Is Perryman going pro?

I really can't understand why any kid would waste another year in this scheme. Go to the pros, get some real coaching and get paid doing it. With the new rookie pay scale, there is less reason to wait to increase your draft stock.

I wonder if some of you are really canes fans or if you're gator fans in disguise. So it's not a good idea to finish school, improve your skills , and go higher in the draft? SMH.

The NFL isn't going to pay you millions of dollars to learn on the job, genius. You either contribute or you get cut , with no degree to fall back on. Leaving early is a big gamble. Yeah you could end up like Olivier Vernon who picked it up and looks like he'll be successful in the league. Or you could be like Marcus forston and get cut right after training camp.

Lots of people have kids in college. Lots of football players did it when I went to school there. Yeah it's hard but you get help.

So you would rather a man rely on others to feed his child so that your team doesn't suffer. Good to know you would rather see a child suffer than your team.

I love this team, but I care more about the players that risk their bodies playing for it. The NFL draft has changed with the new rookie pay scale. The difference between a second round pick and a third round pick in pay is minor, there is no longer much point in returning to increase your draft stock. Financially, it's a better move to get in the league sooner so you have more potential earning years and you get to that second contact quicker.

There is also the risk of injury. What if he blows out his knee next season? Wouldn't it better to do that on an NFL contact than a college scholarship? How would he provide for his kids then?
 
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He had an average year. He'd be crazy to go pro. You can try to blame the "scheme" all you want but great players stand out in virtually any scheme and I dont think he did enough to warrant leaving early.
They both need each other.
And SMH and him having a kid.

Yeah you're right, 1st Team All ACC = average. I guess as long as you have a pulse and are on the field majority of the time you should be All-ACC right? WTF man? Seriously???

Also, I don't understand you last statement. You judging him because he had a kid while in college? Ridiculous.
 
He had an average year. He'd be crazy to go pro. You can try to blame the "scheme" all you want but great players stand out in virtually any scheme and I dont think he did enough to warrant leaving early.
They both need each other.
And SMH and him having a kid.

Yeah you're right, 1st Team All ACC = average. I guess as long as you have a pulse and are on the field majority of the time you should be All-ACC right? WTF man? Seriously???

Also, I don't understand you last statement. You judging him because he had a kid while in college? Ridiculous.

Exactly, who the **** are you to judge him 4canes?
 
He's as good as gone. He's not going to greatly improve his stock especially not playing in this scheme. The highest he could go is probably the 2nd round but his height is holing him back. He has no reason to stay when his stock is pretty much as high as it can get.
 
Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.
 
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Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.

The only guys that could help Spence's production on that team were the D-linemen. It makes no difference who plays in the secondary and at LB next to him. If you're a baller, you're a baller, regardless of who's playing next to you or behind you. Spence made more plays in one year than Perryman has made in his whole career thus far. Spence was a TFL machine and the kid knew where the ball was going before it was snapped. Kid was a field general and sniffed out screens like nobody's business.
 
Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.

The only guys that could help Spence's production on that team were the D-linemen. It makes no difference who plays in the secondary and at LB next to him. If you're a baller, you're a baller, regardless of who's playing next to you or behind you. Spence made more plays in one year than Perryman has made in his whole career thus far. Spence was a TFL machine and the kid knew where the ball was going before it was snapped. Kid was a field general and sniffed out screens like nobody's business.

You know more about defense than I do, but I disagree to a point. When you have no talent around you, you might press and tend to try and do too much and make every play, knowing you are the last and only line of defense. When I played in high school, we had a good defense, but it was mostly because of one LB, our all state LB who led the county in tackles. He knew if he wasn't making the tackle, chances are, no one was, and he either made a spectacular play, or took himself completely out of plays, going for fakes and stuff, knowing or thinking he had to do everything. Also, I think having 2 NFL LBs next to you can either give you more confidence and make the unit overall play better, or keep your stats down, which would help a guy like Perryman's stats.
 
I don't see him going much higher next year than 3rd round, so, if that's where he is projected, he should go.
 
Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.

The only guys that could help Spence's production on that team were the D-linemen. It makes no difference who plays in the secondary and at LB next to him. If you're a baller, you're a baller, regardless of who's playing next to you or behind you. Spence made more plays in one year than Perryman has made in his whole career thus far. Spence was a TFL machine and the kid knew where the ball was going before it was snapped. Kid was a field general and sniffed out screens like nobody's business.

