It's Time

[Fountain of Canes]

FSU has a talent advantage and coaching advantage. Why should we expect to beat them? We don't even have the home-field advantage.

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

 

[V-DawgCane]

Hopefully we can make them punt the ball in the first half

 

[Hurracanes]

FSU has a talent advantage and coaching advantage. Why should we expect to beat them? We don't even have the home-field advantage.

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

 

[valid]

We will beat them in 2015 when Jameis is gone (hopefully Golden and Dorito as well), and Olsen is starting for us.

We will get outclassed this season. I have seen absolutely nothing so far to suggest we can hang the #1 team in the country. They actually recruit DTs in case you haven't heard.

 

[Fountain of Canes]

FSU has a talent advantage and coaching advantage. Why should we expect to beat them? We don't even have the home-field advantage.

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

 

[mavericksouth]

Mark and his defense is still here. We lose by 21. No orange and green glasses here. Just cold hard truth.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Fsu is very beatable this year. They don't have near the weapons as last year on both sides. With telvin Smith, lamarcus Joyner gone and Freeman,and Benjamin gone they are very beatable. It sucks most of their stars came from our backyard.

they've been loading up for years. they lost like 8 or 9 to the NFL last year. didnt matter.

we wont beat FSU as long as F.A.G. is here. book it

Yeah they lost alot player on defense that year not offense. this year they lose both. the the talent drop off its way further then it was for 2012 team to 2013 team.

Lol

Lol

Keep dreaming bud.

FSU lost the Center, 1st and 3rd string RB, and 2 WRs.

FSU should have the best OL in the country with 4 NFL picks returning (Erving, matius, and Jackson are top prospcects at their position), the guy who finished 2nd for the Mackey award at TE, the best player in college at QB, and 4 RBs with big time NfL futures.

Freeman was solid but not elite, Wilder was a solid big back, but lost reps to Karlos as the season progressed. Karlos William, Pender, and Cook are freaks. Ryan Green was the top APB 2 years ago on rivals, and can also play slot. FSU is loaded at RB.

Offense is loaded. Losing Benjamin hurts, but Travis Rudolph steps in right away as a Rashaad Greene clone, and Lane will get a chance for Benjamin's reps if he is ready.

Defense will be weaker at DT with Jernigan gone and some possible Med DQs pending.. At safety Tyler Hunter takes Brooks spot (Hunter was the starting safety last year until he got injured), Trey Marshall will take Joyners Nickel spot (already on Campus, similar player to Joyner, clocked at 4.36 at the Nike Sparq camp)

Losing Telvin, Christian Jones, and Joyner hurts, but they are being replaced by studs.

Matthew Thomas is up to 240 LBs and will step in for an inconsistent C. Jones as the Jack Linebacker that primarily rushes but can also cover WRs and TEs at an elite level. There are six 4 and 5 star LBs fighting for Telvins spot.

FSU runs primarily a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 depending on how the Jack lines up.

DE Mario Edwards can play the 5 in many situations. he and DT Eddie Goldman are future 1st round picks.

FSU loses leadership on defense and may be weaker at DT, but overall is a very strong team. You guys have to wait to next year to have a chance, that's when FSu could lose 80%+ of its starters.

Injuries at DT, WR, or losing a player like Mario Edwards or Winston could definetely even out the game but the talent level and coaching talent between both teams is still too big.

Type lol a few more times, you bargain-basement fa-got.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

FSU is prob gonna be favored by like 17 points.

 

[bobbydigius]

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

Lulz, FSU is loaded next year. Their secondary and DL is beastly. On offense they will have a solid OL, great stable of backs, one excellent receiver in Greene and the best player in CFB in Winston. We have a fighting chance because it is at home and anything can happen in a rivalry game but you are crazy if you think we match up overall. Sure we have players here and there that match up but for the most part we don't. You must have been one of those guys that agreed in with Zone last year that thought Winston was overrated, FSU's secondary was suspect and that we had a better DL than them, huh?

