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RVACane said:
So here’s a novel idea. Every insult @SinisterCane threw was a counterpunch. The insults thrown by @TheOriginalCane , @OrangeBowlMagic and @GrozDozer were all 1st blood insults so those three got infractions and thread and and @SinisterCane skates free with nada. Unfortunately for Groz he had a couple points so the system kicked him for the week.

For all of you that draw 1st blood and then cry at the counterattack, or 3rd parties who report the counterattack, that’s the risk you/they take and what you/they get when you go down the aggressor’s path.
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Great

Now I gotta go back and read this thread
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
I know it didn't surprise you one bit, nor anyone on this board, because everyone on this board knows more than the people who do this for a living. We all know that. But it surprised MANY people who actually follow the sport nationally, who talk to people who know those in the coaching fraternity...people who wrote articles ad nauseum about how great this guy was, how he's on the fast track to success, how lucky we are to get him.

And he gets here and not only does he not do a good job, which I guess I could live with, but he's an abrasive personality, he clashes with every and anyone, he's standoffish, he doesn't recruit...it's like he was a completely different person than anyone reported on before he got here. James Franklin hired him, Nick Saban hired him, Jim Harbaugh hired him, he didn't sabotage those programs or torch them with negativity, yet when he gets here, he's an unmitigated disaster in every single capacity, both personally and professionally? Again, I just cannot figure out how this happens to Miami and nobody else. And it's not a Mario thing, either.
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Not to extrapolate too far with an anecdote, but as a hiring MGR, I have been fully bamboozled- once - by a character as you describe in this post. It was literally like a switch flipped with this person once promoted after a year of stellar work. Entire persona changed with a position and rank upgrade to absolute cancerous nightmare for the whole organization. Took a full year and a half to run this person off without sparking a litigation. Can relate to a mistake being made even with earnest long audition. People gonna people.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Nobody cares. Beat it.
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Add it to the fight card!!!

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OrangeBowlMagic said:
And he gets here, and in 1 year, he's a complete loser? He walked in the door and became an immediate pulsing malignant tumor with zero tangible skills and completely bombed? How is that even possible? It's not like Mario is the only guy who'd have hired this dude. Again, I read he'd have endless opportunities once he left Michigan, but the allure of Miami (aka the massive contract) pulled him from where he was comfortable and again accelerated his rapidly soaring career. And in 1 year, he's a fraud and a loser and needs to be shot into the sun?

Are we really just this unlucky?
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Good post

What's a little alarming is that if all that is true...How was CMC hustled like this?
 
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harphong said:
Not to extrapolate too far with an anecdote, but as a hiring MGR, I have been fully bamboozled- once - by a character as you describe in this post. It was literally like a switch flipped with this person once promoted after a year of stellar work. Entire persona changed with a position and rank upgrade to absolute cancerous nightmare for the whole organization. Took a full year and a half to run this person off without sparking a litigation. Can relate to a mistake being made even with earnest long audition. People gonna people.
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I did MY part!
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Your 3rd point is incorrect. Weiss was named Co-OC (along with Sherrone Moore) after Gattis left. When Gattis left, he was the OC. They filled the vacancy by naming 2 dudes, Weiss and Moore, as Co-OCs. So that whole 3rd bullet is wrong.

I just don't get how someone can "always suck" and go from an SEC WR coach, to a Big 10 WR coach, to an SEC Co-OC, to a Big 10 OC, to an award for the very best ******* coordinator in the entire god**** country, and he's a complete disaster, and of course ends up in our lap? How the **** does that happen? I mean, Lincoln Riley and Brent Venables won this award. And we get the guy who joins that group but has done nothing but fail upward? I'm absolultely baffled how this **** only happens to Miami.
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After he signed Michigan fans were pretty okay with him moving on. It seems that he had taken credit for the offense when in fact it was Harbaugh's. Some
were upset he was taking the credit for the Broyles like if he was an innovative cutting edge OC. Mario's research has to be better and I for one would pick a proven guy rather than someone who has not proved himself yet.
 
JZCane0825 said:
Shea Tierney is a name that makes a ton of sense, and likely why the move hasn't been made yet. NFL guy, former Bama staffer with Mario, worked under Dorsey and now with Daboll, who was also at Bama.

Daniel Jones just had the best season of his career under him and Daboll and TVD has a similar makeup and skill set if his talents are ever utilized correctly. Mario has made no secret that he wants to model Miami like Alabama and Georgia and both of those programs had NFL guys coordinating their offenses this year, albeit, Tierney is far more of an upstart compared to BOB and Monken.

Woudn't be my first choice necessarily but can see the vision for sure.
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Interesting name. Zero play calling and a very short career in football. Would be a very risky move and I know everyone says we’re past giving people their first shot at doing xyz but maybe we should be thinking outside of the box
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
This guy won the Broyles Award. Coached at majorly prestigious programs. Continued to ascend from position coach, to coordinator, etc. I know there were some things at Michigan that were not all roses, but by all accounts, this dude was a rising star in the coaching profession. I read article after article when he was hired about how we'd be lucky to keep him for 2 years, that he's a shoe-in to be a college head coach, raving about his leadership skills, etc.

And he gets here, and in 1 year, he's a complete loser? He walked in the door and became an immediate pulsing malignant tumor with zero tangible skills and completely bombed? How is that even possible? It's not like Mario is the only guy who'd have hired this dude. Again, I read he'd have endless opportunities once he left Michigan, but the allure of Miami (aka the massive contract) pulled him from where he was comfortable and again accelerated his rapidly soaring career. And in 1 year, he's a fraud and a loser and needs to be shot into the sun?

Are we really just this unlucky? Look at the list of Broyles Award winners for the past 10 or so years. They're all HC's, essentially. Pat Narduzzi, Tom Herman, Lincoln Riley, Brent Venables, Tony Elliott, Mike Locksley, Steve Sarkisian. Kirby Smart won it, Gus Malzahn won it. But the guy who we poach off the list is a fraud? How the **** is this possible? How ******* cursed is this program?
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I’ve done my research man. He’s bad bro. I’m not gone blast everything I’ve learned but the proof is what you saw
 
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