K9Cane's Korner( Week 1) - Is There Any Hope?

[BALDYCHUTES]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then watch, vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

This. UM often rolls on inferior D's, but UM rarely can move the ball on any good D.

 

[Bigtip]

Golden has a real problem. Coley has secured a good bit of the 2015\2016 commits. But he is proving to be a fish out of water calling plays. So Golden has to figure out how to retain Coley and get a play caller in. Tough predicament to be in right there.

LMAO. F/A/G will not be here to sign the 2015 class much less the 2016 class.

the new HC will probably keep Coley in some capacity as a recruiter just to keep commits

 

[Miami82]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

This staff coaches not to lose, they don't coach to win.

 

[Miami82]

Good write-up, Steve.

I think this hits the nail on the head perfectly:

Bum Phillips once said that the greatness of Don Shula was that,"he could take his and beat yours and take yours and beat his," for as unsavory as Bobby 'Olive Garden' Petrino might be to some, I think at the college level that applies to him. I don't think anyone, as of this moment, would say that about Golden and his staff.

This clown car couldn't coach FSU's roster over Louisville right now, much less our guys.

I really don't know what to hope for at this point, but I know I've seen all I need to see from up top. Guys like Golden aren't prone to change. He's built his whole coaching career on a certain philosophy, and however antiquated the results may render it, he just doesn't know any other way. As another wise man once said, "he is who we thought he was," a stale, passive reactionary with an inability to evolve or stay ahead of the game.

In some ways it's an odd counter to the image he tries to portray, but in other ways it's not, as his insistence on a core of fundamental pillars highlights an inability to adapt and look beyond what he thinks he knows. The act is old, it is played out, and at this point my primary concern is on mitigating the long-term damage.

You should send this to the AD. Dead on. **** you should send it to Corch Golden

 

[edge]

Anyone know what Golden's buyout is? All this talk of him being gone might be mute if they can't afford to let him go.

 

[CANE4LIFE]

Excellent write up K9, as usual.

To me, the single biggest mystery head scratcher that still leaves me bewildered is the million dollar question, and you asked it. WHY start Kaaya, if that is what you were going to do offensively? If you are going to coach scared and be in a shell the whole game, then why not just go with Heaps and take your chances with the 5th year senior?

I honestly think starting Kaaya at UL was a mistake. Horrible situation to have to throw a True Frosh into, one who wasn't even here for Spring. The FEW true Frosh that have ANY success in Division 1, are usually Spread/Read Option type QBs that can make things happen with their feet. Kaaya is a pure pocket passer with no wheels. That means he was going to HAVE to stand in the pocket and throw. And yet our OC basically refused to allow that.

I think Kaaya has a bright future, but if you are going to start him, then you have to let him play. Any idiot that has watched 5 minutes of football knew what UL was going to do on defense. Stack the box, pressure Kaaya and force us to beat them through the air, and when the inevitable challenge came, Coley curled up in the fetal position and refused to play to win. It was f*cking PATHETIC.

This was a colossal failure by the staff. I could live with a loss to UL. I could live with a True Frosh imploding on the road. But SHOW ME YOU CAME TO PLAY. I mean WHY START the kid, only to curl up in the fetal position and insist on trying to run into 9 man fronts over and over again?

We have a real problem in this program.

AG barring a massive collapse, is going to be here at LEAST through next season IMO. Coley is our best recruiter. We have NO X and O's coaches on this staff.

IMO the only thing we can do at this point, is make smaller changes, and hope that the talent matures quickly enough to win in SPITE of our coaching deficiencies. The first thing that needs to happen, is Kehoe needs to go. I understand that Coley has done us NO favors with this playcalling and schemes, but Kehoe's OL has been a sub par unacceptable pile of mediocrity for years now. Guy is finished. We need to have at least SOME **** high caliber position coaches on this team. It needs to start with the OL.

 

[edge]

Excellent write up K9, as usual.

