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Does anyone remember size being mentioned at all in O'Leary's recruitment? I just don't remember that ever being mentioned at all by ANYONE, and yet he looks relatively tiny out there on the field as a TE. I can't believe it was never discussed.... maybe it was and I'm just not remembering it.
Regardless.... though he looks small, he's already made some significant plays at FSU, so it's not like he's a scrub.
Regardless.... though he looks small, he's already made some significant plays at FSU, so it's not like he's a scrub.
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Nope never remember size as an issue - just that he was highly rated. He does look small and stiff. Made a few plays but DEF NOT a game changer. Not a good blocker and that can't help a run game. Sometimes things just have a way of working out...
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It's funny how people were comparing O'leary to Dallas Clark. The guy could physically dominate in HS but is to stiff for the next level. He's decent but not a difference maker. Bakas who was as high on him as anyone has admitted he whiffed on this one and views Walford as a better player/prospect now.
He didn't play stiff in HS. He looked pretty fluid at LB when he played on D. His junior year when Dwyer had Elam, Gerald Christian, etc. and won a State Championship. He stood out.
His height was brought up as an issue in HS, during his recruitment.
Wisconsin was the right choice for Brissett...neither UM or UF would of been the best option to get him to the NFL. Would of RS behind Wilson for a year then likely been a 4 year starter as there was no one up there who could challenge him.
4 years for a prospect of his ability level to develop in a major conf like the big ten....for sure he would get a shot in the NFL.
Made the wrong choice and will transfer....fight to get two years at some lower tier program, learning a new offense.....he is up against it now to get a shot at the NFL, if he went to Wisky he woulda walked onto an NFL roster.
4 years for a prospect of his ability level to develop in a major conf like the big ten....for sure he would get a shot in the NFL.
Made the wrong choice and will transfer....fight to get two years at some lower tier program, learning a new offense.....he is up against it now to get a shot at the NFL, if he went to Wisky he woulda walked onto an NFL roster.
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He would have been playing for his 3rd Offensive Coordinator, next fall at Wisky. That doesn't do much for a QBs development. Brissett was very raw coming out of HS. He could of came to UM, and had an opportunity to be a 2 year starter here.
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who is the OP??
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I mentioned the height issue to Bakas after watching Dwyer play that Ohio team where they got robbed....he dismissed it and said he was a legit 6'3
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Wasnt raw coming out of HS relative to the other top QBs in the country, had offers from the top SEC and ACC programs, physically has it all.
Your own logic should tell u being a 4 year guy at a more highly rated program that plays in BCS bowl games is better than possibly being a 2 year guy at UM, playing in no BCS bowls and after the fact no bowl games.
He gets to learn from Russell Wilson at Wisky.....he gets to learn from Harris here, which would u prefer to learn from as a model for a QB?
Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick played 50 games in college......neither were pro prospects after two years as a starter.
RGIII played over 40 games in college....after two years as a starter he was perceived as a WR prospect. Look at those three guys now, experience, years as the unchallenged starter developed them enough to get them a long look from scouts and a shot at the NFL.
Manziel would be a back up behind Mariota right now, Bridgewater would be a back up behind Morris.....they both made good decisions. Bridgewater is already a pro prospect with 26 games of experience under his belt.
The best thing a QB with pro aspirations can do for himself is pick the best program where you have a good chance to start 3-4 years.
Big programs load up on top HS QBs to serve their own interests not the interest of the individual QB.....young QBs quite often are not mindful of this when choosing a program.
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I live a couple miles from Dwyer.....I saw him play a ton, the kid was raw. A good athlete....but Dwyer's OC and QB coach sucks. They always have issues developing their QBs.
Russell Wilson, Kaepernick, and RGIII also didn't play for 3 offensive coordinators in 3 years. Brissett would have through his first 3 years at Wisconsin. That wouldn't have helped his pro aspirations. Fisch has shown what he's been able to do so far with Jacory, and Morris in a couple of years.
Either way.....It was UM or UF at the end. He wasn't considering Wisconsin.
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Scouting services, top programs offering scholies and his tape say different. I did use the word relative....most guys coming out of hs have a lot to learn, relative to the other top guys he was just fine and highly rated prospect across the country.
Irrelevant, all the other QBs would have to learn the same thing, level playing field but he is far more talented than they are....the offense didnt change that much from one OC to the other....Wilson learned that offense, when he transferred there, in a month.
Playing time thats what it's about...3-4 years on the field, gaining experience, showing your talent in big games, learning from your mistakes.
Unimportant, he would be sitting behind Morris and then have to fight with Olsen....thats not as positive a scenario for him as what he would have experienced at Wisky...Wisky was in the mix maybe the third option, boy made a dumb decision as they should of been number one....his pro-prospects are in the toilet right now.
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These guys are very different from a discipline perspective, Manziel is very improvisational, Mariota is surgical and learned the Oregon offense quickly and already executes it better than Thomas did. Mariota would of cleaned up Manziel in a comp for the job from an efficiency and knowledge of offense pov imo.
Also he is just as athletic and has a stronger more accurate arm.
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