 

[Fountain of Canes]

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

Lulz, FSU is loaded next year. Their secondary and DL is beastly. On offense they will have a solid OL, great stable of backs, one excellent receiver in Greene and the best player in CFB in Winston. We have a fighting chance because it is at home and anything can happen in a rivalry game but you are crazy if you think we match up overall. Sure we have players here and there that match up but for the most part we don't. You must have been one of those guys that agreed in with Zone last year that thought Winston was overrated, FSU's secondary was suspect and that we had a better DL than them, huh?

Their Dline is not beastly, Jerniagn was beastly , everyone else just benefited from him on the Dline, there secondary will not be the same without Joyner, yes they were sound last year but Joyner was everything, it will be hard to replace him. their Oline is very good, and who is this stable of back you speak of? Karlos williams is a great back but everyone else is unproven including Dalvin Cook . and No, Winston is an Great QB, I remember watching him at Elite 11 and knew he was going to give us ****, I absoluteney hate zone defense and all of D'NO schemes but we will be alot more aggressive this year, i know it.they will unleash all of our beast we have. Our Dline was horrible but with Wyche and Heurtelou, I am way more confident in our Dline this year. When we beat FSU , I will have the last Laugh

 

[bobbydigius]

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

Lulz, FSU is loaded next year. Their secondary and DL is beastly. On offense they will have a solid OL, great stable of backs, one excellent receiver in Greene and the best player in CFB in Winston. We have a fighting chance because it is at home and anything can happen in a rivalry game but you are crazy if you think we match up overall. Sure we have players here and there that match up but for the most part we don't. You must have been one of those guys that agreed in with Zone last year that thought Winston was overrated, FSU's secondary was suspect and that we had a better DL than them, huh?

Their Dline is not beastly, Jerniagn was beastly , everyone else just benefited from him on the Dline, there secondary will not be the same without Joyner, yes they were sound last year but Joyner was everything, it will be hard to replace him. their Oline is very good, and who is this stable of back you speak of? Karlos williams is a great back but everyone else is unproven including Dalvin Cook . and No, Winston is an Great QB, I remember watching him at Elite 11 and knew he was going to give us ****, I absoluteney hate zone defense and all of D'NO schemes but we will be alot more aggressive this year, i know it.they will unleash all of our beast we have. Our Dline was horrible but with Wyche and Heurtelou, I am way more confident in our Dline this year. When we beat FSU , I will have the last Laugh

Last laugh? What are you talking about, I want us to beat FSU in the worst way, Im just objective and know it's not probable. FSU's secondary is gonna be one of the best in the nation. Ramsey and Darby are future 1st-3rd round picks, Nate Andrews was a steal for them. **** I forgot about PJ Williams. Their front three of Casher-Goldman-Edwards is also very stout. Like I said you were probably one of those that thought they were gonna struggle last year after they lost the German, Tank and Xavier Rhodes. FSU's RBs arent experienced but they are very talented. Pender is a stud. I dont know what to tell you, you are underrating them and overrating us.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

Lulz, FSU is loaded next year. Their secondary and DL is beastly. On offense they will have a solid OL, great stable of backs, one excellent receiver in Greene and the best player in CFB in Winston. We have a fighting chance because it is at home and anything can happen in a rivalry game but you are crazy if you think we match up overall. Sure we have players here and there that match up but for the most part we don't. You must have been one of those guys that agreed in with Zone last year that thought Winston was overrated, FSU's secondary was suspect and that we had a better DL than them, huh?

Their Dline is not beastly, Jerniagn was beastly , everyone else just benefited from him on the Dline, there secondary will not be the same without Joyner, yes they were sound last year but Joyner was everything, it will be hard to replace him. their Oline is very good, and who is this stable of back you speak of? Karlos williams is a great back but everyone else is unproven including Dalvin Cook . and No, Winston is an Great QB, I remember watching him at Elite 11 and knew he was going to give us ****, I absoluteney hate zone defense and all of D'NO schemes but we will be alot more aggressive this year, i know it.they will unleash all of our beast we have. Our Dline was horrible but with Wyche and Heurtelou, I am way more confident in our Dline this year. When we beat FSU , I will have the last Laugh

At first I thought you were just slow. I am now confident you have Down's Syndrome.