To me, the single biggest mystery head scratcher that still leaves me bewildered is the million dollar question, and you asked it. WHY start Kaaya, if that is what you were going to do offensively? If you are going to coach scared and be in a shell the whole game, then why not just go with Heaps and take your chances with the 5th year senior?

I honestly think starting Kaaya at UL was a mistake. Horrible situation to have to throw a True Frosh into, one who wasn't even here for Spring. The FEW true Frosh that have ANY success in Division 1, are usually Spread/Read Option type QBs that can make things happen with their feet. Kaaya is a pure pocket passer with no wheels. That means he was going to HAVE to stand in the pocket and throw. And yet our OC basically refused to allow that.

I think Kaaya has a bright future, but if you are going to start him, then you have to let him play. Any idiot that has watched 5 minutes of football knew what UL was going to do on defense. Stack the box, pressure Kaaya and force us to beat them through the air, and when the inevitable challenge came, Coley curled up in the fetal position and refused to play to win. It was f*cking PATHETIC.

This was a colossal failure by the staff. I could live with a loss to UL. I could live with a True Frosh imploding on the road. But SHOW ME YOU CAME TO PLAY. I mean WHY START the kid, only to curl up in the fetal position and insist on trying to run into 9 man fronts over and over again?

We have a real problem in this program.

AG barring a massive collapse, is going to be here at LEAST through next season IMO. Coley is our best recruiter. We have NO X and O's coaches on this staff.

IMO the only thing we can do at this point, is make smaller changes, and hope that the talent matures quickly enough to win in SPITE of our coaching deficiencies. The first thing that needs to happen, is Kehoe needs to go. I understand that Coley has done us NO favors with this playcalling and schemes, but Kehoe's OL has been a sub par unacceptable pile of mediocrity for years now. Guy is finished. We need to have at least SOME **** high caliber position coaches on this team. It needs to start with the OL.

Agreed. Even if we go 6-6 Al is here another year. That is why I wrote earlier that Al has a real problem on hand with Coley. And after this year Kehoe will be fired in the same vain he was by Coker. Talk about repeating history. And yet this time Golden cannot can his OC the same way Coker did.

 

[ScubaCane]

True freshman with timid and asinine play calling. We were expecting too much from Kaaya, love that kid, he is going to be special. He is going to improve so much over the next two games. But it was too much to ask of him and the staff knew it which explains SOME of the crappy play calling. Notice I said some because some of that ish just can't be explained.

Let me just say, I love my TV. Love it. 1080p goodness. I love it almost as much as my wife and kids. But when we did that BS trick play in the red zone I wanted to smash it, drop kick it, something. Left me feeling:

This **** right here, if I had been drinking last night I have no doubt that the remote would be stuck in my TV screen right now. I was blown away by the idiocy of that call, Coley is a HS coach at best

 

[kennesaw_cane]

Our team plays timid... that comes from the top. There was improvement on D, but not enough. Where is the aggression?

Offense... blah. Coley has no feel or flow to the game. This is like Pat Nix part 2...

^^This. At least Nix employed the bubble screen. We looked atrocious on offense. Why can't we stretch the field with the stable of wideouts we got.

 

[k9cane]

I don't even think it matters who is on Golden's staff beyond the margins (i.e., guys like Fisch are the difference between a 9-4 year and a 7-6 year) because we're always gonna look timid and scared because that's just the mentality that his players end up having for whatever reason. His idea is always going to be to let the game come to us, instead of UM imposing our will on other teams like our great teams did.

weown, it's funny, but even the really good teams now will give up a lot of points, so basically it's now a race to see who can get to 40 or 50 points and these teams put their foot on the gas pedal and dont let up

Miami, seems to be content with winning the time of possession battle and hoping that 30 points is enough. It's bizarre. Its like the staff doesn't realize its 2014

Except we are awful at time of possession. We won it zero times last year, finishing nearly last in the country in this statistic. Last night, killed again in top.

LOL, well I stand corrected, I should have stated:"attempt to win the time of possession battle...."

