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Jai Lucas set to become next men’s basketball coach

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passitback said:
Nice write up by Grok.

My concern is this: One and dones will be difficult to recruit to Miami. So my question is how heavily will Lucas hit the portal? Don't get me wrong, I believe a good balance of recruits and portal players is needed to establish culture and create equilibrium. That looks different for every coach at every program, though.

One thing I have noticed is a lot of coaches are moving away from recruiting high school kids. By and large the days of bringing in a class of freshmen and growing a program over 4 years are gone. Look at Pitino at SJU, Kelsey at Louisville, Pope at Kentucky, May at Michigan, etc.

That's the model now. I'm interested in seeing how Lucas navigates these waters at Miami, because recruiting kids to a blue blood program is a different ballgame.
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Why would one and dones be difficult to recruit to Miami?
 
KANE said:
I personally thought that we needed a man with head coaching experience. This conference chews up and spits out inexperienced coaches, left and right. I'll take a wait and see approach. but as I always say, "Miami is not a school for first time Head Coaches". I sure hope this works out.
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Yessir.
I share your concerns regarding a rookie HC in the ACC. As a Maryland grad, I've followed this conference since the early 1980s, and rarely have I seen a rookie HC do well. Even some of the successful mid-major coaches have faltered in this conference. I wish Jai, son of a a Terp legend, well.
 
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Typical Miami ****. At least so far I haven't seen that Lucas has an uncle on the BOT. Inexperienced/unqualified with loud and obvious connections is the Miami daily double. We seem to hit on at least one of the two every time
 
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Career assistant, who has coached at some blue bloods, or at schools that have significant financial advantages, known as a "recruiter" but has never done it at a place where he is at a disadvantage in talent acquisition. Coached under a legend, where **** near none of his assistants have been able to win on their own. History may not always repeat itself, but is sure as **** rhymes...
 
Canedude08 said:
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Career assistant, who has coached at some blue bloods, or at schools that have significant financial advantages, known as a "recruiter" but has never done it at a place where he is at a disadvantage in talent acquisition. Coached under a legend, where **** near none of his assistants have been able to win on their own. History may not always repeat itself, but is sure as **** rhymes...
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He landed at an appropriately sized program after being with Calipari at Memphis and Kentucky with the tag of being a big time recruiter. Failed miserably at USF and is back to being an assistant under great coaches. Now at Illinois. No high major took a chance on Antigua.
 
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Tonio said:
Does basketball work the same as football where we need some legacy hires on staff too?

Need Shane Larkin coaching guards, Jack McClinton shooting coach, Rick Barry free throw coach, cmon let’s really CIS this coaching staff
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Popa coaching the bigs?
 
fincane said:
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He landed at an appropriately sized program after being with Calipari at Memphis and Kentucky with the tag of being a big time recruiter. Failed miserably at USF and is back to being an assistant under great coaches. Now at Illinois. No high major took a chance on Antigua.
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Lucas may flop, odds aren’t in his favor. But I’ll reserve judgement until I see his staff. If he can hire a coach with good experience as a top assistant, it will help him tremendously. But let’s not act like Miami is turning away top level candidates.
 
fincane said:
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He landed at an appropriately sized program after being with Calipari at Memphis and Kentucky with the tag of being a big time recruiter. Failed miserably at USF and is back to being an assistant under great coaches. Now at Illinois. No high major took a chance on Antigua.
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Exactly. You don't take a chance on this kind of coach if you are a serious program. A school like USF had to take a shot, they have no other option. Miami on the other hand, there's enough money and recent success to attract a legit candidate.
 
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Lucas may work out. I sure as **** hope he does. But if history is an indicator (not just at Miami, but in general), there’s a higher likelihood this will be a disaster than a success. Inexperienced “recruiting savants” don’t often have success as 1st time HC’s in conferences like the ACC.

I’m very curious who else Miami interviewed, seriously considered, and/or offered this job. Was Lucas a Plan C candidate after experienced HC’s like Jans, Wade, Pitino Jr, etc told us no? Or has he been our first choice all along?

