It's OFFICIAL: We're at SLS FOREVER.

[DuffleBagYoda]

Greg who i hope not Schiano

 

[CaneFan79]

Good points by Cane Dynasty and TadFooteball, but I can cite some of my own sources in response:

- Higher game attendance in the MLS is balanced by the fact that they play less than half the number of games the NBA/NHL play (34 games). I have been to MLS games and the attendance fluctuates like other sports; if it is a rival (i.e. Timbers vs. Sounders) it is substantial, Columbus Crew vs. Houston Dynamo? Uh, not so much. I'm not the only one who feels the Miami MLS franchise will fail, take a look at this:

http://soccerlens.com/dont-believe-hype-beckhams-mls-team-destined-fail/128253/

As to my comment about UDub, I should qualify it with soccer not being the only reason. My point is that the state of Washington and the Seattle metro area in particular used to produce a good number of great football players. Sure, California has always been their main recruiting ground, but they had a core of Pacific Northwest talent. Now, the more "progressive" Seattle and Pacific Northwest areas are pushing football away for other sports:

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/opinionnw/2013/10/14/would-you-let-your-son-play-football/

Go ahead and look at the poll results: 60% think football is too dangerous or are not sure they would let their child play. Oh yes, they will watch it and be loud and boisterous, but it is sombody else's kid. Yes, Yes, the existence of President Phil Knight and the U of Nike (Oregon) has hurt a lot also, but the days of the UDub dominating are a lot farther off than UM's.

Demolish the stadium if Miami MLS fails? Again, this is 2020 I'm talking about and anything is possible, but think about non-sports events, everything from concerts to Papal visits; wouldn't Miami-Dade/City of Miami, with a permanent tenant like UM keeping the stadium up, leverage it for other $$$$ making events?

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Good stats. Of course the MLS plays less games than the NBA that's intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers.

Fact remains that the MLS is growing at astounding rates it will thrive in both Miami and Orlando.

Very family friendly atmosphere at the games will ensure that its small market teams can still turn profit. They market and merchandise very well and seek out only certain people to become owners. This isn't the same USA soccer market that it was even 15 years ago.

Wherever Beckham's stadium ends up it will be there for a long time.

 

[hoops156]

UCF and FIU have their own stadiums but we don't what a joke....here's to the next 18 yrs. of irrelevancy in SLS........we have the worst Administration in America

R.I.P. Orange Bowl

FIU's stadium sits like 10000.

land prices at Orlando can't compare to that in Coral Gables.

Ucf has a ton of room on their campus as we'll. it's not a small campus located in the middle of a wealthy neighborhood, whose residents hate the school.

 

[Cane7451]

UCF and FIU have their own stadiums but we don't what a joke....here's to the next 18 yrs. of irrelevancy in SLS........we have the worst Administration in America

R.I.P. Orange Bowl

Both those Public school's stadiums are build on land purchased by taxpayers. Miami is private and the City has already told UM they can't have public land. I knew that stupid underwear model Beckham was just using the Canes to help steal public land. Beckham never had any intentions of including UM from the start. Beckham and his investors were just gaming Canes fans for their support. They never presented any plans to the city with a 40K stadium that UM could use. Beckham never showed any stadium over 25K to the City because even 25K was too large which caused him to lose any chance at the Port over traffic and parking issues.

The only place UM has any shot to build their own stadium is at UM's South Campus near the Zoo. Then again it took UM over 10 years to raise $30M to build the BUC. Good luck funding a $400M stadium project with land cost when we have less than 7,000 people in the Hurricane Club and it only cost $50 to join. Then if Miami invests in their own stadium and fans still don't show up, UM is screwed which could bankrupt UM.

 

[Fightinibis]

The stadium issue has been around for 25+ years. The last 10 years at the OB proved that we are just fine with playing in a sub-standard stadium. As much as I loved the OB and it's character, they (collectively between City of Miami and UM) let that place go to crap. It became a safety hazard. I just don't see this stadium thing going anywhere any time soon. We simply have to make the best of it.

As for the "why don't we don't build the stadium with booster, etc." crowd, I would ask, who in the world is going to give $300-$400 million to build a stadium for 6-7 games per season, 40,000 fans per game? Just doesn't make business sense. Sure, you can use it for other things, but there are so many of those already in South Florida, just doesn't seem feasible.