 

[Canes2082]

Fsu is very beatable this year. They don't have near the weapons as last year on both sides. With telvin Smith, lamarcus Joyner gone and Freeman,and Benjamin gone they are very beatable. It sucks most of their stars came from our backyard.

they've been loading up for years. they lost like 8 or 9 to the NFL last year. didnt matter.

we wont beat FSU as long as F.A.G. is here. book it

Yeah they lost alot player on defense that year not offense. this year they lose both. the the talent drop off its way further then it was for 2012 team to 2013 team.

Lol

Lol

Keep dreaming bud.

FSU lost the Center, 1st and 3rd string RB, and 2 WRs.

FSU should have the best OL in the country with 4 NFL picks returning (Erving, matius, and Jackson are top prospcects at their position), the guy who finished 2nd for the Mackey award at TE, the best player in college at QB, and 4 RBs with big time NfL futures.

Freeman was solid but not elite, Wilder was a solid big back, but lost reps to Karlos as the season progressed. Karlos William, Pender, and Cook are freaks. Ryan Green was the top APB 2 years ago on rivals, and can also play slot. FSU is loaded at RB.

Offense is loaded. Losing Benjamin hurts, but Travis Rudolph steps in right away as a Rashaad Greene clone, and Lane will get a chance for Benjamin's reps if he is ready.

Defense will be weaker at DT with Jernigan gone and some possible Med DQs pending.. At safety Tyler Hunter takes Brooks spot (Hunter was the starting safety last year until he got injured), Trey Marshall will take Joyners Nickel spot (already on Campus, similar player to Joyner, clocked at 4.36 at the Nike Sparq camp)

Losing Telvin, Christian Jones, and Joyner hurts, but they are being replaced by studs.

Matthew Thomas is up to 240 LBs and will step in for an inconsistent C. Jones as the Jack Linebacker that primarily rushes but can also cover WRs and TEs at an elite level. There are six 4 and 5 star LBs fighting for Telvins spot.

FSU runs primarily a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 depending on how the Jack lines up.

DE Mario Edwards can play the 5 in many situations. he and DT Eddie Goldman are future 1st round picks.

FSU loses leadership on defense and may be weaker at DT, but overall is a very strong team. You guys have to wait to next year to have a chance, that's when FSu could lose 80%+ of its starters.

Injuries at DT, WR, or losing a player like Mario Edwards or Winston could definetely even out the game but the talent level and coaching talent between both teams is still too big.

 

[LuCane]

Fsu is very beatable this year. They don't have near the weapons as last year on both sides. With telvin Smith, lamarcus Joyner gone and Freeman,and Benjamin gone they are very beatable. It sucks most of their stars came from our backyard.

they've been loading up for years. they lost like 8 or 9 to the NFL last year. didnt matter.

we wont beat FSU as long as F.A.G. is here. book it

Yeah they lost alot player on defense that year not offense. this year they lose both. the the talent drop off its way further then it was for 2012 team to 2013 team.

Lol

Lol

Keep dreaming bud.

FSU lost the Center, 1st and 3rd string RB, and 2 WRs.

FSU should have the best OL in the country with 4 NFL picks returning (Erving, matius, and Jackson are top prospcects at their position), the guy who finished 2nd for the Mackey award at TE, the best player in college at QB, and 4 RBs with big time NfL futures.

Freeman was solid but not elite, Wilder was a solid big back, but lost reps to Karlos as the season progressed. Karlos William, Pender, and Cook are freaks. Ryan Green was the top APB 2 years ago on rivals, and can also play slot. FSU is loaded at RB.

Offense is loaded. Losing Benjamin hurts, but Travis Rudolph steps in right away as a Rashaad Greene clone, and Lane will get a chance for Benjamin's reps if he is ready.

Defense will be weaker at DT with Jernigan gone and some possible Med DQs pending.. At safety Tyler Hunter takes Brooks spot (Hunter was the starting safety last year until he got injured), Trey Marshall will take Joyners Nickel spot (already on Campus, similar player to Joyner, clocked at 4.36 at the Nike Sparq camp)

Losing Telvin, Christian Jones, and Joyner hurts, but they are being replaced by studs.

