K9Cane's Korner - Buzzed

Either he fires his butt buddy or he can get the **** out as well.

The fact that he didn't fire him last year ruined golden in my eyes.

Firing D'onforio serves no purposes. This is Golden's defense. They'll both go down together.

All you fools that say this are dumb as ****.

Golden firing Dorito will be him admitting guilt and acknowledging that HIS scheme doesn't work... You do understand that this is possible right? He can say, "change is needed and I need to bring someone with an aggressive system that will allow this local talent base to succeed"

But PUNCI, while I don't disagree with you in that regard, what are the realistic possibilities of that actually happening?

It wouldn't surprise me in the least for the players to start quitting on this regime....

I think it's more likely than not, honestly. In the end everyone turns to self preservation.

Gotcha, but I wonder if its even past that point for Golden. As has been said here before by people that would know far more about that I would, I think his Penn St dalliance this past off-season ate up in job safety-equity he had built up.
 
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Firing D'onforio serves no purposes. This is Golden's defense. They'll both go down together.

All you fools that say this are dumb as ****.

Golden firing Dorito will be him admitting guilt and acknowledging that HIS scheme doesn't work... You do understand that this is possible right? He can say, "change is needed and I need to bring someone with an aggressive system that will allow this local talent base to succeed"

But PUNCI, while I don't disagree with you in that regard, what are the realistic possibilities of that actually happening?

It wouldn't surprise me in the least for the players to start quitting on this regime....

I think it's more likely than not, honestly. In the end everyone turns to self preservation.

Gotcha, but I wonder if its even past that point for Golden. As has been said here before by people that would know far more about that I would, I think his Penn St dalliance this past off-season ate up in job safety-equity he had built up.

Partial agree, but part of his safety equity is present in the cost of his buyout.. If donors put pressure, it makes more economical sense to try to appease them with Dorito's head now and see if a new D coach will make the difference for 1 year, as they've done at UF. But, in the end it might just be prolonging the inevitable, just like at UF..

I think Golden's gotta go now, but because of the $, I think we'll see it play out like I stated above
 
Either he fires his butt buddy or he can get the **** out as well.

The fact that he didn't fire him last year ruined golden in my eyes.

Firing D'onforio serves no purposes. This is Golden's defense. They'll both go down together.

All you fools that say this are dumb as ****.

Golden firing Dorito will be him admitting guilt and acknowledging that HIS scheme doesn't work... You do understand that this is possible right? He can say, "change is needed and I need to bring someone with an aggressive system that will allow this local talent base to succeed"

A man that wouldn't even admit he made adjustments after a win is going to admit his scheme is flawed? No way. Even if golden were forced to fire his friend Golden would either

1. Take complete control of the defense
2. Hire someone who will do the same thing Dorito did, run Goldens scheme
 
Man I talked to dukes mom and stepdad at the Louisville game. The entire family knows it's some b.s. Smdh I feel bad.
 
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Either he fires his butt buddy or he can get the **** out as well.

The fact that he didn't fire him last year ruined golden in my eyes.

Firing D'onforio serves no purposes. This is Golden's defense. They'll both go down together.

All you fools that say this are dumb as ****.

Golden firing Dorito will be him admitting guilt and acknowledging that HIS scheme doesn't work... You do understand that this is possible right? He can say, "change is needed and I need to bring someone with an aggressive system that will allow this local talent base to succeed"

Here's the thing Bill was running Butch's defense when he got fired. The 4-3 Over that they both learned from JJ at Okie St and Butch ran as DC in Dallas. However after watching the run defense suckazz in year three against the run, Year 4 Billy and Butch atleast attempted to put lipstick on a pig and pretend that they had fixed the run defense by playing 8 man fronts constantly. Yeah it lead to one of the worst pass defenses in Miami history, but atleast it appeared on paper like the run defense was fixed (as long as you ignore the Cuse and NCSt game). They actually tried to do something different instead of trotting out the same ole same ****, so it gave people a small grain of belief that a new DC might actually make a difference. However it all started with Butch already being on board with adjusting what he was doing long before firing his bff.

For Pete's sake Butch hired monkey boy who biggest claim to fame at that point was that he recruited Curtis Ennis for PSU. It's almost laughable thinking about it now. Butch fired his bff who was running his defense, because it wasn't working and he needed a change in philosophy so what does he do. His two top targets are recently fired Wanstache assistants who were just given the boot for the dog **** Wanny was putting on the field in Chicago. Some how over drinks on JJ's boat in the keys in between laughing about how JJ and Wanny were about to swindle Huizenga, Wanny vouched for monkey boy and by golly it worked. Butch and monkey boy changed the scheme for the "Over" to and "Under" and it freaking worked out. Butch was willing to adapt log before bringing in monkey boy, so when monkey boy got here his input was valued.

As someone who wanted Golden to succeed here I wholeheartedly want him to GTFO, because he won't adapt no matter who comes in. Duke game gave me hope he might be willing to adapt even if he thought everyone who watch the game was an idiot and couldn't tell that they tweaked the scheme, but last night proved it wasn't to be. No need in having him infecting some other poor sap with his stubborn loser mentality. No way Hurlie, Ice, Coley, Carroll all sat there and thought that **** scheme was a good idea, however, no ones else input is valued so a new DC won't work. Get him the *** out of here.
 
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Either he fires his butt buddy or he can get the **** out as well.