Just FYI, as far as I know, there was no collectively...the City was responsible for the upkeep of the 'ole girl during the last lease term, and they intentionally breached for what are now obvious reasons.

UM

 

[hoops156]

UCF and FIU have their own stadiums but we don't what a joke....here's to the next 18 yrs. of irrelevancy in SLS........we have the worst Administration in America

R.I.P. Orange Bowl

Both those Public school's stadiums are build on land purchased by taxpayers. Miami is private and the City has already told UM they can't have public land. I knew that stupid underwear model Beckham was just using the Canes to help steal public land. Beckham never had any intentions of including UM from the start. Beckham and his investors were just gaming Canes fans for their support. They never presented any plans to the city with a 40K stadium that UM could use. Beckham never showed any stadium over 25K to the City because even 25K was too large which caused him to lose any chance at the Port over traffic and parking issues.

The only place UM has any shot to build their own stadium is at UM's South Campus near the Zoo. Then again it took UM over 10 years to raise $30M to build the BUC. Good luck funding a $400M stadium project with land cost when we have less than 7,000 people in the Hurricane Club and it only cost $50 to join. Then if Miami invests in their own stadium and fans still don't show up, UM is screwed which could bankrupt UM.

Too much logic. Can u imagine how angry ppl would be if they built a stadium on 152nd? It would still be about a 30 min drove from campus. Isn't there a dod building there also ud have to fight the zoo to even allow it.

 

[hoops156]

@mattyports: In speaking w/ #Canes officials, it's clear that no door is closed. Just don't expect it to happen, because it probably won't.

 

[hoops156]

@mattyports: My dog Charlie scouted Tropical Park for viability of a UM move. He found a bone, a cute Pomeranian and no chance of a stadium being built.

@mattyports: @bdubya4201 I'm no urban planner, but new exits off 874/826 wouldn't be enough. Have to re-do the whole area.

 

[Consigliere]

@mattyports: In speaking w/ #Canes officials, it's clear that no door is closed. Just don't expect it to happen, because it probably won't.

I feel like this is DIY football program.

No door is closed unless you want to approach UM and do the whole thing yourself. The school is not actively looking into anything so feel free to come to UM and broach the subject because they're content with the status quo.

18 years more of SLS, can you imagine the possibilities? Priorities.Net

 

[Consigliere]

@mattyports: My dog Charlie scouted Tropical Park for viability of a UM move. He found a bone, a cute Pomeranian and no chance of a stadium being built.

@mattyports: @bdubya4201 I'm no urban planner, but new exits off 874/826 wouldn't be enough. Have to re-do the whole area.

Because the process to get into and out of No Life Stadium is amazing.

 

[Canesfan1899]

UCF and FIU have their own stadiums but we don't what a joke....here's to the next 18 yrs. of irrelevancy in SLS........we have the worst Administration in America

R.I.P. Orange Bowl

FIU's stadium sits like 10000.

land prices at Orlando can't compare to that in Coral Gables.

Ucf has a ton of room on their campus as we'll. it's not a small campus located in the middle of a wealthy neighborhood, whose residents hate the school.

I want the ole girl back.

 

[rok]

It's called Son Life, not SLS.

 

[hoops156]

UCF and FIU have their own stadiums but we don't what a joke....here's to the next 18 yrs. of irrelevancy in SLS........we have the worst Administration in America

R.I.P. Orange Bowl

FIU's stadium sits like 10000.

land prices at Orlando can't compare to that in Coral Gables.

Ucf has a ton of room on their campus as we'll. it's not a small campus located in the middle of a wealthy neighborhood, whose residents hate the school.

I want the ole girl back.

its a baseball stadium. blame the city of miami for it.

 

[Canesfan1899]

UCF and FIU have their own stadiums but we don't what a joke....here's to the next 18 yrs. of irrelevancy in SLS........we have the worst Administration in America

R.I.P. Orange Bowl

FIU's stadium sits like 10000.

land prices at Orlando can't compare to that in Coral Gables.

Ucf has a ton of room on their campus as we'll. it's not a small campus located in the middle of a wealthy neighborhood, whose residents hate the school.