 

[Miami82]

Excellent write up K9, as usual.

To me, the single biggest mystery head scratcher that still leaves me bewildered is the million dollar question, and you asked it. WHY start Kaaya, if that is what you were going to do offensively? If you are going to coach scared and be in a shell the whole game, then why not just go with Heaps and take your chances with the 5th year senior?

I honestly think starting Kaaya at UL was a mistake. Horrible situation to have to throw a True Frosh into, one who wasn't even here for Spring. The FEW true Frosh that have ANY success in Division 1, are usually Spread/Read Option type QBs that can make things happen with their feet. Kaaya is a pure pocket passer with no wheels. That means he was going to HAVE to stand in the pocket and throw. And yet our OC basically refused to allow that.

I think Kaaya has a bright future, but if you are going to start him, then you have to let him play. Any idiot that has watched 5 minutes of football knew what UL was going to do on defense. Stack the box, pressure Kaaya and force us to beat them through the air, and when the inevitable challenge came, Coley curled up in the fetal position and refused to play to win. It was f*cking PATHETIC.

This was a colossal failure by the staff. I could live with a loss to UL. I could live with a True Frosh imploding on the road. But SHOW ME YOU CAME TO PLAY. I mean WHY START the kid, only to curl up in the fetal position and insist on trying to run into 9 man fronts over and over again?

We have a real problem in this program.

AG barring a massive collapse, is going to be here at LEAST through next season IMO. Coley is our best recruiter. We have NO X and O's coaches on this staff.

IMO the only thing we can do at this point, is make smaller changes, and hope that the talent matures quickly enough to win in SPITE of our coaching deficiencies. The first thing that needs to happen, is Kehoe needs to go. I understand that Coley has done us NO favors with this playcalling and schemes, but Kehoe's OL has been a sub par unacceptable pile of mediocrity for years now. Guy is finished. We need to have at least SOME **** high caliber position coaches on this team. It needs to start with the OL.

It took you awhile but you are finally starting to get it...

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

Isn't this exactly what Coker was doing as OC for Butch? He roled up huge numbers against doormats like Temple and Rutgers and couldn't do anything against the good teams. Those huge numbers against inferior opponents resulted in higher averages and sustained Coker until Botch took his show on the road to Cleveland.

 

[k9cane]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

Isn't this exactly what Coker was doing as OC for Butch? He roled up huge numbers against doormats like Temple and Rutgers and couldn't do anything against the good teams. Those huge numbers against inferior opponents resulted in higher averages and sustained Coker until Botch took his show on the road to Cleveland.

that was largely true from 95 to 99, then when UM had a veritable Pro Bowl team on offense, they were dominant vs everyone for the most part

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

Isn't this exactly what Coker was doing as OC for Butch? He roled up huge numbers against doormats like Temple and Rutgers and couldn't do anything against the good teams. Those huge numbers against inferior opponents resulted in higher averages and sustained Coker until Botch took his show on the road to Cleveland.

that was largely true from 95 to 99, then when UM had a veritable Pro Bowl team on offense, they were dominant vs everyone for the most part

We don't have a veritable Pro Bowl team now, but the talent is improving substantially, and we are seeing and expecting the same kind of results based upon talent mismatches. Is Al on the same trajectory as Botch was on at this point in their respective careers at UM?

 

[LuCane]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

Isn't this exactly what Coker was doing as OC for Butch? He roled up huge numbers against doormats like Temple and Rutgers and couldn't do anything against the good teams. Those huge numbers against inferior opponents resulted in higher averages and sustained Coker until Botch took his show on the road to Cleveland.

that was largely true from 95 to 99, then when UM had a veritable Pro Bowl team on offense, they were dominant vs everyone for the most part

I was talking about this before yesterday's game. Do people realize that we complemented a superstar offense with:

A defense that had 8 1st round players on the field at the same time? Mcdougle, Joseph, Wilfork, DJ Williams, Vilma, P-Buch, Rumph, and Ed Reed.