The fact that he didn't fire him last year ruined golden in my eyes.
He should have fired him after 2012. At this point I'm convinced he's trying to get himself fired. He got passed over for the only job he really wanted, and only came here to set himself up to get it in the first place. Like gogeta said, he's perfectly fine being slightly below/above average record wise so long as he has that extension he got in 2011. He's also a giant ******.

Agree 100%. If Golden hires a DC like Jim Leavitt who runs an aggressive 4-3 front I may give him a second chance, but he's too **** stubborn to admit his defense wont work.
 
Either he fires his butt buddy or he can get the **** out as well.

The fact that he didn't fire him last year ruined golden in my eyes.
He should have fired him after 2012. At this point I'm convinced he's trying to get himself fired. He got passed over for the only job he really wanted, and only came here to set himself up to get it in the first place. Like gogeta said, he's perfectly fine being slightly below/above average record wise so long as he has that extension he got in 2011. He's also a giant ******.

Agree 100%. If Golden hires a DC like Jim Leavitt who runs an aggressive 4-3 front I may give him a second chance, but he's too **** stubborn to admit his defense wont work.

1899, honestly, Im not sure that's realistically in the cards given that loyalty factor and Golden's stubborness. I think going the Brian Billick route- blowing the whole thing up- would be the best way to go at this juncture. Of course, meaning that UM would still have to hire the right guy

Regardless, I want someone who plays/coaches the game at a fast tempo and let's athletes just do their thing. Football shouldn't be overly complicated
 
Great stuff, k9.

I just feel bad for Duke, Denzel, Chickillo, etc... For being stuck with this inept coaching staff and pathetically passive defensive scheme.

That said, I don't even get angry anymore, as I fully expect us to lose virtually every game. The only way we pull out victories against even mediocre teams is with a couple turnovers and several unforced errors by the opponent.
It's a god**** shame that Duke Johnson, a guy who is going to break the school's all-purpose yards record in just ~2.5 seasons of work, has had to play for a **** heap coaching staff like this.


I said during the game. It makes me sick duke, chick, perryman, and Dorsett will never sniff an acc title game.
 
In the summer I picked the Cincy game as Al's last one. Figured we would be 2 and 4 right now, so Al is plus one on me. If Cincy beats us in front of empty seats, I hope to see Chud at news conference on Monday being introduced as new HC. He will have the off week to get ready for VT, but honestly can that be any worse than Al and Mark having 4 years to get ready for it. Keeping figures crossed for him leveraging Butch as new DC. Sorry Al, it is time go. Stupid Paul Jonson was the only coach in ACC who had not used you as a snot rag and now he has. Why, because he had the sense to FIRE the idiot who invented the stupid defense you insist on playing. It Al is still coach on Monday, I'll see you guy next year.
 
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Yes......you almost wonder if this is intentional at this point. .he got butt hurt about not getting that Pedo state job,and got caught looking. As much as we all dislike him....he can't be this stupid to keep trotting out the same garbage over and over again. ...I wonder if he is daring UM to fire him???
 
If Golden cant institute change and improvement to the D now, what kind of improvement could we really get from a new DC? The fact is the guy sucks as a HC. Time for a new one.
 
Golden seems like he wants to get fired. He won't make any changes after season. Why does he have to? He got a crazy 4 year ext for doing nothing on the field. Canes fans would say it was because of his loyalty during the investigation. And that's BS! He woulda left at the first offer from PSU. And how many other jobs was he interviewing for. A change is needed for these kids mostly. Their development is going no where. Where is the improvement in players. DP? Coley? Howard? Bush? Lewis? Kaaya talent will be wasted the longer he's head coach. This Miami administration has this team in hand cuffs w their handing out of extensions w zero on the field results.
 
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Either he fires his butt buddy or he can get the **** out as well.

The fact that he didn't fire him last year ruined golden in my eyes.

Firing D'onforio serves no purposes. This is Golden's defense. They'll both go down together.

All you fools that say this are dumb as ****.

Golden firing Dorito will be him admitting guilt and acknowledging that HIS scheme doesn't work... You do understand that this is possible right? He can say, "change is needed and I need to bring someone with an aggressive system that will allow this local talent base to succeed"

I halfway agree. I don't agree with the whole "it's HIS defense and he won't change it" line of thought, but I'm not sure it matters at this point. What we've learned of Golden's defense is what we've learned of Golden the coach--he is risk-averse and he is content with being decent. He might bring in a new coordinator, but it seems dubious that he will philosophically convert to aggressive patterns of play. It's not really in him. He said after the game that "we think this is the best way to play them." You can change DC's, but the gameplan would still be about containing the offense, winning key downs, and eeking out a 33-27 win. He's not about crushing teams and expecting to win each game. He manages the entire game that way.
 
Jesus. Golden on radio bragging about holding GT to 28 points. No one cares u used car salesmen. U Lost! That's all that matters. Ur team scored 17 points against an average at best GT defense. And ur bragging bout holding them to 28. The faster ur gone the better for the program
 
Its no longer Golden's responsibility, he's prove he can't coach and he's got the stats to prove it. The problems land squarely on the shoulders of the President, AD and Boosters! They may be liberal academics, but they can see the damage he is doing to the football team and the University. Damage to say....losing money on ticket sales, apparel, concessions, tv revenue and bowl game revenue.
 
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