Matthew Thomas is up to 240 LBs and will step in for an inconsistent C. Jones as the Jack Linebacker that primarily rushes but can also cover WRs and TEs at an elite level. There are six 4 and 5 star LBs fighting for Telvins spot.

FSU runs primarily a 3-3-5 or 4-2-5 depending on how the Jack lines up.

DE Mario Edwards can play the 5 in many situations. he and DT Eddie Goldman are future 1st round picks.

FSU loses leadership on defense and may be weaker at DT, but overall is a very strong team. You guys have to wait to next year to have a chance, that's when FSu could lose 80%+ of its starters.

Injuries at DT, WR, or losing a player like Mario Edwards or Winston could definetely even out the game but the talent level and coaching talent between both teams is still too big.

Thanks for the breakdown.

 

[Sacks]

People who always claim to be looking at things "realistically" are generally argumentative ****holes.

 

[losdogcane]

I remember back in 2000 people were talking the same ****! Oh how will we ever beat the defending national chumps with the best player in college football? Dumb *** Butch Davis was in over his head.

If you don't believe we will win that's your opinion, but calling out people because they do?
All you super smart guys should stay in the West and leave us simpletons over here on the football board.

 

[bobbydigius]

People who always claim to be looking at things "realistically" are generally argumentative ****holes.

Nah, I just dont get my hopes up, remain realistic, and then you dont see me melting down in October or November when that reality hits. Although I dont think anybody saw us getting blown out by Duke though.......

 

[bobbydigius]

I remember back in 2000 people were talking the same ****! Oh how will we ever beat the defending national chumps with the best player in college football? Dumb *** Butch Davis was in over his head.

If you don't believe we will win that's your opinion, but calling out people because they do?
All you super smart guys should stay in the West and leave us simpletons over here on the football board.

SO just for the record, you are comparing this team's talent level to 2000's? We at least won our bowl game in 99 and were a top 5 preseason team if I remember correctly.

 

[FG305]

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team

we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads.

So we're going to beat an unproven defending national champion based on players we haven't seen in pads? Lmao, stop.

If Winston declares for the draft, FSU will have 8 starters projected to be drafted on just their offense alone. 7 of them ranked in the top-5 at their position. Give it up- we're not there yet...

 

[LA'Cane818]

Are you even a Cane Fan?

This is the dumbest argument of all time.

Because I look at our situation realistically I must not be a fan.

Its not an argument, its a question because the dumb **** you say sometimes lead me to believe you hate the canes more then life itself.

What did he say that was dumb? The facts say that FSU has superior talent and coaching. That isn't disputable; therefore, it isn't dumb. FSU is 3-1 vs. Miami at Sun Life. In my opinion, Sun Life provides us very little to none home field advantage. No team is intimidated nor concern about that stadium. Again, what did he say that was dumb?

Whats Dumb is to declare a lost to an unproven FSU team, we have just as much talent as they do on both sides of the ball, this is not the Stephen Morris and Tyrone Cornelius show. we have play makers coming in that we have yet to see in pads. the scrubs have moved on and the talent got better. yeah we are 3-1 in Sun Life, but our talent has been less than Hurricane quality. for me to sit here and say, oh well, they have the better team and we will just lose is dumb as **** and that ****!ng loser mentality. now Jimbo is a great coach in my opinion and he does everything to get the job done. FSU has simply been FSU and us Canes have not played like Canes. We will beat FSU this year. FSU will have 3 losses this year.

You immediately discredit yourself when you thorw **** like this against the wall. They are the defending national champions with a Heisman winning rapist coming back. How are they unproven? It doesn't make you a better fan because you are blind and deaf to the rest of CFB, it makes you a blathering idiot. I hope we whoop those f.a.ggo.tz and traitorious south florida *** dumpsters as much as you do (maybe not, this current batch of Golden fluffers seem to think the good fight is all that matters) but we have a staff with absolutely ZERO history of winning anything of meaning and in fact have pumped out historically bad defenses while they've been here. Go home bro, you're drunk,