IMG vs Carol City

[Andrew]

I know some people are still a little salty about IMG recruiting tactics but they will go to GA next week and beat Grayson. IMG's defense will only get better ask Dingle about #10. Did you see that stick?

And two things:

This is the new era of HS football so you may as well get use to it. STA and the like have been doing it for years and all IMG has done is taken it to another level by recruiting across the country. Even inner city schools do it by recruiting kids from each other.


Most power houses are upset because they usually are the only school in the entire county or city. Like ASTCLOUD 11 said, it use to be your hood school against my hood school. But hood schools have two major problems zoning - kids being bused out of the community across town and then you have kids dropping out before HS. Both of these issues rarely affect power house schools because they usually have a feeder system that keeps the schools loaded with talent consistently year after year. The schools that benefited from this advantage didn't say a word until now because small hood schools could never come into their communities and still their kids, if they tried then they would use the zone rules to fight it. Schools like IMG have found a loophole to go into these areas and compete with them for their kids. So now they are fighting the same fight that hood schools faced but the only difference is state HS commissions are making up additional rules on the fly to keep their kids home.

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

 

[Ropa]

I know some people are still a little salty about IMG recruiting tactics but they will go to GA next week and beat Grayson. IMG's defense will only get better ask Dingle about #10. Did you see that stick?

And two things:

This is the new era of HS football so you may as well get use to it. STA and the like have been doing it for years and all IMG has done is taken it to another level by recruiting across the country. Even inner city schools do it by recruiting kids from each other.


Most power houses are upset because they usually are the only school in the entire county or city. Like ASTCLOUD 11 said, it use to be your hood school against my hood school. But hood schools have two major problems zoning - kids being bused out of the community across town and then you have kids dropping out before HS. Both of these issues rarely affect power house schools because they usually have a feeder system that keeps the schools loaded with talent consistently year after year. The schools that benefited from this advantage didn't say a word until now because small hood schools could never come into their communities and still their kids, if they tried then they would use the zone rules to fight it. Schools like IMG have found a loophole to go into these areas and compete with them for their kids. So now they are fighting the same fight that hood schools faced but the only difference is state HS commissions are making up additional rules on the fly to keep their kids home.

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect... It would be like the GA vs FL All Star games back in the day.

 

[Andrew]

I know some people are still a little salty about IMG recruiting tactics but they will go to GA next week and beat Grayson. IMG's defense will only get better ask Dingle about #10. Did you see that stick?

And two things:

This is the new era of HS football so you may as well get use to it. STA and the like have been doing it for years and all IMG has done is taken it to another level by recruiting across the country. Even inner city schools do it by recruiting kids from each other.


Most power houses are upset because they usually are the only school in the entire county or city. Like ASTCLOUD 11 said, it use to be your hood school against my hood school. But hood schools have two major problems zoning - kids being bused out of the community across town and then you have kids dropping out before HS. Both of these issues rarely affect power house schools because they usually have a feeder system that keeps the schools loaded with talent consistently year after year. The schools that benefited from this advantage didn't say a word until now because small hood schools could never come into their communities and still their kids, if they tried then they would use the zone rules to fight it. Schools like IMG have found a loophole to go into these areas and compete with them for their kids. So now they are fighting the same fight that hood schools faced but the only difference is state HS commissions are making up additional rules on the fly to keep their kids home.

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect...

They don't in GA. Gwinnett County has Grayson, Buford, Norcross, Archer, Mill Creek and Peachtree Ridge are all pretty solid schools. Schools like Colquitt County are at a disadvantage because they have no feeder schools around them unlike schools in south florida. Colquitt might be American Heritage next week, but they will need to play better than they did in their loss to Mill Creek.

 

[Ropa]

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect...

They don't in GA. Gwinnett County has Grayson, Buford, Norcross, Archer, Mill Creek and Peachtree Ridge are all pretty solid schools. Schools like Colquitt County are at a disadvantage because they have no feeder schools around them unlike schools in south florida. Colquitt might be American Heritage next week, but they will need to play better than they did in their loss to Mill Creek.

Grayson, Norcross and Buford are city schools I'm not sure about the rest but most of the kids in those cities attend those city schools. Colquitt has the entire county that is the feeder system, the population will always produce the next generation. It can easily absorb the casualties of drop outs and other issues that inner city schools have a harder time absorbing.