I want the ole girl back.

its a baseball stadium. blame the city of miami for it.

It's a **** shame.

 

[Real Talk]

Well in 2017 our current non conference games are at Arkansas St and home vs Toledo. In 2018 we are at Toledo AND at Rutgers.
So I don't see a way we play a non-home game in 2018 out of conference. If 3/4 non-conference games were on the road, that would be really bad because it would mean only 5 home games! In other words, unless the Rutgers game in 2018 turns into a home game, and the one in 2019 is away, there is no way we play LSU in Texas.
So lets hope we accept the invitation to play Alabama in 2017 as that would really be a great game to play, and is our only real option.

As for the stadium situation, I think 40k seats isn't big enough for us anyway. I think we need a 60k seat stadium and preferably on campus ( I guess next to Mahoney-Pearson), but the next best location has to be Tropical Park, which has enough space. The thing is, a stadium on campus makes more sense financially because we already own most of the land it would require, and you could use it for classrooms/whatever else could go in it.

We are actually traveling to arlkansas st?

 

[MDOcane]

Well in 2017 our current non conference games are at Arkansas St and home vs Toledo. In 2018 we are at Toledo AND at Rutgers.
So I don't see a way we play a non-home game in 2018 out of conference. If 3/4 non-conference games were on the road, that would be really bad because it would mean only 5 home games! In other words, unless the Rutgers game in 2018 turns into a home game, and the one in 2019 is away, there is no way we play LSU in Texas.
So lets hope we accept the invitation to play Alabama in 2017 as that would really be a great game to play, and is our only real option.

As for the stadium situation, I think 40k seats isn't big enough for us anyway. I think we need a 60k seat stadium and preferably on campus ( I guess next to Mahoney-Pearson), but the next best location has to be Tropical Park, which has enough space. The thing is, a stadium on campus makes more sense financially because we already own most of the land it would require, and you could use it for classrooms/whatever else could go in it.

We are actually traveling to arlkansas st?

yea its part of our home & home where they play here this year and we play there in 2017

 

[TheCaneShow]

All of you guys have such strong opinions about Miami and their stadium situation yet I don't see anyone here running to the Athletic Department and cutting a check for a couple million dollars.

Face it, we don't have the boosters or the resources to build a new stadium. Never have, probably never will.

And before Consigliere gets his panties in a bunch, please remember that educational fundraising doesn't mean athletic fundraising. Never has, never will. No one is donating to build Miami a football stadium.

Imagine if every athlete we put in the pro's just gave a little back financially, probably could have something there. But that again, never happens, never will. The biggest donations we've got were from a guy who never even enrolled here and a guy who never played in the NFL. How does that even work?

 

[Tad Footeball]

All of you guys have such strong opinions about Miami and their stadium situation yet I don't see anyone here running to the Athletic Department and cutting a check for a couple million dollars.

Face it, we don't have the boosters or the resources to build a new stadium. Never have, probably never will.

And before Consigliere gets his panties in a bunch, please remember that educational fundraising doesn't mean athletic fundraising. Never has, never will. No one is donating to build Miami a football stadium.

Imagine if every athlete we put in the pro's just gave a little back financially, probably could have something there. But that again, never happens, never will. The biggest donations we've got were from a guy who never even enrolled here and a guy who never played in the NFL. How does that even work?

You're mostly correct here aside from the awkward wording of saying "we don't have...the resources". You meant to say "the resources will never be allocated". People soooooo often confuse self imposed budgetary restraints upon the athletic department BY the school as an actual lack of overall resource availability. If only we did as good a job at convincing people of our poverty as we did in soliciting donations earmarked specifically for athletics. You're right though in that we need more athlete alumni like Edge and Vilma willing to drop an equivalent amount of major $'s at Hecht as they do at K.O.D.

 

[Angry Ibis]

@mattyports: My dog Charlie scouted Tropical Park for viability of a UM move. He found a bone, a cute Pomeranian and no chance of a stadium being built.

@mattyports: @bdubya4201 I'm no urban planner, but new exits off 874/826 wouldn't be enough. Have to re-do the whole area.

I see his stand up is as bad as his sports reporting.