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Jameis Winston cover up

I'd still be very surprised if anything at all comes of this. I think it'll stay in the news for a while then just fade away.
 
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canesman said:
Tally PD has a ****storm on their hands. They are f**cked! Will be interesting to see if any FSU employee was aware of the situation.

Jameis will be fine. No physical evidence. They can't even prosecute at this point.
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the article stated they collected everything from her which im sure would be physical evidence including a rape kit to confirm DNA. They hadn't requested Winston's DNA to match what they had collected. Physical evidence cant go away unless they disposed of her test results and the rape kit taken the day of the assault. That is what the family was ****ed over because they "didn't want to alert" Winston he was a suspect. Yet Winston's lawyer, the fsu team attorney(another no no in the ncaa rules), knew of the accusation and had all the info from the case. they are going to ****can some people in trailerhassee over this. kinda like good ole George Z the people associated flat out quit in that whole thing over incompetence. If it was a cover up and the school knew being the lawyer is a "FSU TEAM" attorney you could see serious repercussions. Fvck them they deserve it.
 
"This is a criminal investigation...It has nothing to do with the football program."

Talking heads in the media repeat until it becomes fact. Seems to be working for another school....
 
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So FSU will have to suspend Winston when charges are filled. FSU will have to start their 3rd string QB against Duke in the ACC championship game. Duke will win tha ACC!
 
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CaniacMike21 said:
I'd still be very surprised if anything at all comes of this. I think it'll stay in the news for a while then just fade away.
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Rape accusations typically don't just "fade away". There's no doubt some interested parties across the country now watching this, NOW, rape victims advocacy groups etc.

This is going to get very, very interesting.
 
4Canes said:
CaniacMike21 said:
I'd still be very surprised if anything at all comes of this. I think it'll stay in the news for a while then just fade away.
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Rape accusations typically don't just "fade away". There's no doubt some interested parties across the country now watching this, NOW, rape victims advocacy groups etc.

This is going to get very, very interesting.
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Good post. Drug charges and B&E claims against football players disappear. Rape charges are taken very seriously, as they should be. Unless, of course, you work for the Tallahassee Police Department and your QB is the alleged rapist. To the rare credit of the Gainesville Police Department, they immediately arrested Chris Rainey after the "time to die" episode with that girl.
 
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Doesn't mean he did it......this just happened last year.

University of Montana Quarterback Very Easily Acquitted of Rape

University of Montana football player Jordan Johnson's nationally publicized saga is now over: a jury only took a little over two hours on Friday to acquit the suspended quarterback of rape.

"The lack of evidence was troubling. The alleged victim's mixed messages and comments to friends cast doubt on allegations. The alleged victim even questioned events of the evening and there was no evidence that Jordan Johnson knew that he had *** without consent," an alternate juror told KPAX.

Let's take a closer look at those reasons for his acquittal. (Here's a good summary of the case against him if you need to catch up first.)

Regarding mixed messages:

Joel Thompson Assistant Attorney General then asked the woman why she did not scream during the alleged rape. She replied that ‘she was not prepared to have a confrontation with Johnson, and that she just wanted him gone.'
and:

[Defense attorney David] Paoli also asked her about a note she sent to a high school friend in Great Falls that detailed the trouble she was having with getting her mom, aunt and cousin to be on her side, and also included thoughts she was having about feeling responsible for what happened and even guilty.

Part of that note read:

And now I keep thinking that maybe I did want it, and that's why I didn't punch him or kick him or bite him. It's all kind of ridiculous because I know I didn't ask for it. The more and more this goes on, the more I feel guilty about it. The whole situation makes me think I just lied.

When the woman was asked later if she has had expressions of guilt and responsibility spanning the past few months, she said that was correct.
Regarding comments to friends:

Paoli also went back to yesterday's questioning to revisit the woman's testimony regarding a text message she sent to her nurse practitioner at First Step that read "I'm so happy!!!," which she confirmed was in reference to former athletic director Jim O'Day and former football coach Robin Pflugrad being fired last March.

Today, she did agree that she was happy that they were fired, but said she was happy because something was being done on campus in response to her sexual assault.
David Lisak, a clinical psychologist and forensic consultant perhaps best known for his excellent research on repeated rape among undetected rapists, testified at the trial to remind jurors that well over 80 percent of rapes are not "stranger rapes," most rapists attack due to power and anger, not sexual deprivation, and it's (obviously) completely reasonable for rape survivors to freeze, feel confused and blame themselves instead of their rapist. The jurors were apparently unconvinced.

It's incredibly frustrating that the jurors didn't feel there was enough evidence to show that Johnson actually raped the woman in part because she was visibly happy that the administration was actually taking action against the football team and, probably more importantly, visibly conflicted about being part of a case that received so much attention. But this is why rape cases are so difficult to prove, especially when the people involved are intoxicated aquaintances — and the accused is a **** football player.

Johnson is still indefinitely suspended by the University of Montana; he has to appeal if he wants to come back, and would have to sit out another season before getting back on the field if he decides to transfer to another school.
 
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