 

[LexCane55]

Why???

So the can stop taking kids from their state...How would you feel if you devoted your time and effort into helping the development of a kid in one of the most crucial phases of their Football career, just to have another coach come and wave money in his face and take him away. Now the guy who was supposed to be a team captain this year is gone and everyone that looked up to him is de-motivated. It also takes talent out of the community and makes it harder for those teams to win with the people in their backyard, which is usually what makes high school football enjoyable...seeing my hood play against yours, or my hood play against Atlanta Georgia's hood. Not "who can I get" vs "who you can get". I hate the idea of super teams because it ruins the diversity in sports. Teams like STA isn't helping either.

St Thomas and IMG would not be able to do what they do in GA. Milton had the number one basketball team in the country in 2011 because they recruited and the GHSA put them on probation.

Milton High boys? basketball program placed on probation - CBS46 News

What these teams in Florida are doing is bad for high school football and shows the like of ability of the FHSA to manage its member schools.

Either way Grayson is going to beat IMG next week and Deerfield Beach later in the season. Colquitt County is going to play American Heritage pretty close but they lost a lot of players from last season's state championship team.

Sorry but not going to be able to sell me on a system to protect adults and not kids.

Kids should be able to play football wherever they want. MNW, Central, and BTW have all had national teams in the last 10 years despite being "hood schools". Actually what IMG does is cleaner than STA. At least they arent competing for other "regular schools for state titles.

If a kid has a chance to better himself I dont think there should be rules to stop it.

I do not really follow Georgia but my guess is football schools in Florida just do it better. Wheeler HS just recruited two nationally ranked kids from other states. Seems Georgia is recruiting. Pebblebrook recruits like crazy as well.

It doesn't better the kid to transfer to schools like IMG or STA. If anything it gives him an ego that becomes an issue in college. Both Wheeler and Pebblebrook are public schools so I am not sure what they have to offer by having a recruit move to their district. Neither one of these schools is very good. Pebblebrook got wrecked in their scrimmage a week ago, they couldn't move the ball. I don't have issues with a kid moving to better themselves or if a parent wants to better their kids. The issue is when a private school offeres scholarships for these kids to play football. It isn't like they are offering the 3rd string center for Coral Park or top academic kids for BTW, MNW, etc. They are offering kids because of their football skill.

Wheeler and Pebblebrook were basketball references

Recruiting is recruiting. Public school recruiting ok? But private School recruiting is bad??

So only the kids being recruited to private schools develop egos???


Cause I am sure the college recruiting process does nothing to have kids feel entitled?? Its all the HS recruiting?

 

[Andrew]

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect...

They don't in GA. Gwinnett County has Grayson, Buford, Norcross, Archer, Mill Creek and Peachtree Ridge are all pretty solid schools. Schools like Colquitt County are at a disadvantage because they have no feeder schools around them unlike schools in south florida. Colquitt might be American Heritage next week, but they will need to play better than they did in their loss to Mill Creek.

Grayson, Norcross and Buford are city schools I'm not sure about the rest but most of the kids in those cities attend those city schools. Colquitt has the entire county that is the feeder system, the population will always produce the next generation. It can easily absorb the casualties of drop outs and other issues that inner city schools have a harder time absorbing.

Grayson is a county school, but all of those schools are in the same county, so whether they are city or county schools is a moot point. I live in Powder Springs and have 3 high schools within 5 minutes of my house (McEachern, Hillgrove and East Paulding). Those schools can get athletes much easier than schools like Colquitt who have no school near by they can get players from. Schools in GA don't have near as many transfers as schools in Florida with the same density of schools.

 

[Andrew]

So the can stop taking kids from their state...How would you feel if you devoted your time and effort into helping the development of a kid in one of the most crucial phases of their Football career, just to have another coach come and wave money in his face and take him away. Now the guy who was supposed to be a team captain this year is gone and everyone that looked up to him is de-motivated. It also takes talent out of the community and makes it harder for those teams to win with the people in their backyard, which is usually what makes high school football enjoyable...seeing my hood play against yours, or my hood play against Atlanta Georgia's hood. Not "who can I get" vs "who you can get". I hate the idea of super teams because it ruins the diversity in sports. Teams like STA isn't helping either.