If the former, that’s a tough pillow to swallow, but at least we went after the most logical candidates first. If the latter, Rad is dumber and/or cheaper than I could’ve ever imagined.
 
I'm looking at the AP top 25. What do I see? 23 of 25 Head Coaches that were head coaches prior to this stop.

Shayer at Duke which is unique as he was groomed for years at Duke to be his successor.

I mean we hire a veteran Head Coach that comes in has most success in program history, and decide nah lets not go that route again. Lets hire an unproven head coach, and let us be his training ground.

It's mind boggling. Why do ADs try and make their job harder than it has to be?

Drad hasnt hired one good coach at Miami.

He is worse than Blake James at this point.

Syracuse hires assistant coach-disaster

Notre Dame hires assistant coach-disaster

UNC hires assistant-fans want him gone

Louisville tried to go that assistant route-disaster, they had to hire a coach with experience and bam turn around year one
 
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aelmiami said:
Lucas may flop, odds aren’t in his favor. But I’ll reserve judgement until I see his staff. If he can hire a coach with good experience as a top assistant, it will help him tremendously. But let’s not act like Miami is turning away top level candidates.
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We don't know who Miami is actually turning away. What makes a top level candidate for one spot does not always makes a top level candidate for another. Coach L was perfect for what Miami needed at the time. Would he have flourished at UNC? Maybe. Or maybe that job requires a different type of coach to succeed.
 
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aelmiami said:
Lucas may flop, odds aren’t in his favor. But I’ll reserve judgement until I see his staff. If he can hire a coach with good experience as a top assistant, it will help him tremendously. But let’s not act like Miami is turning away top level candidates.
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Miami isn't even reaching out. Why make this hire RIGHT NOW? You're telling me that a good coach at a midmajor can't be sold on this job? Randy Bennett isn't interested in making a move into a consistent multibid conference? Ben McCollum has won everywhere he's been, but he wouldn't be interested in Miami? This is how I know a lot of our "Fans" don't pay attention. Then again, the Miami Football/Duke Basketball segment of this fanbase is also the most likely to support this nonsense.
 
gacaneaddict said:
I'm looking at the AP top 25. What do I see? 23 of 25 Head Coaches that were head coaches prior to this stop.

Shayer at Duke which is unique as he was groomed for years at Duke to be his successor.

I mean we hire a veteran Head Coach that comes in has most success in program history, and decide nah lets not go that route again. Lets hire an unproven head coach, and let us be his training ground.

It's mind boggling. Why do ADs try and make their job harder than it has to be?

Drad hasnt hired one good coach at Miami.

He is worse than Blake James at this point.
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JD, Cullop and Lucas. Cullop is the ONLY hire that one could say made any sense. Then again, Rad has not made many decent hires throughout his career. Dude lucked into Dabo, and was able to ride that run for years. Look at Clemson basketball, Brownell has been mediocre for most of his tenure, dude has stayed forever, mostly because Clemson doesn't give a rip about his program, as long as the football program is winning.
 
gacaneaddict said:
I'm looking at the AP top 25. What do I see? 23 of 25 Head Coaches that were head coaches prior to this stop.

Shayer at Duke which is unique as he was groomed for years at Duke to be his successor.

I mean we hire a veteran Head Coach that comes in has most success in program history, and decide nah lets not go that route again. Lets hire an unproven head coach, and let us be his training ground.

It's mind boggling. Why do ADs try and make their job harder than it has to be?

Drad hasnt hired one good coach at Miami.

He is worse than Blake James at this point.
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While that stat shouldn't be the ultimate decider I would be shocked if even that small amount of research was done in the hiring process. Something as simple as the overwhelming majority of the best teams in the country don't have first time head coaches.
 
Canedude08 said:
Exactly. You don't take a chance on this kind of coach if you are a serious program. A school like USF had to take a shot, they have no other option. Miami on the other hand, there's enough money and recent success to attract a legit candidate.
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Is there enough money? That’s the question. Miami spends money on football
 
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