 

[k9cane]

Great post, k9, and some great follow ups by weown.

Look at the difference in crispness between the.two teams. One looked sharp, crisp and precise. The other looked choppy and scared with no real idea what it wanted to do. Petrino had a first time starter, but he didn't put him in impossible spots. He treated him like any other QB he's ever had. He wasn't trying to run the clock out hoping for a fluke win. Al looked like he just wanted to sneak out with a win.

For all the clowns who kept telling me all we needed to do was run the ball as much as possible, this us why you don't do that. The other teams plays down hill on you and makes it virtually impossible to get anything going.

I said a couple weeks ago that we'd have to run the whole offense and not put Kaaya in 2nd and 3rd and long all night if we expected him to have any success. We did the exact opposite.

For the other clowns who just wanted to keep it close, was this close enough for you? Close enough to a team with new schemes on o, d, and special teams with a brand new QB and missing their best player Parker? Fugg off.

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

Isn't this exactly what Coker was doing as OC for Butch? He roled up huge numbers against doormats like Temple and Rutgers and couldn't do anything against the good teams. Those huge numbers against inferior opponents resulted in higher averages and sustained Coker until Botch took his show on the road to Cleveland.

that was largely true from 95 to 99, then when UM had a veritable Pro Bowl team on offense, they were dominant vs everyone for the most part

We don't have a veritable Pro Bowl team now, but the talent is improving substantially, and we are seeing and expecting the same kind of results based upon talent mismatches. Is Al on the same trajectory as Botch was on at this point in their respective careers at UM?

Well, let's put it this way, do any of us see a 12 game winning streak to end this season? 2000 was the real turning point for UM, and quite frankly ( and I certainly agree with you about UM's improved talent) this doesn't feel like that kinda season.....

 

[bob23]

Wow and this is the kid you guys were praising over Alin Edouard , wow you guys are thinking we need a spread , once again we let a Hometown kid go , Alin Edouard will be The man at cuse next year lol , wow Miami is my favorite team , but they have to start fighting for more kids to stay , we letting too many talent go , im telling you every kid that leave for college always ending up doing there thing. Watch what I tell you all this hype and nothing 2 time getting beat by Louisville..

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Chise, watch, UM will put up big numbers the next two games( well, hopefully) and then vs Nebraska back on the road against a good defense, well, y'know whats going to happen....

Isn't this exactly what Coker was doing as OC for Butch? He roled up huge numbers against doormats like Temple and Rutgers and couldn't do anything against the good teams. Those huge numbers against inferior opponents resulted in higher averages and sustained Coker until Botch took his show on the road to Cleveland.

that was largely true from 95 to 99, then when UM had a veritable Pro Bowl team on offense, they were dominant vs everyone for the most part

We don't have a veritable Pro Bowl team now, but the talent is improving substantially, and we are seeing and expecting the same kind of results based upon talent mismatches. Is Al on the same trajectory as Botch was on at this point in their respective careers at UM?

Well, let's put it this way, do any of us see a 12 game winning streak to end this season? 2000 was the real turning point for UM, and quite frankly ( and I certainly agree with you about UM's improved talent) this doesn't feel like that kinda season.....

It doesn't feel like that kind of season, but don't forget that Fancy Boy had been at UM for an entire year when he started in Warshington.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

I stopped after the first criticism with Kayaa. It was a designed lateral or stacy stepped back too far so not his fault. In the end, it hit Stacy Coley right in his hands, even if he was on his knees, and he dropped it...that's on Stacy. No point in reading/trusting anything after the line even if it's dead on accurate. Too much to read.

It was NOT a designed lateral. You NEVER throw that pass laterally. It was a HORRIBLE throw, HORRIBLE catch and **** poor effort to recover. That play epitomized the night. An epic abortion.

 

[bob23]

Its Still Alin over kaaya ! kaaya didn't pla anybody in high school that's why he looked like a stud , now you see what happens when you put a defense in front of him ,..