St Thomas and IMG would not be able to do what they do in GA. Milton had the number one basketball team in the country in 2011 because they recruited and the GHSA put them on probation.

Milton High boys? basketball program placed on probation - CBS46 News

What these teams in Florida are doing is bad for high school football and shows the like of ability of the FHSA to manage its member schools.

Either way Grayson is going to beat IMG next week and Deerfield Beach later in the season. Colquitt County is going to play American Heritage pretty close but they lost a lot of players from last season's state championship team.

Sorry but not going to be able to sell me on a system to protect adults and not kids.

Kids should be able to play football wherever they want. MNW, Central, and BTW have all had national teams in the last 10 years despite being "hood schools". Actually what IMG does is cleaner than STA. At least they arent competing for other "regular schools for state titles.

If a kid has a chance to better himself I dont think there should be rules to stop it.

I do not really follow Georgia but my guess is football schools in Florida just do it better. Wheeler HS just recruited two nationally ranked kids from other states. Seems Georgia is recruiting. Pebblebrook recruits like crazy as well.

It doesn't better the kid to transfer to schools like IMG or STA. If anything it gives him an ego that becomes an issue in college. Both Wheeler and Pebblebrook are public schools so I am not sure what they have to offer by having a recruit move to their district. Neither one of these schools is very good. Pebblebrook got wrecked in their scrimmage a week ago, they couldn't move the ball. I don't have issues with a kid moving to better themselves or if a parent wants to better their kids. The issue is when a private school offeres scholarships for these kids to play football. It isn't like they are offering the 3rd string center for Coral Park or top academic kids for BTW, MNW, etc. They are offering kids because of their football skill.

Wheeler and Pebblebrook were basketball references

Recruiting is recruiting. Public school recruiting ok? But private School recruiting is bad??

So only the kids being recruited to private schools develop egos???


Cause I am sure the college recruiting process does nothing to have kids feel entitled?? Its all the HS recruiting?

No, like I mentioned when Milton recruited they got probation. Pebblebrook and Wheeler aren't offering all living expenses paid for. Private schools offer scholarships to poor athletes with terrible grades so they can charge rich kids who want to be good athletes big money to attend. I have no issue with these schools offering less fortune students need based scholarships but it should be based off of their work in the class room and not the football field. These families are essentially getting paid to have their child go to these schools which isn't right at the high school level. The egos start earlier, you know have 10th graders talking about the NFL and setting goals of leaving college after 3 years.

 

[Andrew]

2 answers:

1. The difference between Miami Central and IMG is the deciding factor of that game (Sept-2012). Central could not match the size and line play of Grayson because GA HS lines on both sides of the ball in Gwinnett county 6A are known to be some of the best in the country. You can have all of the skill guys you want but if you can't control the trenches it's the wrap. However, IMG can match any 6A school in GA or across the country on line play both sides of the ball. This will be a good match up for sure.

2. The NCAA has its own problems to worry about with colleges and universities getting together to form super conferences. They are doing it to get away from NCAA rules to have their own playoff system and marketing rights. With state legislation's already in play to privatize public schools the IMG's and STA's will only increase in number. Every 5A, 6A, 7A, and 8A school wants to play the best. The genie is out and it's too late to turn back.

I am not saying IMG is not worthy. They very well might when the game, but I also don't think the deciding factor is 1 game between BTW and Norcross, while ignoring every other game. There is no doubt Florida has more solid programs than GA, but they should due to having a lot more people and the lose transfer rules.

The NCAA will listen to what SEC coaches say and if Kirby Smart and Nick Saban get pressure from high school coaches they will push for a change. I can guarantee you Kirby Smart would rather have a kid stay in Gwinnett County than Bradenton, FL.

 

[TallyCane]

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect...

They don't in GA. Gwinnett County has Grayson, Buford, Norcross, Archer, Mill Creek and Peachtree Ridge are all pretty solid schools. Schools like Colquitt County are at a disadvantage because they have no feeder schools around them unlike schools in south florida. Colquitt might be American Heritage next week, but they will need to play better than they did in their loss to Mill Creek.

Colquitt recruits.

 

[Redmen7805]

I know some people are still a little salty about IMG recruiting tactics but they will go to GA next week and beat Grayson. IMG's defense will only get better ask Dingle about #10. Did you see that stick?

