If Kinchens & JWill had stayed, do we make the CFP?

[Hurricane23]

Both of them…absolutely, would have made a big difference, our safeties hurt us more than anything

 

[bacane]

Williams was a big hitting five star who made plays. Kam was always a ball hawk and had an obvious feel for the game. They were not "bad". Yeah they took too many risks, especially last year, but nobody in their right mind would take this year's safeties over them having seen the season play out. Harris should quit football. Don't even get me started on Meesh. This was the true Achilles heel on this team, and once teams figured out how to exploit it, we were done...because Guidry had no answers.

Ok, last year’s safeties weren’t bad - just undisciplined and not good enough.

 

[JamesQuall]

Gonna search my post history before reacting to this

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

I believe so especially Kinchens

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

If you need an nfl safety to competently run your defense and for the defense to be at least average, then you are the problem.

Bingo

 

[SayWhat]

They were most certainly better than what we had this year.

 

[IbzRlz]

Y

Kam alone would have made a huge difference vs GT & Cuse, who roasted our secondary to no end. This defense was so lost, having him back there would have been a game changer. This doesn't change the fact that Guidry has to go, but the D looked a lot better last year with the better Safeties.

You mean like he did last year when he got beat for the game winning TD with less than 30 seconds to play? Or JW with his 15-yard penalties?

 

[Notsince1985]

Two things can be true. Miami makes the playoffs with them, and Guidry is bad.

 

[Glow]

How many playoff teams have safeties as good as Kinchens and JWill?

 

[JennStrawley’sBabyDaddy]

Then Guidry isn’t the problem.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Yes. Point blank, yes. 100.0%. Next question.

 

[Sabetta]

if so, then Guidry Da Gawd

 

[407cane]

could guidry be the problem? absolutely

but everyone on here was *****ing about the offense last year and we got cam ward and damien Martinez and now we have the best offense in the country

need Mario to go ham in the portal on D

 

[3rd-43]

GUIRY is definitely the problem. Those 2 would have helped but they made plenty of bonehead plays last year.

Love the lack of D.

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[Canes Stan]

Imagine the position we would have been in if Cam announced early his intention to come to Miami. Mario coulda sold the dream

 

[pyhooya]

Love the lack of D.

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With manny it was dIAZ. He had little d(pause) but only against ****** teams

 

[Canesince02]

The reason our defense sucked is because our safeties were so terrible (mostly Harris). Powell should've been our Nickel, not in the back making calls. The thing about it (i've mentioned it in another thread). Harris isn't a freshman, neither is Markeith Williams. Both of them sat behind JW and Kam last year, both of them learned this defense last year, neither was prepared to take over and start in their 2nd year of the defense after looking up to Kam/JW. That's on their position coach, which, falls directly on Guidry's shoulders. Safety led defense, and he can't prepare or develop the younger dudes after a full year under his tutelage?

Or Harris just sucks

 

[Astcloud11]

could guidry be the problem? absolutely

but everyone on here was *****ing about the offense last year and we got cam ward and damien Martinez and now we have the best offense in the country

need Mario to go ham in the portal on D

We were *****ing about a bland running game and TVD not knowing how to read Zone Coverage, throw to the TE, or check down.

 

[CaneThang2020]

Lot of short term memories. Cam cost us last year against GT. They weren’t a great safety combo, either.

Maybe - only because GT seems to have our number here lately. BUT - this teams offense vs last years offense isn’t even marginally comparable.

We WON that game last year with a very mid offense and Mario lost that game - not Chaney, not Cam, not the officials - Mario Luis Cristobal

The answer to this question goes without saying - above average to good Safety play and at worse we finish 11-1 with the ACCCG berth and regardless of outcome we’re in the CFP.

 

[CaneThang2020]

100% YES. Even though James play was an issue.

Better question is what if everyone who left early or transferred out (excluding Brashard) came back?


LT went undrafted. DT is still a position of need.

G was an issue for weeks. Javion Cohen went undrafted and currently sits on the Browns practice squad.

Matt Lee got drafted in the 7th round at #237. He hasn't seen game action. Nothing against Carpenter, but give me Lee.

Jahfari Harvey has 7 sacks at SMU this season.

We needed someone on D who at least could get us lined up correctly. Corey Flagg wasn't the best LB, but he could at least do THAT.


If all those guys had come back, we're probably unbeaten and no lower than the 2 seed.

Flagg is forever a Cane due to his play vs Clemson to save the game….perfect example of having good eyes and DOING YOUR JOB - only reason Flagg left is because we had to offer the MLB job to Kiko as part of our recruitment of Francis. Flagg just wasn’t capable of playing OLB and really neither was Kiko, so a tough call was made.

As for your comment if everyone staying - had that happened we likely do not have enough slots for everyone nor enough NIL money for the guys that joined in 2024 (Barrow-Martinez etc). I understand that certain guys were compensated well but underperformed (Baron) but there’s not one of us that saw Jahfari outperforming Baron in 2024 - hindsight is always 20/20