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If Cam Ward had that season this year and had Georgia on his jersey he wins going away. Miami hate is a real thing.

I knew he wouldn’t win, was hoping Jeanty would beat Hunter.
 
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Jayden was on a three loss LSU team that wasn’t even in the title hunt at mid season. Outside of interceptions and rushing yards, the difference wasn’t as great as you want to believe. That said, Daniels didn’t have to compete with compelling narratives…
He had 4 more passing TDs, 3 less ints and on top of that he ran for like 1200 yards 10TDs on the season.
 
He had 4 more passing TDs, 3 less ints and on top of that he ran for like 1200 yards 10TDs on the season.
Ooh, 4 more TDs and 3 fewer ints. Cam should sit down and be happy that anyone knows his name. Cam isn’t a runner and LSU basically used Daniels as a second tailback.
 
I wanted Cam to win. He had an epic year and rightfully won the Davey O’Brien. Jeantny had the best year by a RB in decades. The voters picked the media circus hero who didn’t even bring his mom to the ceremony. Like many American institutions, the H is just reflects whatever narrative the rulers want to push.
 
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the games are rigged wwe style. Even Oregon survived two games this year because of bad calls.
I wouldn't say they are rigged I think refs are just retarded asf at times, human error is human error. I cant believe that someone that touches the ball every play on offense and completely changed the trajectory of our program with a harder scheddy then CU did not win, not only that he had better numbers than past qbs that just recently won that same award. He did it against every team on the schedule, he cooked every squad even a "mighty SEC" team in UF who closed the season hot. "nah but they aren't the same team" bs talk while they are fielding the same exact team later in the year. Crazy to me, thats only to devalue what we did to them in week 1, thats all that is.
 
Ooh, 4 more TDs and 3 fewer ints. Cam should sit down and be happy that anyone knows his name. Cam isn’t a runner and LSU basically used Daniels as a second tailback.
Which is why Daniel’s won the Heisman.. dude had 5000 total yards 50TDs in 12 games. He was averaging like 400 yards 4TDs every week.
 
I wanted Cam to win. He had an epic year and rightfully won the Davey O’Brien. Jeantny had the best year by a RB in decades. The voters picked the media circus hero who didn’t even bring his mom to the ceremony. Like many American institutions, the H is just reflects whatever narrative the rulers want to push.

I wouldn't have had an issue with the RB, but you can't convince me that Gabriel was better or Hunter is a better player.
 
Jayden was on a three loss LSU team that wasn’t even in the title hunt at mid season. Outside of interceptions and rushing yards, the difference wasn’t as great as you want to believe. That said, Daniels didn’t have to compete with compelling narratives…

I wouldn't say they are rigged I think refs are just retarded asf at times, human error is human error. I cant believe that someone that touches the ball every play on offense and completely changed the trajectory of our program with a harder scheddy then CU did not win, not only that he had better numbers than past qbs that just recently won that same award. He did it against every team on the schedule, he cooked every squad even a "mighty SEC" team in UF who closed the season hot. "nah but they aren't the same team" bs talk while they are fielding the same exact team later in the year. Crazy to me, thats only to devalue what we did to them in week 1, thats all that is.
Hunter is on a 3 loss team that has a QB who's protected to go top 10.
 
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I wanted Cam to win. He had an epic year and rightfully won the Davey O’Brien. Jeantny had the best year by a RB in decades. The voters picked the media circus hero who didn’t even bring his mom to the ceremony. Like many American institutions, the H is just reflects whatever narrative the rulers want to push.
His mom was there and spoke at the end.. his dad wasn’t there.. his pops just got out of jail. He made the decision to stay home.
 
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Arguement for Jeanty is fair

Hunter is based on snap count and Deion calling plays to feature hunter and not to win football games.

Gabriel is a distant 4th.

Jeanty removed from Boise costs them several Ws. Same as Cam.

Hunter off Colorado and their record probably is the same plus or minus a game.

It’s that simple.
 
Go and talk to him if you ever get that chance. I think the confusion comes from the fact that cam practices HUMILITY. If you go and ask cam who he is, He’s going to say HIM.
That is the whole point that was being made. Cam shows humility in every aspect of interviews (we know he’s confident and knows his own capabilities), wouldn’t be surprised if he knew he wasn’t getting the trophy, but compared to him, the other kid has been showing the Heisman pose every ****ing opportunity he’s had. I wonder how much of that flying around to make plays, as successful as he was, was just based on the attention he was garnering. I’m sure the kid is a good person, you know him better than us it seems, but the optics for me no bueno. I don’t reward kids in my family for theatrics. Humor? Yes. Competition? Yes. Excelling at something? Yes. Show off? I take away the cookies..
 
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Go and talk to him if you ever get that chance. I think the confusion comes from the fact that cam practices HUMILITY. If you go and ask cam who he is, He’s going to say HIM.
I agree with you about Cam. It’s why he is so successful and why his teammates follow him. Not sure I feel that way about Hunter. He seems to have had a little Deion rub off on him….
 
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