And two things:

This is the new era of HS football so you may as well get use to it. STA and the like have been doing it for years and all IMG has done is taken it to another level by recruiting across the country. Even inner city schools do it by recruiting kids from each other.


Most power houses are upset because they usually are the only school in the entire county or city. Like ASTCLOUD 11 said, it use to be your hood school against my hood school. But hood schools have two major problems zoning - kids being bused out of the community across town and then you have kids dropping out before HS. Both of these issues rarely affect power house schools because they usually have a feeder system that keeps the schools loaded with talent consistently year after year. The schools that benefited from this advantage didn't say a word until now because small hood schools could never come into their communities and still their kids, if they tried then they would use the zone rules to fight it. Schools like IMG have found a loophole to go into these areas and compete with them for their kids. So now they are fighting the same fight that hood schools faced but the only difference is state HS commissions are making up additional rules on the fly to keep their kids home.

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

Based on your repsonse I will take it that they are not as good as the BTW team that beat Norcross.

I have lived in many places (Miami, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, NorCal and Columbus) and that BTW team is the best high school team that I have seen. I am not incuding private academies that heavily recruit.

That is why I asked you how this current Grayson team compares to BTW.

BTW, I am more of a Atlanta guy (NW Marietta to be precise) than a Miami guy.

 

[Ropa]

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect...

They don't in GA. Gwinnett County has Grayson, Buford, Norcross, Archer, Mill Creek and Peachtree Ridge are all pretty solid schools. Schools like Colquitt County are at a disadvantage because they have no feeder schools around them unlike schools in south florida. Colquitt might be American Heritage next week, but they will need to play better than they did in their loss to Mill Creek.

Grayson, Norcross and Buford are city schools I'm not sure about the rest but most of the kids in those cities attend those city schools. Colquitt has the entire county that is the feeder system, the population will always produce the next generation. It can easily absorb the casualties of drop outs and other issues that inner city schools have a harder time absorbing.

Grayson is a county school, but all of those schools are in the same county, so whether they are city or county schools is a moot point. I live in Powder Springs and have 3 high schools within 5 minutes of my house (McEachern, Hillgrove and East Paulding). Those schools can get athletes much easier than schools like Colquitt who have no school near by they can get players from. Schools in GA don't have near as many transfers as schools in Florida with the same density of schools.

Here is what you are not telling Grayson pulls kids from Walton Co, Grayson GA, southeastern Gwinnett Co, Lawrenceville GA and Loganville GA... How is this allowed? How can a public school be allowed to pull kids from multiple cities and counties? That's the feeder system right there. They have over 2,800 students. They are just as bad as IMG and STA. Meanwhile, the GA HS commissioners haven't said a word about this. But yet they point their fingers at FL so called loose transfer rules. lol

One thing about it our hood schools represent like the U back in the day "Anybody, Anywhere, Anytime!"

 

[LexCane55]

St Thomas and IMG would not be able to do what they do in GA. Milton had the number one basketball team in the country in 2011 because they recruited and the GHSA put them on probation.

Milton High boys? basketball program placed on probation - CBS46 News

What these teams in Florida are doing is bad for high school football and shows the like of ability of the FHSA to manage its member schools.

Either way Grayson is going to beat IMG next week and Deerfield Beach later in the season. Colquitt County is going to play American Heritage pretty close but they lost a lot of players from last season's state championship team.

Sorry but not going to be able to sell me on a system to protect adults and not kids.

Kids should be able to play football wherever they want. MNW, Central, and BTW have all had national teams in the last 10 years despite being "hood schools". Actually what IMG does is cleaner than STA. At least they arent competing for other "regular schools for state titles.

If a kid has a chance to better himself I dont think there should be rules to stop it.

I do not really follow Georgia but my guess is football schools in Florida just do it better. Wheeler HS just recruited two nationally ranked kids from other states. Seems Georgia is recruiting. Pebblebrook recruits like crazy as well.

It doesn't better the kid to transfer to schools like IMG or STA. If anything it gives him an ego that becomes an issue in college. Both Wheeler and Pebblebrook are public schools so I am not sure what they have to offer by having a recruit move to their district. Neither one of these schools is very good. Pebblebrook got wrecked in their scrimmage a week ago, they couldn't move the ball. I don't have issues with a kid moving to better themselves or if a parent wants to better their kids. The issue is when a private school offeres scholarships for these kids to play football. It isn't like they are offering the 3rd string center for Coral Park or top academic kids for BTW, MNW, etc. They are offering kids because of their football skill.

