because a responsible freshman can learn the x/o. If you dont add anything else you are replaceable.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

Should have decleated that dude. If thats ST, dude woulda had to been carted off the field

 

[sccane26]

I'm not saying I know more than the coaches. I'm not saying that our scheme needs to be changed because I know I don't know a great deal about that stuff. I see your point on the corners bailing for their zone, that makes sense; but what about the play when perryman picks it off? That was man coverage I believe and finnie was in the same spot. Ball snapped he does the same thing. He didn't touch the receiver when he cut; Finnie slipped an that guy probably scores if bc doesn't have an extra lineman on that side of the field instead of a tightend running a route. I believe that was the only reason perryman could make that play. Once again, I don't know a lot about schemes so I could be way off. It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Gamineal]

KC was our leading Tackler...

 

[CaneAlmighty]

You can't knock Kacy for that play. He actually read the play and sniffed it out pre snap which was awesome. That was a big time throw. The BC QB put that in a small window and threaded the needle.

If that ball was high or thrown a second late than Rogers has that INT. He read that route from the jump but the QB made a big time throw to squeeze the ball in between defenders

Even if all of that was true, what about the complete whiff of a tackle? Are we supposed to give him a pass there too?

/I know, don't feed the troll, but I couldn't resist.

That play was actually very encouraging. His pre-snap read was very good. He knew that route was coming. He was just a hair short of making that play. Those are the things you want to see out of your players.

Not a knock on anyone but it takes practice to watch film. You guys missed a glaring problem which allowed that play to produce yards.

Mcghee did not read the play at all. The receiver tipped his route early into that play. Mcgee needed to cut off the inside of the field and force the receiver to the sidelines. After the snap, Mcgee took a outside release. Once he did that the play was over. Also it would have been nice for Mcgee to at least get a jam. With a Jam, Kacy Rogers is no longer a hair late but now "On time"

So if anyone blew that play it was Mcgee

are you trolling bro? Seriously that was encouraging to you? You average saftey would have at least tried to separate the receiver from the ball.
This has the be the most discouraging video I've seen of the game so far.
Making that play was all about football instincts and it's quite apparent that Rodgers hardly has any. And you can't teach instincts.
I have to believe D'onofrio and Golden see this and look for Bush or someone else quickly cause Rodgers is not the answer.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Seems like we do nothing to disrupt the receivers routes ever. I hate it.

Agree, I feel like we need to be much more physical at the LOS.

 

[Cityboy4life82]

You can't knock Kacy for that play. He actually read the play and sniffed it out pre snap which was awesome. That was a big time throw. The BC QB put that in a small window and threaded the needle.

If that ball was high or thrown a second late than Rogers has that INT. He read that route from the jump but the QB made a big time throw to squeeze the ball in between defenders

Even if all of that was true, what about the complete whiff of a tackle? Are we supposed to give him a pass there too?

/I know, don't feed the troll, but I couldn't resist.

That play was actually very encouraging. His pre-snap read was very good. He knew that route was coming. He was just a hair short of making that play. Those are the things you want to see out of your players.

Not a knock on anyone but it takes practice to watch film. You guys missed a glaring problem which allowed that play to produce yards.

Mcghee did not read the play at all. The receiver tipped his route early into that play. Mcgee needed to cut off the inside of the field and force the receiver to the sidelines. After the snap, Mcgee took a outside release. Once he did that the play was over. Also it would have been nice for Mcgee to at least get a jam. With a Jam, Kacy Rogers is no longer a hair late but now "On time"

So if anyone blew that play it was Mcgee

are you trolling bro? Seriously that was encouraging to you? You average saftey would have at least tried to separate the receiver from the ball.
This has the be the most discouraging video I've seen of the game so far.
Making that play was all about football instincts and it's quite apparent that Rodgers hardly has any. And you can't teach instincts.
I have to believe D'onofrio and Golden see this and look for Bush or someone else quickly cause Rodgers is not the answer.

Reading the play pre-snap is very encouraging. So I am not really understanding why you feel that lacks football instincts. The mental aspect of football is more important than physical ability. They are are a lot of big, fast and aggressive players who are not good football players because they lack the mental understanding of the game.

He was a hair short of making a huge play. If that ball was thrown a little higher or slower, Kacy Rogers would have been all over that play. It is cool to get the "big Hit" but that is something that coaches do not teach. Coaches want players to make plays.

You also have to remember that this is the first time most of our players have had to be "the man". Most have been role players and never had to be the one who leads. You will have mistakes as they learn and adjust to being s full time starter. What I say in that film was very encouraging. The next time he probably makes that play.

 

[Chicken_N_Roffles]

Glenn Cook could read plays pre-snap as well.

 

[JHallCanes]

Are you seriously knocking Kacy on that play? Should he have made the tackle? Sure. But man alive, dude was in the right spot but just missed the tackle. Could he have gotten there a split second sooner? Sure, but it's basically his first slack. Cut the kid some slack. That reaction time will improve with experience.

Tough crowd with the armchair quarterbacks here.

I think its sort of a symbol of what our glaring weakness at safety is. He reads the play, QB telegraphs his throw, but we don't have a safety right now that reacts like we need them to.

I mean that's a play that gets picked by a good safety and a decent safety at least makes a hit on the ball.

But as you said, its still very early. Tough first road game environment and the whole defense played on its heels, not just Rodgers.

 

[Cityboy4life82]

Glenn Cook could read plays pre-snap as well.

That is why Cook was a solid player even though he was undersized. He helped anchor a defense that finished 4th and 7th in total defense.

 

[Canesfan1899]

I was one of the people who thought some rushed to judgement on KC after the FSU play last year, but after seeing him in extensive action he has a **** ton of work to do just to be serviceable. This is by far the worst S tandem I have seen at UM in decades.

And he's the son of an NFL coach, you would think he would have the instincts to go along with the physical attributes.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Glenn Cook could read plays pre-snap as well.

That is why Cook was a solid player even though he was undersized. He helped anchor a defense that finished 4th and 7th in total defense.

Wow, Just Wow. You had to be severely cokerized to truly believe this.

 

[Chicken_N_Roffles]

The only 'anchoring' that Cook did was acting like an anchor holding onto to the ballcarrier's foot(after getting run over)to slow them down until someone with actual talent made the tackle.

 

[BrazilCane]

I was one of the people who thought some rushed to judgement on KC after the FSU play last year, but after seeing him in extensive action he has a **** ton of work to do just to be serviceable. This is by far the worst S tandem I have seen at UM in decades.

And he's the son of an NFL coach, you would think he would have the instincts to go along with the physical attributes.

So, do you think you are not doing the same? Rushing the judgement... After all, it ´s Kacy first start and you are claiming to have seeing him in "extensive action"?!?