You know more about defense than I do, but I disagree to a point. When you have no talent around you, you might press and tend to try and do too much and make every play, knowing you are the last and only line of defense. When I played in high school, we had a good defense, but it was mostly because of one LB, our all state LB who led the county in tackles. He knew if he wasn't making the tackle, chances are, no one was, and he either made a spectacular play, or took himself completely out of plays, going for fakes and stuff, knowing or thinking he had to do everything. Also, I think having 2 NFL LBs next to you can either give you more confidence and make the unit overall play better, or keep your stats down, which would help a guy like Perryman's stats.

So the LB you played with made all-state despite being surrounded by average players?

Exactly my point. LOL

Yeah, he might've tried too hard at times but ultimately he balled out, made a bunch of plays and made all-state.

It's harder to make plays when you're surrounded by other play-makers and you have to share the shine.
 
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He has 5 ex-teammates as examples of why he should stay: the 2011 guys would have tripled their money staying at UM

That's not really accurate. Olivier Vernon would have had to have gone in the top 18 picks to triple his money. And he's probably the only one of those kids that could actually come close.

miller and vernons are on the fence becuase I believe that they coulda played themselves into the 1-2 round, but mainly, I think Streeter, Bwash, Fortson could of played their way into 2-4th rounds which would: guarantee more money, and incentivise the team that drafrted you into giving more opportunities, plus the development that 1 more year of a lot of PT woulda provided
 
Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.

wow Shannon had all that talent and we still did not win the coastal....****

:cigar:
 
He had an average year. He'd be crazy to go pro. You can try to blame the "scheme" all you want but great players stand out in virtually any scheme and I dont think he did enough to warrant leaving early.
They both need each other.
And SMH and him having a kid.

Yeah you're right, 1st Team All ACC = average. I guess as long as you have a pulse and are on the field majority of the time you should be All-ACC right? WTF man? Seriously???

Also, I don't understand you last statement. You judging him because he had a kid while in college? Ridiculous.

Average means he wasn't a difference maker, he was solid not spectacular.
And yes, I'm judging him on having a kid while in college, I would like to think at some point these guys get smarter, but that's obviously not the case.
 
Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.

wow Shannon had all that talent and we still did not win the coastal....****

:cigar:

year 3 of golden...no coastal bro.

keep on smoking....

wont win the coastal next yr eiher with a better vt on the way...and Duke's Cutcliffe owning us....as long as we have his bff running the show on d
 
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Laugh at their production here, but Spence also played next to two NFL LBs in Sharpton and McCarthy, as well as other NFL players like Harris, Vernon, DVD, Bailey, Shields, Armstrong, etc. Not sure if that makes Spence's numbers more impressive or less.

The only guys that could help Spence's production on that team were the D-linemen. It makes no difference who plays in the secondary and at LB next to him. If you're a baller, you're a baller, regardless of who's playing next to you or behind you. Spence made more plays in one year than Perryman has made in his whole career thus far. Spence was a TFL machine and the kid knew where the ball was going before it was snapped. Kid was a field general and sniffed out screens like nobody's business.

You know more about defense than I do, but I disagree to a point. When you have no talent around you, you might press and tend to try and do too much and make every play, knowing you are the last and only line of defense. When I played in high school, we had a good defense, but it was mostly because of one LB, our all state LB who led the county in tackles. He knew if he wasn't making the tackle, chances are, no one was, and he either made a spectacular play, or took himself completely out of plays, going for fakes and stuff, knowing or thinking he had to do everything. Also, I think having 2 NFL LBs next to you can either give you more confidence and make the unit overall play better, or keep your stats down, which would help a guy like Perryman's stats.

So the LB you played with made all-state despite being surrounded by average players?

Exactly my point. LOL

Yeah, he might've tried too hard at times but ultimately he balled out, made a bunch of plays and made all-state.

It's harder to make plays when you're surrounded by other play-makers and you have to share the shine.

He made all-state because he had like 190 tackles. He wouldn't have had 190 tackles with 2 other LBs next to him that were as good as him, but he still would have been the same quality of player. He wouldn't have put up eye popping stats though. Not really sure what we're arguing here though.
 
he should go. why play here for another year and play for free? will he dramatically increase his value? probably not.
 
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If there's a question at this point in the season you'll be correct far more often than not by saying the player will bolt. I like the odds on my side. Perryman is gone.

As others have pointed out, with height limitations he's not a candidate to move into the first round or high second round, even if he miraculously had a Heisman whispered season. Everything would have to break perfectly to move into late second round, and even that is a longshot. If he receives a 3rd or 4th round indication it makes sense to leave.

Some of the emphatic tackles late in the season seem to be trying to make a statement on tape, even if many of those tackles are downfield.
 
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