Wheeler and Pebblebrook were basketball references

Recruiting is recruiting. Public school recruiting ok? But private School recruiting is bad??

So only the kids being recruited to private schools develop egos???


Cause I am sure the college recruiting process does nothing to have kids feel entitled?? Its all the HS recruiting?

No, like I mentioned when Milton recruited they got probation. Pebblebrook and Wheeler aren't offering all living expenses paid for. Private schools offer scholarships to poor athletes with terrible grades so they can charge rich kids who want to be good athletes big money to attend. I have no issue with these schools offering less fortune students need based scholarships but it should be based off of their work in the class room and not the football field. These families are essentially getting paid to have their child go to these schools which isn't right at the high school level. The egos start earlier, you know have 10th graders talking about the NFL and setting goals of leaving college after 3 years.

Thats more of an issue at IMG as far as living expenses. IMG is like a Montverde

But again your argument of kids egos. Recruited to a private school or recruited to a public school I dont see a difference in changing their mentality

 

[gogeta4]

Either way arguing this is a moot point. Lived in at seen some of their best play....No comparison to south fla football.
You can tout this Grayson over central win till the cows come home....At any given time there are 4-5 s.fla teams that can beat that team.

 

[Andrew]

Either way arguing this is a moot point. Lived in at seen some of their best play....No comparison to south fla football.
You can tout this Grayson over central win till the cows come home....At any given time there are 4-5 s.fla teams that can beat that team.

Central won the state championship that area so that year there was not. Just like BTW beat Norcross and Northside beat BTW.

 

[Andrew]

The laws of averages says that any team can win one every now and then. And when you have an entire city to yourself you should win most of them. You guys better thank God every kid in SFL can't attend one school. Can you imagine an all Dade, Broward, Manatee, Pinellas, Hillsborough, Palm Beach ect...

They don't in GA. Gwinnett County has Grayson, Buford, Norcross, Archer, Mill Creek and Peachtree Ridge are all pretty solid schools. Schools like Colquitt County are at a disadvantage because they have no feeder schools around them unlike schools in south florida. Colquitt might be American Heritage next week, but they will need to play better than they did in their loss to Mill Creek.

Grayson, Norcross and Buford are city schools I'm not sure about the rest but most of the kids in those cities attend those city schools. Colquitt has the entire county that is the feeder system, the population will always produce the next generation. It can easily absorb the casualties of drop outs and other issues that inner city schools have a harder time absorbing.

Grayson is a county school, but all of those schools are in the same county, so whether they are city or county schools is a moot point. I live in Powder Springs and have 3 high schools within 5 minutes of my house (McEachern, Hillgrove and East Paulding). Those schools can get athletes much easier than schools like Colquitt who have no school near by they can get players from. Schools in GA don't have near as many transfers as schools in Florida with the same density of schools.

Here is what you are not telling Grayson pulls kids from Walton Co, Grayson GA, southeastern Gwinnett Co, Lawrenceville GA and Loganville GA... How is this allowed? How can a public school be allowed to pull kids from multiple cities and counties? That's the feeder system right there. They have over 2,800 students. They are just as bad as IMG and STA. Meanwhile, the GA HS commissioners haven't said a word about this. But yet they point their fingers at FL so called loose transfer rules. lol

One thing about it our hood schools represent like the U back in the day "Anybody, Anywhere, Anytime!"

They have lost to various teams in Gwinnett County over the last 4 years, since winning the state championship. In 2011 when they won the state championship they beat Walton so I think they are doing fine. Buford has won almost 10 state championships in AA and AAA over the last 15 years I think they are fine. Archer and Mill Creek which are both Gwinnett County schools have been better than Grayson. Even the year Grayson beat Miami Central who was the state champion in Florida, Grayson lost in the 2nd round. The biggest difference between the 2 states is high schools teams in GA typically don't maintain prominence over a long period of time. The one exception to this is Buford and they have always played smaller schools. So sure a school distinct with 120,000 students has some that transfer but this isn't STA or IMG having over 20 kids from out of state. Heck IMG got 4 kids from Gwinnett county this last year which is more than Grayson got from other schools.

