I don't know what everyone is so worried about...

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Except that the cloud didn't prevent us from recruiting well at other positions. Funny how the cloud only seems to have hovered over DT and QB.


Golden got in late, is there more than a couple of players left from his first class, most of them sucked that's why they're all gone. Should have fired Shannon right after the season's recruiting the year before. Shannon sucked at recruiting too, left us empty. How many players are still here from the second recruiting class? We got a handful of real good players, one great one in Duke, not one other player has shown greatness so far, one very good LBer. No D lineman wanted to come here, without real good ones we lose, doesn't matter if the rest of the team is filled with all Americans. No QB or top players wanted in, it's changing now, the great players are starting to come again. We recruited well at other positions? I say BS on that!

Any of the good ones were only second year players going against other teams seniors, come on now. This years team is better, besides QB and D line is not proven yet. We had no depth at all the past few years, this year it got better. You were expecting to win with bad players, not going to happen. It's changing now, we will get better, next year should be a 10 win season, this season is a tossup which way it goes. Get good QB and D line play and we could win 9 or 10, let's see how it plays out. We should be back within 2 years, ready to compete with anyone, still need some D linemen.

Why did the cloud only affect DT and QB? How have we acquired talent at most of all the other positions? Answer the question instead of going into a rant about a head coach who hasn't been here for over 3 years.

Are you stupid? Who are the great other players we have right now from the first two classes? We got Duke and a few above average players, the rest, very average. I'll be waiting, I answered your question, now who are the great players?
​STOP DEFLECTING AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT ONLY AFFECT DT AND QB?


''Golden got in late, is there more than a couple of players left from his first class, most of them sucked that's why they're all gone. Should have fired Shannon right after the season's recruiting the year before. Shannon sucked at recruiting too, left us empty. How many players are still here from the second recruiting class? We got a handful of real good players, one great one in Duke, not one other player has shown greatness so far, one very good LBer.''

What can't you understand about this statement? I'll walk you through because you haven't learned to read. The first class sucked because they hired Golden late. Where are all the great players in this class? I'll be waiting! Second class we got one great player and a handful of real good players, I loved Lewis he got hurt, I thought he was the best player behind Duke that we recruited. I saw many of these kids play in person, always though Howard was over rated, saw him and Bush play, I thought Bush was better and he got hurt. Flowers very good, saw Hamilton play in Bama, over rated. The rest are below average to average at best and most are probably gone or should have been. Again, most great players didn't even have Miami in their top 3 like they do today.
 
crossover22[]_[];1911322 said:
crossover22[]_[];1911301 said:
Honestly qb recruiting hasn't been that bad to me. DT on the other hand has been bad.

Really? Dewey, Crow, Thompson in 2012 No QB in 2011 What the **** are you talking about?

You're really bringing up 2011? Seriously.

Then he went and got Olsen and kaaya.

That would be the Junior and Senior class which you need older kids to win. You aren't winning anything with freshman and soph's, wake up! You think you put that Fl State QB on Virginia and they win the ACC? I think not!

Is he doing a great job getting QB's now that the mess has lifted, you betcha. Keep the 16 class going and we will be all the way back. The 2001 team was run by a bad coach and still won because of the massive talent on that team. Talent can over come most anything, IMO.
 
crossover22[]_[];1911322 said:
crossover22[]_[];1911301 said:
Honestly qb recruiting hasn't been that bad to me. DT on the other hand has been bad.

Really? Dewey, Crow, Thompson in 2012 No QB in 2011 What the **** are you talking about?

You're really bringing up 2011? Seriously.

Then he went and got Olsen and kaaya.

That would be the Junior and Senior class which you need older kids to win. You aren't winning anything with freshman and soph's, wake up! You think you put that Fl State QB on Virginia and they win the ACC? I think not!

Is he doing a great job getting QB's now that the mess has lifted, you betcha. Keep the 16 class going and we will be all the way back. The 2001 team was run by a bad coach and still won because of the massive talent on that team. Talent can over come most anything, IMO.

I agree on the talent thing but 2011 imo really shouldn't even count.
 
crossover22[]_[];1911381 said:
crossover22[]_[];1911322 said:
crossover22[]_[];1911301 said:
Honestly qb recruiting hasn't been that bad to me. DT on the other hand has been bad.

Really? Dewey, Crow, Thompson in 2012 No QB in 2011 What the **** are you talking about?

You're really bringing up 2011? Seriously.

Then he went and got Olsen and kaaya.

That would be the Junior and Senior class which you need older kids to win. You aren't winning anything with freshman and soph's, wake up! You think you put that Fl State QB on Virginia and they win the ACC? I think not!

Is he doing a great job getting QB's now that the mess has lifted, you betcha. Keep the 16 class going and we will be all the way back. The 2001 team was run by a bad coach and still won because of the massive talent on that team. Talent can over come most anything, IMO.

I agree on the talent thing but 2011 imo really shouldn't even count.


It counts because it's our senior class, is it Golden's fault it's bad, not a chance.
 
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Except that the cloud didn't prevent us from recruiting well at other positions. Funny how the cloud only seems to have hovered over DT and QB.


Golden got in late, is there more than a couple of players left from his first class, most of them sucked that's why they're all gone. Should have fired Shannon right after the season's recruiting the year before. Shannon sucked at recruiting too, left us empty. How many players are still here from the second recruiting class? We got a handful of real good players, one great one in Duke, not one other player has shown greatness so far, one very good LBer. No D lineman wanted to come here, without real good ones we lose, doesn't matter if the rest of the team is filled with all Americans. No QB or top players wanted in, it's changing now, the great players are starting to come again. We recruited well at other positions? I say BS on that!