Get out with the your hood school will play anyone. Why didn't they schedule Colquitt the last 3 years when they were loaded? Why was AH playing schools like Stephenson. Every good team says they will play anyone, anywhere, they just rarely do it. Even Colquitt said they would play anyone anywhere. Battle for No. 1 could come down to postseason bowl game on ESPNU | | USA Today High School Sports

 

[Andrew]

I know some people are still a little salty about IMG recruiting tactics but they will go to GA next week and beat Grayson. IMG's defense will only get better ask Dingle about #10. Did you see that stick?

And two things:

This is the new era of HS football so you may as well get use to it. STA and the like have been doing it for years and all IMG has done is taken it to another level by recruiting across the country. Even inner city schools do it by recruiting kids from each other.


Most power houses are upset because they usually are the only school in the entire county or city. Like ASTCLOUD 11 said, it use to be your hood school against my hood school. But hood schools have two major problems zoning - kids being bused out of the community across town and then you have kids dropping out before HS. Both of these issues rarely affect power house schools because they usually have a feeder system that keeps the schools loaded with talent consistently year after year. The schools that benefited from this advantage didn't say a word until now because small hood schools could never come into their communities and still their kids, if they tried then they would use the zone rules to fight it. Schools like IMG have found a loophole to go into these areas and compete with them for their kids. So now they are fighting the same fight that hood schools faced but the only difference is state HS commissions are making up additional rules on the fly to keep their kids home.

2 things.

1. IMG is not beating Grayson, this Grayson team is better than the one that wrecked Miami Central 4 or 5 years ago.

2. Neither IMG or STA could recruit like they do if they were in GA, and once states start passing rules against playing these schools you will see it stop. It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA doesn't eventually get involved, and that will happen if the wrong HS coaches get upset.

Is this Grayson team better than the 2013 Booker T Washington team that beat the defending GA state champion Norcross Blue Devils 55-0?

This Grayson team is better then the Grayson team that wrecked Miami Central 35 - 3 in 2012 when Miami Central won a state championship and Grayson wasn't good enough to win one. You south Florida guys are quick to forget whenever one of your teams loses to a school in GA.

That Central team had Dalvin Cook, Joe Yearby, Trevor Darling, DaVante Phillips and Calvin Brewton.

Based on your repsonse I will take it that they are not as good as the BTW team that beat Norcross.

I have lived in many places (Miami, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, NorCal and Columbus) and that BTW team is the best high school team that I have seen. I am not incuding private academies that heavily recruit.

That is why I asked you how this current Grayson team compares to BTW.

BTW, I am more of a Atlanta guy (NW Marietta to be precise) than a Miami guy.

I am not sure which team is better. I need to see Grayson play a game first. Just as many kids will sign D1 scholarships as that BTW team. I think the Grayson defense is better than the one BTW had, but I think BTW would have the better offense.

 

[playmaker20]

Grayson is nowhere close to the 2013 BTW team. Idk if there even better than the 2012 Grayson squad.

 

[brock]

Grayson is nowhere close to the 2013 BTW team. Idk if there even better than the 2012 Grayson squad.

They definitely disappointed tonight. Didn't expect them to come out like that against img

 

[sfowler06]

Grayson is young but they won't lose another game this season. Img is like a mini college. They just had more depth and we beat ourselves with the turnovers. Send STA or Booker T to play Grayson next year and those sfla teams will get boatraced.

 

[Astcloud11]

Grayson is young but they won't lose another game this season. Img is like a mini college. They just had more depth and we beat ourselves with the turnovers. Send STA or Booker T to play Grayson next year and those sfla teams will get boatraced.

IMG barely beat CC but solidly beat Grayson...Highly doubt Grayson could beat BTW, **** sure wouldn't blow them out.

Grayson with all that talent loss 26-7...when Carol City played them much tougher and loss 17-7 with a Sophomore QB. But yet you expect me to believe that Grayson could out play or out coach BTW?

In another comparison...

Didn't American Heritage just beat a top GA team, Colquitt? The same AH team that got embarrassed at home by BTW?

I hate to ride BTW more and more, but I'm pretty sure Ice Harris is on a 30+ game win streak as a high school head coach. Saying ANY team in america would "boatrace" them is ridiculous