Any of the good ones were only second year players going against other teams seniors, come on now. This years team is better, besides QB and D line is not proven yet. We had no depth at all the past few years, this year it got better. You were expecting to win with bad players, not going to happen. It's changing now, we will get better, next year should be a 10 win season, this season is a tossup which way it goes. Get good QB and D line play and we could win 9 or 10, let's see how it plays out. We should be back within 2 years, ready to compete with anyone, still need some D linemen.

Why did the cloud only affect DT and QB? How have we acquired talent at most of all the other positions? Answer the question instead of going into a rant about a head coach who hasn't been here for over 3 years.

Are you stupid? Who are the great other players we have right now from the first two classes? We got Duke and a few above average players, the rest, very average. I'll be waiting, I answered your question, now who are the great players?
​STOP DEFLECTING AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT ONLY AFFECT DT AND QB?

So I guess you get it now that it wasn't just QB's and D tackles, Right? Go back and look at the classes and who is still here.
 
Golden got in late, is there more than a couple of players left from his first class, most of them sucked that's why they're all gone. Should have fired Shannon right after the season's recruiting the year before. Shannon sucked at recruiting too, left us empty. How many players are still here from the second recruiting class? We got a handful of real good players, one great one in Duke, not one other player has shown greatness so far, one very good LBer. No D lineman wanted to come here, without real good ones we lose, doesn't matter if the rest of the team is filled with all Americans. No QB or top players wanted in, it's changing now, the great players are starting to come again. We recruited well at other positions? I say BS on that!

Any of the good ones were only second year players going against other teams seniors, come on now. This years team is better, besides QB and D line is not proven yet. We had no depth at all the past few years, this year it got better. You were expecting to win with bad players, not going to happen. It's changing now, we will get better, next year should be a 10 win season, this season is a tossup which way it goes. Get good QB and D line play and we could win 9 or 10, let's see how it plays out. We should be back within 2 years, ready to compete with anyone, still need some D linemen.

Why did the cloud only affect DT and QB? How have we acquired talent at most of all the other positions? Answer the question instead of going into a rant about a head coach who hasn't been here for over 3 years.

Are you stupid? Who are the great other players we have right now from the first two classes? We got Duke and a few above average players, the rest, very average. I'll be waiting, I answered your question, now who are the great players?
​STOP DEFLECTING AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT ONLY AFFECT DT AND QB?

So I guess you get it now that it wasn't just QB's and D tackles, Right? Go back and look at the classes and who is still here.
Your gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me our DT recruiting hasnt been pure ****?
 
Our D wasn't good last year?? You don't say. We all had no idea! We didn't watch the games and read it about it EVERY SINGLE DAY since the season ended right? Jesus, can we at least get through our FIRST game of the season before declaring this team and season a lost cause. I swear I really think some of you want us to fail just to further your agenda. Sad really.
 
Why did the cloud only affect DT and QB? How have we acquired talent at most of all the other positions? Answer the question instead of going into a rant about a head coach who hasn't been here for over 3 years.

Are you stupid? Who are the great other players we have right now from the first two classes? We got Duke and a few above average players, the rest, very average. I'll be waiting, I answered your question, now who are the great players?
​STOP DEFLECTING AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY DID IT ONLY AFFECT DT AND QB?

So I guess you get it now that it wasn't just QB's and D tackles, Right? Go back and look at the classes and who is still here.
Your gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me our DT recruiting hasnt been pure ****?

Obvious you didn't finish grade school, you can't read. Where did I say that? I said it wasn't just QB's and D tackles who didn't want to come. Take your time, ask your mom to help you. ****
 
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The only thing Golden has his hands on is a big gulp. If you think I'm lying, look at past videos of him.
 
crossover22[]_[];1911301 said:
Honestly qb recruiting hasn't been that bad to me. DT on the other hand has been bad.

QB recruiting has been pretty good considering the circumstances.
Sorry but anyone expecting blue chip QBs to be lining up to play QB for a program with an uncertain future isn't really bright.
The fact that he was able to get a 4 star kid in Olsen and followed it up with Kayaa tells me all I need to know.

As for DT, a few reasons affected DT recruiting.. One being that the local DT talent pool has been down. Tell me which local DT recruit has gone on to make an impact wherever they ended up signing?
As for the misses, out of state kids like Goldman got spooked by the threat of sanctions. For as much as you all want to play down the affect the uncertain nature of the times it was real.
 
Whats boarcane gonna say after we go 7-4 this yr?


Are you expecting a NC with no starting QB? Not one good QB would come the first few years because of potential sanctions, so you expecting miracles. Just a handful of very good players came in general, ya think your expectations are a bit too high? lol Dope Never seen so many **** dumb asses on one site. The D sucked because we had bad players, pretty easy to see, the D line still is average at best.
Except that the cloud didn't prevent us from recruiting well at other positions. Funny how the cloud only seems to have hovered over DT and QB.

You see it was really partly cloudy with a chance of sunshine when we all want a hurricane.
 
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Ya'll missed the thread. Al's going to be more "hands on."

Problems are solved.

(Now there's no way in **** anyone can suggest I said anything negative here.)
 
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